Game Police, Is this their headquarters? Options

[James McMurray]

Maybe I'm just reading too much into a few recent threads, but it seems to me like there are a lot of game police around here, ready to attack if you try to introduce something that doesn't fit their view of what Shadowrun Should Be.

I may not want unkillable devil rats in my game, but I'm amused at how many people have to reply to a thread to say they think they're rubbish. As if your opinion of what that person's game is like has any actual bearing. All that matters is if the players and GM are having fun.

I personally find canon SR's treatment of angels as very poorly done. Yes, you avoid the whole problem inherent in bringing religion into a game, but there are so many facets of a gaming world that can be explored when religion is introduced.

Yes, an angel is just the way a spirit manifests when called by a highly religious conjuror. But try telling that the Pope John 86th, Shaman of Christ. You'll find your game overrun by religion in a heartbeat.

Is it just me, or have few people around here heard the phrase "live and let live"?

[Tanka]

We're opinionated peoples. We voice said opinions.

Just because it's good for one person doesn't mean it's good for everyone else.

Also; if we didn't voice our opinions, the rule debates that go on here would end and the forum would just wither away.

When you join a place like this, you expect others to post their opinions. Especially on any houserules or homebrewed items you post.

[James McMurray]

Don't get me wrong, I'm well versed in the ways of opinionated forums and how every Tom, Dick, and Jane seems to think that something being an opinion gives it the right to be rude. I'm just musing on how often it seems to happen around here.

Note: This is not a personal attack on anyone. I would have to go hunting to find any screen names to tie rude comments to.

However, I would like to submit that if you (the general you, not tanka specifically) feel this is a personal attack, perhaps its because you know your responses to be ruder than they should be?

[fistandantilus4....]

YOU'RE WRONG!

JK

I know what you mean. The thing is, DS is basically a true democracy, wether or not you have anything to say, you can say it. That's part of the fun. And yes, there's people that just want to rant. It's gonna happen. Not defending it, honest. I think there should be things that you can't kill, I think that religion is so huge in RL, it would have to effect life in SR. The developers don't want to touch it, and for good reason. And there are people that prefer it all "canon".
Good with the bad omae, it's all just life.
have fun!

[James McMurray]

Of course I'm having fun. I woulnd't have made the post if it wasn't intended to enhance my amusement somehow. ;)

[Herald of Verjig...]

Actually, to be game police, there'd have to be some official or legal backing by Wizkids, Fanpro, or a Microsoft lawyer who can argue how the objectionable content is defaming their rights to theoretically produce a Shadowrun based PC game.

This is more the game lynch mob.

[Tanka]

[Kagetenshi]

It isn't even that. That'd involve us actually doing something to the people involved. This is the game crotchety old men on the bench outside the store.

In the end, to actually have a discussion there has to be either a pure factual discussion ("How does X word" "Y" "Where is that" "Page Z"; you can see how this would make for short and dull threads) or opinions have to get into the mix. The idea to not say anything at all if you don't have something nice to say is perhaps the most venomous of all. Someone comes up with a bad idea (in our opinions), we call them on it. That doesn't mean we force them to stop using it.

~J

[Ancient History]

I'm close to the crotchety old men, but even I admit I'm wrong at times.

[toturi]

Non-Canon? Houserule? *gulp* *gasp* :eek: Heretic! Infidel!

Jihad!

Join the Warriors for Shadowrun Orthodoxy. Call 1800-SRJIHAD now! First 30 callers will get a complementary Dikoted Ares Viper Slivergun Ally Spirit that you can have sex with. :D

[fistandantilus4....]

So..... does that mean there won't be any lynchings?



Damn,got out of bed for nothin'

[Austere Emancipa...]

[Tanka]

You mean CLWFBWs don't pack PACs? :shock:

[James McMurray]

I nominate toturi for the first lynching! I tried calling his SR Jihad hotline but it wasn't a real phone number! On the off chance he misstyped I also checked 1-800-SR-JYHAD. It wasn't active either.

BURN HIM!!!!!

[Grinder]

We should beat him to death with solid BBBs! :D

[Adam]

I think that, when possible, quoting page numbers is a great way to reduce arguments and redundancy. Don't wait for someone to go "Where did you read that?" but tell them where, right off the bat.

Sure, there are times when the next post will be "Ah, but on p. xx of SomeOtherbook, it contradicts what you've said." -- but establishing a baseline of where the information is coming from is a good thing, especially with the number of rulebooks for SR and the number of special case rules that end up in other books.

I also think that the important thing is, early in a thread, remember what the original poster is asking -- if you're not answering that in some relatively direct way, it might be best to save your time.

[This is not directed at anyone in particular, and is not some sort of administration post.]

[toturi]

Forgive them... for they know not what they do.

See? You do not have the true makings of a SR Jihadist, a true Jihadist would done more legwork before calling that number! Repent and sin no more! In the name of the 1st Ed, 2nd Ed and 3rd Ed BBBs, and all the Rules Expansions, Amen.

[In case anyone thought I was serious] :rollin:

[James McMurray]

[Ed Simons]

[Guest_Crimsondude 2.0_*]

[Kanada Ten]

[FrostyNSO]

Hey cool,

Does this mean that everyone at Dumpshock gets to be POST certified???

pun intended, hahaha I kill me. :|

[kevyn668]

[Solstice]

I would say we are more like the "SR witch hunters". Besides I don't know what you expect from a bunch of semi-intelligent, very saucy SR fanatics. Each and every one of us, including myself has a very specific view of what SR is to us and how it should be protrayed. Of course we will never pass up the chance to impress upon the world that our vision is the correct vision and laugh at your silly attempts at "fixing" and "adding" and other such nonsense.

[James McMurray]