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Financial Adept  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 76 Joined: 4-October 03 From: Western NY Member No.: 5,682  |
That *is* the same basic principle, both regardless of how..are projecting an image to reflect off the (in SR's case, ruthenium) layer to give the illusion of invisability, flexible LEDs are more efficent for sure, but they both work in the same way.
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Feb 14 2005, 04:56 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
They don't work in the same way. They don't even provide the same end result.
Ruths offer high concealability on whatever they're covering and can be moved with little-to-no effect (depending on speed and number of cameras on the suit). The suit we have today is stationary only, requires a projector system and is a reflective material -- not a vision-modifying material. |
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Feb 14 2005, 05:08 PM
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Financial Adept Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 76 Joined: 4-October 03 From: Western NY Member No.: 5,682 |
Again..they both work in the same way..I already previously stated that the SR version is obviously more advanced (because unlike current days, it has the projectors built *into* the cloth). But its *still* the same basic principles of operation. You have a reflective surface, you project an image onto that surface to create an illusion. The SR one works in the same way, only with the benefit of super-computer power level cameras and a flexible LED surface with enough processing power to be able to adjust the projected image in real time. edited in: What is a "vision modifying" material? both the RL ruthenium and the SR description say its a "reflective" material. |
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Feb 14 2005, 05:12 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
When I last read it, it changes itself via electronic signals. When off, it looks like a regular pair of gray cloth.
I read it as, literally, cloth that changes colors depending on the electronic signal being sent. Not as a reflective material. |
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Feb 14 2005, 06:18 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,759 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
Some mix including Ruthenium does have optical properties, but rather the opposite: they absorb light in all the visible spectrum (so not at all reflective, but the opposite). They're studied for solar energy appliances.
As for displaying images on clothing without any projector, it's bulky, not very flexible and has a low-resolution (which in turn prevents any attempt of 3d illusion), but the best we have nowadays must be those: http://ft-phototheque.fullsix.com/jlbweb/i...19/IMG15919.JPG http://ft-phototheque.fullsix.com/jlbweb/i...25/IMG15925.JPG http://ft-phototheque.fullsix.com/jlbweb/i...30/IMG15930.JPG If you had camera to pick up the environment tones, you should get something. |
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Feb 14 2005, 06:56 PM
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Financial Adept Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 76 Joined: 4-October 03 From: Western NY Member No.: 5,682 |
Yes..but to create an illusion you need to reflect light, if the SR version of the material was the same, it wouldn't have the invisability properities, but would instead be very visible(since light concentrates on the point). (i.e. well thats neat to know, i don't believe its related to the subject at hand, as you say, it has the opposite effect ;>). Sadly SR is very(needfully) vague on the actual composition of the material. |
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