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post Apr 19 2005, 10:32 AM
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The metric system is the tool of the devil!
My car gets 40 rods to teh hog's head and that's the way I likes it.

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post Apr 19 2005, 01:51 PM
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Just a quick nerd note.
40 rods to the Hogshead would equate to roughly 0.001984127 MPG

(Rod is 16.5 feet, Hogshead is 63 gallons)

My car, at roughly 29 MPG
gets around 584640 RPH (Rods per Hogshead)
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post Apr 22 2005, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE (Fortune)
Haven't you heard the expression 'size doesn't matter'?

Yea, there was a guy who claime that. But his girlfriend disagreed :-)


Now back to the MKS-System. It is actually very simple. Basics are Meters, Kilograms and seconds.


Kilo = x 1000 so a Kilo Meter is 1000x1 Meter
Dezi = / 10 so a Dezi Meter is 1Meter / 10
Centi = / 100 so a Centi Meter is 1Meter / 100

1 Liter is 1000cm^3 (1000 Quibic-Centimenter) and 1 Liter of Water = 1 Kilo Gramm (1000 gram)
1 metric ton = 1000kg

The system is actually quite nice and straight forward. Makes scientific stuff easy since everything is based on MKS be it electrical resistance, be it burn values of food.

Now lets confuse the stuff:

+ The public still uses old measurements like the pound (1/2 kg = 500grams)

+ The public still works with kilokalories instead of kilojoule (and drops the kilo)

+ In-House Pipes still have an inch measurement but are right-fastening. Outdoor pipes are metric


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post Apr 27 2005, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE (Fortune)
QUOTE (LordFarlander @ Mar 29 2005, 12:13 PM)
... and remember, inches has FRACTIONS, not decimals...


Where did you get this from?

Inches are divided up into Sixteenths of an Inch rather than 'milliinches' or whatever they would be called :nuyen:
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post Apr 27 2005, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE (Nikoli)
My car, at roughly 29 MPG
gets around 584640 RPH (Rods per Hogshead)

Really, that's a little clunky there. I'd go with 36 HKRPH, where HK is Hexakilowhatever (16,000). Sure, the math is a little ungainly, but a lot fewer decimal places and none of that damn liberal metric trash.
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post Apr 27 2005, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE (Bullet Raven)
Inches are divided up into Sixteenths of an Inch rather than 'milliinches' or whatever they would be called

I never said anything about milli-inches. I do contend that inches can be stated as a decimal though, and not just as a fraction. 1.5 inches is as valid a way of describing a specific measurement as 1 1/2 inches.
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post Apr 27 2005, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE (Fortune)
QUOTE (Bullet Raven @ Apr 28 2005, 12:52 AM)
Inches are divided up into Sixteenths of an Inch rather than 'milliinches' or whatever they would be called

I never said anything about milli-inches. I do contend that inches can be stated as a decimal though, and not just as a fraction. 1.5 inches is as valid a way of describing a specific measurement as 1 1/2 inches.

I didn't try to imply that you did :) It was a vague guess at what we could call the unit which makes up an inch.

and of course, 1.5 inches is correct, but check out most rulers; the inch is divided by fractions, the hint is in the fact that you used a decimal point, what with it not being decimal and all. :)
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post Apr 27 2005, 10:12 PM
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Metrics. Simple.
Imperial. Not simple.

The only real reason the US doesn't use the metric system is that 98% of the population is too lazy to get up and re-learn how far they have to get off of their fat asses to have to drive to work. Or McDonalds. Or the Fridge. Or anywhere. Let's face it, we just don't want to get off of out fat asses.

Food should come to us. The whole 32.4 decameter long trip.

(figure that one out!) :please:

I don't think the brush you're using to paint an entire country with is big enough.
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post Apr 28 2005, 12:18 AM
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you sound suspiciously like you're not bashing the US, crimson.
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post Apr 28 2005, 03:08 AM
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post May 5 2005, 03:03 PM
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Actually, I'm sure that you will see the US switching to metric. It's just going to take a few people of vision...

i.e:

A couple of corporate CEOs who realize that they can make a bundle on
a) replacing all of our road signs at taxpayer expense
b) creating all of the "Your New Metric System" Propaganda/Teaching material (at taxpayer expense of course)
c) fleecing consumers by charging the same $1.00 for a 500ml drink (the current 20 fl. oz drink is something like 540ml I think )

Once these visionary people understand this concept they will get some brilliant corrupt, err... crusading politicians to point out that the lack of the metric system has in fact been the reason that all of the US jobs being outsourced to India and other places.

