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Lindt View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 12:29 AM Post #51
Man In The Machine Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105	Allow me to say. Wow. That car will out run every helio in the book, as well as the slower T-birds... CRAZY! Here is a tentative PC [ Spoiler ] Maxwell Iverian ‘Paradise’ Str 5 Qui 6 Bod 3 Int 6 Wil 4 Cha 4 Reaction 6 Init 1d6+6 Essence 2.95 Bio Index 5.95 Combat Pool 8 Rigged Initiative 3d6+10 Control Pool 10 Home Ground: I-90 Vindictive Car 6 Car B/R 6 Bike 5 Bike B/R 3 Electronics 5 Computer 3 Shotgun 3 Unarmed 3 Negotiation (Bargain) 2/4 Etiquette (Street) 3/5 Fences 5 Lone Star Reaction Times 3 Seattle Junkyards 2 Gang Turf 4 Gang ID 4 Chop Shops 4 Scrounging 3 Security Systems (Automotive) 3/5 Combat Biking 2 English (City Speak) 5/7 Japanese 3 Cyber: VCR 2 (A) Cyber Replacement Eyes +Low light +Flare Comp +Image Link Datajack 2 slot Chipjack Gear: [ Spoiler ] Armor Vest w/ Plates Victory Heavy Jumpsuit +Plastic Restraint Melter (4) Fine Clothing Real Leather Pants Defiance T-250 +Custom Chrome+Carbon Fiber Finish +20 Loose Slugs +20 Loose Shells +10 Stun Shells Steyr TMP +Laser Sight +3 (30) Rd Clips ¥8000 CASH Automotive Shop Electronics Shop Computer Shop Vehicle Kit Electronics Kit Computer Kit General Kit 8 Month Mid lifestyle (home) 10 months low lifestyle (garage) Contacts: L1 Twitch (fixer) L1 Big Jim (Bouncer for ___ L1 Lt. Wickens (lone star desk cop) L1 Saffron (Engine builder) L2 Siege (Mechanic) L2 Alberta (Go ganger) Suzuki Aurora (Stock) R3r 159 ¥18,100 Sioux Mercury Grand Prix V [ Spoiler ] (aka LS modified americar) (Lightly Modified) ¥38,500 R3r 166 + Rigger Adaptation (-1 cf -10kg) ¥2,800 + Hydraulics System ¥8,000 Ford Survivor [ Spoiler ] (AKA GW Nomad) (Lightly modified) ¥34,500 R3r 166 Body 4 CF 17 Handling 3/3 Armor 0 Autonav 2 Sensor 0 Seating 2+1b Load 1240 Speed 100 Acceleration 11 Sig 2 Fuel Code 90L Economy 8.7 km/l Optimal Range 783km Performance Tow Package (+ 2 Accel +400kg) ¥5,175 Rigger Adaptation (-1 cf -10kg) ¥2,800 Winch (-1cf -10kg) ¥1,000 Roll Cage ¥2,000 Heavy Axel Car Trailer [ Spoiler ] ¥15,000 (esk, as there are no trailers in any book anywhere) Body 3 CF 400 Load 1200 Sig 4 ‘Maxwell’s Demon’ Mitsubishi Shadow [ Spoiler ] (AKA Saab Dynamit 778 TI) (Heavily modified) R3 168 ¥92,000 R3r Body 3 CF 4 Handling 2/8 Armor 0 Autonav 3 Sensor 1 Seating 2+1b Load 150 Speed 250 Acceleration 15 Sig 1 Fuel Code 150L Economy 5.4 km/l Optimal Range 810km Options: APPS Roll Cage Stage 2 Turbocharger Modifications: Remove Rear Bench Seat (+6cf +150kg) ¥750 Rigger Adaptation (-1 cf -10kg) ¥2,800 After Market Engine Replacement (+4 acc +60 speed) ¥18,400 Stage 3 NoX Kit (-2 cf –15kg) ¥10,500 Race Modified Suspension (-2/0 hand) ¥18,400 Radar Evasion Kit (ECM 2) (-2 cf -10kg) ¥20,000 Photovoltaic Chameleon Paint Job ¥5,000 Other internal & external visual and audio modifications ¥10,000 ¥4,935 left (minus 80k reserved for free cash)

Kiedo View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 05:35 AM Post #52
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 768 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Houston, Texas CAS Member No.: 6,907	Nikoli and everyone else who asked: the type of racing will be drag racing, and some a to b races. An on the spot vehicle shop could be an interesting twist... Slipshade: background recieve, making two official runners, and one unofficial Aes: Can you point me to the part of rigger 3, where it talks about sports cars with jet turbines, I couldn't find it. but aside from that it looks pretty clean, and fast. lindt:that looks good, I would like to see a background in my inbox so I can get to know him better Everyone: You all will be working as a street racing team(or gang if you prefer), so unless you want to race one another you won't have to. sorry I forgot to mention that sooner. But that is subject to change if you guys don't want to be. Runner Count In for sure Sebastian St. John(cybered rigger) - sandoval smith johnny the bull (ex go ganger bull shaman)- slipshade pending Meava Leclerc (former professional Le Mans driver)- Aes (pending recipt of full gear, else in for sure) Maxwell Iverian(street racer with something to prove?) - Lindt (pending recpt of background/bio) don't worry if you don't get in as a PC, I've got up to two NPCs who could use a three dimensional personality. Hell if I get enough PC's, and everyone is okay with it, there might be two rival teams: ). :D

