 Shamons, efects on totems? |
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  Feb 15 2005, 07:40 PM
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It's for winners  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 523 Joined: 8-February 05 From: Wiltshire with da shooty stuff Member No.: 7,067  |
:rotfl:
I don't know if i am looking too much into this but, i have a player who is playing a shaman with a totem of a snake....... simple but let me put this to your view, if a snake which as you all know is a reptile and say go's to alaska this would have some affect on it as they need heat to function. i know the totem is the spirt and not the living thing ( well depends on how you look on it but..) surely it would have aversion to cold? i cant see anything anywhere that clarifies this. it's kind of important as there next run will take them to climates a colder and i want to know if the character would take penalties? any surgestions would be great! thanks torz x |
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Feb 15 2005, 07:43 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I'd say suggest to the player the possibility of playing up being irritable, sluggish, tired, and heat-seeking, and not actually add any game effects.
~J |
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Feb 15 2005, 07:47 PM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
Uh, humans also need heat to survive. So if the shaman goes out butt naked in the cold, his totem will be pleased to see him adequately uphold Snake by dying frozen. And if the shaman gets the crazy idea of wearing a coat, Snake will also be pleased to see that he upholds the proper ideals by staying warm. ;)
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Feb 15 2005, 07:50 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
*Astrally Projects in a snowy landscape* Hello?
*A watcher vaguely in the form of a snake slithers up* I'm sorry, your totem cannot take your request as dialed. She is currently vacationing in Fiji. Would you like to leave a message? |
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Feb 15 2005, 07:52 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Humans don't need heat, they generate their own. What they need is to not lose heat too quickly :) (Or too slowly, for that matter) ~J |
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Feb 15 2005, 07:55 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 230 Joined: 3-December 04 Member No.: 6,863 |
Ahhh, the benefit to being a mamal
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Feb 15 2005, 07:55 PM
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It's for winners Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 523 Joined: 8-February 05 From: Wiltshire with da shooty stuff Member No.: 7,067 |
:S
My point exactly i dident meen in the actual but just wanted to know the effects if any on the magic ability! torz x |
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Feb 15 2005, 08:05 PM
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Guests |
I'd also suggest that along with the above the shaman should not stop bitching the entire time about how cold it is, even moreso than what would usually be expected. Kind of like how loudly and frequently your Seattle runners would complain about walking around Phoenix in October when it was 97 degrees before noon. |
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Feb 15 2005, 08:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 227 Joined: 18-August 03 Member No.: 5,513 |
There are actually snakes in Alaska (southern regions obviously). I doubt they do much complaining though... :D
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Feb 15 2005, 08:12 PM
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Guests |
Indeed.
There's also a snow snake in PAoNA (pp.150-51) with a range that extends, from what I can tell looking at the map, past the Arctic Circle. |
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Feb 15 2005, 08:39 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,144 Joined: 22-September 04 Member No.: 6,690 |
No effects on magic. Checking the description for Cobra, Python, and Snake, weather has no effect on the shaman. |
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Feb 15 2005, 08:41 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,011 Joined: 15-February 05 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 7,087 |
I thought Jamaican Shamans were houngan, not shamons?
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Feb 15 2005, 08:43 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,512 Joined: 16-August 03 From: Northampton Member No.: 5,499 |
I'd say you've been playing to much Metal Gear Solid, and have the Conversation Between Vulcan Raven and Snake stuck in your head. |
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Feb 15 2005, 08:59 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,144 Joined: 22-September 04 Member No.: 6,690 |
They're hougan if they're following the loa instead of a traditional totem. |
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Feb 15 2005, 09:20 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,011 Joined: 15-February 05 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 7,087 |
Hmm. I'm affraid you didn't get it, mon. :D (Sorry, been reading Futurama comics) |
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Feb 15 2005, 09:31 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Ja, mon. :grinbig: |
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 Feb 15 2005, 09:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,722 |
If the PC isn't playing his Totem he looses his Totem bonuses and if it persists his Magic.
A Snake/Reptile Shaman in cold wheather should suffer a +2 Modifier to all Active Actions and +4 for things like Percetion Rolls, B/R, etc... Long Action Skills. Cheers QM |
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Feb 15 2005, 09:38 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Why penalize for being cold? Nowhere in canon does it say to do that. Snake is quizzical by nature. It needs to know every secret, whilst remaining secretive. |
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Feb 15 2005, 09:40 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
Shamons?
They channel the spirit of Michael Jackson? |
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Feb 15 2005, 09:41 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,722 |
"IF" the PC isn't Role Playing his Totem. Sorry I wasn't more clear. QM |
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Feb 16 2005, 02:33 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
In Shadowrun, following a Totem is, in effect, following an ideal or set of ideals. It isn't emulating a particular creature's habits. Snake is idealized as an inquisitive healer. There should be no reason to penalize the character for any type of environmental conditions unless those conditions are an integral part of the idealized Totem.
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Feb 16 2005, 02:36 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
:rotfl: I'd vote for the shaman being captian grumpy pants. IRL, though, I bitch and moan constantly during winter. Maybe I have SAD... |
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Feb 16 2005, 02:38 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,129 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 4,712 |
Further... IF he isn't roleplaying his totem, he loses potential karma. He doesn't suffer target mods.
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Feb 16 2005, 03:00 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
He loses Magical power as well. A Totem is the source of one's magic and can revoke that power if one strays from the path. |
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Feb 16 2005, 03:09 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 665 Joined: 20-November 03 Member No.: 5,834 |
I agree with Fortune. If Totems were really that closely related to the listed creature's nature why is Snake a healer in the first place? Exactly how many snakes have you seen with healing powers? None. Same with Bears.
Snake is probably a healing totem just because the traditional symbol of medicine in the US has a snake on it, symbolic of Moses' Copper Serpent in the bible. |
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