Once Americans truly understand that learning the metric system is our patriotic duty so that we can show up all of those darned furriners, we will rise up and go the extra mile.... er... kilometer.

And if that doesn't work they'll just announce that the French really don't want us to use the metric system....

So, uhm, was that cynical enough for everyone?

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post May 5 2005, 03:06 PM
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Sad thing is, they tried most of that the first go around. You still see a few road signs in both Km and M, at least here in Georgia. There used to be a lot of propaganda in the 70's about the Metric system, it just never caught on.

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post May 5 2005, 03:47 PM
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I heard (from my father-in-law, so it is probably suspect) that one reason the U.S. was resistant to the metric system in the 60's and 70's was the Cold War. Some in the government thought that if the Soviet Union invaded, it would confuse the foot soldiers if our road signs and directions were in Standard Units instead of Metric.

-Russian paratroopers in an Illinois corn field-
"Where is Chicago?"
"200 km North-East."
"Wait, that sign says 200 em - eye, not kilometers."
"What's an em-eye?"
"Hell if I know"
"We'll just wait for our Lieutenant to tell us where to go."
"Hey, why are those peasants pointing guns at us?"
"What are you talking about? Those aren't guns. Civilians can't own..."
BLAM
"Ivan?"
BLAM

Thus the US wins the Cold War.
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post May 6 2005, 09:05 AM
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Thus the US wins the Cold War.

That's without doubt the best war strategy I've ever seen.
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post May 6 2005, 03:55 PM
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haha i'm still laughing at that

What the hell's an M-I?!
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post May 6 2005, 08:00 PM
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I'm not positive, but I believe that the signs in Georgia that are in both miles and kilometers are left over from the Olympics in Atlanta.

There's actually one as far north as Tennessee since there were some events held up in Bristol.

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post May 6 2005, 08:49 PM
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Oh yeah. Problem is, they weren't very complete on the task. A lot of stuff is still in SAE.
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post May 6 2005, 10:48 PM
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Really, I'm ambivilant on the issue. I grok Standard and Metric so I can live with both. I think the schools around here (Detroit) might stress Metrics alittle more because of all the back and forth with Windsor. We have the busyiest border crossing with Canada.
With the US and Canada forming the UCAS, I find it totally believable that the new country would go over to Metric.
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post May 6 2005, 11:11 PM
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Yes, we should acquiesce to the unit of measurement used by a country with 10% of our population. Riiight.
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post May 6 2005, 11:30 PM
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I'm coming from the point of view that most Americans recieve education in Metrics in the 4th-10th grades, more if they do college prep science. How much instruction do Canadians get in Standard Measurment Units? Probably not that much. I could be wrong, as I said, I think we may have got more Metrics in the Detroit area.
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post May 7 2005, 04:06 AM
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I'm not denying that we had to learn metrics, specifically for HS chemistry and physics, but hubris outweighs all logic and common sense.
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post May 7 2005, 04:12 AM
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QUOTE (Austere Emancipator)
That's without doubt the best war strategy I've ever seen.

you dare belittle the sacrifices made by such heroes as Jennifer Grey and Charlie Sheen? blasphemer !!
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post May 7 2005, 04:20 AM
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post May 7 2005, 01:24 PM
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I'm not denying that we had to learn metrics, specifically for HS chemistry and physics, but hubris outweighs all logic and common sense.

oh, now that you put it that way, yeah frell the metric system. I like inscrutable units of measurement.

I'm not the only one, nor is it limited to Americans.
Here and here.
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post May 8 2005, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE (Pthgar)
QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0 @ May 7 2005, 12:06 AM)
I'm not denying that we had to learn metrics, specifically for HS chemistry and physics, but hubris outweighs all logic and common sense.

oh, now that you put it that way, yeah frell the metric system. I like inscrutable units of measurement.

I'm not the only one, nor is it limited to Americans.
Here and here.

Nooo!!! at least use a SHADOWRUN swearword!

frell.......... :S
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