Nikoli View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 06:21 AM Post #53
Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033	Rough Bio for Luis Clempt bear with me here as by brain is doing a wonderful impression of jello at the moment: Luis served in the UCAS military, nothing exemplary but no slouch either. As part of a special forces unit, he was enhanced with SOTA (at the time) cyber to enhance his natural proclivities and trained as a designated marksman for his team. He's a good shot with an Assault rifle and gets by with a few others. He has some medical training as well as knowing his way around a wrench. On the track, he seems the quiet unassuming fellow acting as the assistant mechanic and driving a big truck, carrying the "johnny on the spot" vehicle shop for inthe field tune ups (as well as a gunsmith shop). What most folks see is his predator tucked un a shoulder carry, his typical loadout being gel rounds. What folks don't know is he acts as a staple in the team security on track, with some milspec gear he managed to aquire after cycling out and getting bored of the normal civilian life rather fast. While he no longer has "Rochelle" his new rifle is almost as good, "Dani" doesn't have range, but she's got heart (and a grenade launcher).

Fresno Bob View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 06:46 AM Post #54
Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,156 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Fresno, CalFree Member No.: 4,252	My character is done, and will be submitted in a bit.

Kiedo View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 07:14 AM Post #55
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 768 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Houston, Texas CAS Member No.: 6,907	Nikoli:Sound good, I'll add you to my tentative list, and as soon as you get you sheet and full bio sent in, I'll add it to the official list. Just to help you decide on what type of b/r skills to get, it looks like I've got one car, one bike, and as soon as Aes decides on what type of car he wants, I think he's leaning towards, a "batmobile", I'll have a clearer indication of what's what. Also every PC I've got has at least a b/r skill of 3 in the vehicle they've got, but most have a 4. Good luck with your security/mechanic/sharp shooter. I hope to see him in my inbox soon

Fresno Bob View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 07:25 AM Post #56
Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,156 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Fresno, CalFree Member No.: 4,252	Okay, my character is sent.

Kiedo View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 09:30 AM Post #57
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 768 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Houston, Texas CAS Member No.: 6,907	Voorhees: for now I'm putting him on the pending list. I'd like a little more background if you will. Don't get me wrong what you sent me is good but I'd like to have more to read. Everyone: as it stand right now I have recieved a total of five characters, two are still in need of biographical information, I've seen about ten people express intrest in this run, so there are two options. One I can expand the run to incorporate two rival teams (good guys vs. bad guys), or I can narrow it down to five(if all ten people submit a character), and the two closest runners up can have the NPC slots. I am indifferent its no more difficult on this side of the table to go either way so, I will leave it up to you all. Majority Rules

Aes

Feb 26 2005, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE (Kiedo @ Feb 26 2005, 12:35 AM)

Aes: Can you point me to the part of rigger 3, where it talks about sports cars with jet turbines, I couldn't find it. but aside from that it looks pretty clean, and fast.

Page 199 - power plant listing. Shows stats for APC (tracked), APC (wheeled), Caterpillar (Light/Med/Heavy/Mini), Sports Cars and Transport (Heavy) among ground vehicles. I assumed that meant jet turbine could be affixed to a sports car but not a sedan.

Load (start/max): 40/260
Speed (start/max): 240/400
Acceleration (start/max): 18/32
Sig: 2
Fuel: 60
Economy (start/max): 6/10
Design pts: 90

With drive-by-wire and smart materials counting towards raising the max limits in the final design.

[Edit]

Just finished up the last details in NSRCG. The final character sheet should be on its way to you within the hour. Then I'll write up a blurb on the little woman for everyone else.

Kiedo View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 12:15 PM Post #59
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 768 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Houston, Texas CAS Member No.: 6,907	That really wierd, I'm looking in my copy of rigger 3, on page 199, and as far as cars go the only things in mine are: APC, Tracked APC, Wheeled Caterpillar, Heavy Caterpillar, light Caterpillar, Medium Caterpillar, Miniature Transport, Heavy I'm going to scan and email you a pdf of that little part just so you don't think I'm being a jerk or am stupid or something. Can anyone else who's got rigger 3 please check thier book and make sure mine isn't just a printing error or something.

Aes View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 12:25 PM Post #60
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 13-January 05 From: Forgot where his meat body was Member No.: 6,971	The copy I'm looking at is Rigger 3 Revised. Perhaps that's one of the differences. I'd like to echo Kiedos request -- Anyone with greater rules-fu than I know wether or not it's within the rules to make a jet turbine driven sports car?

Kiedo View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 12:25 PM Post #61
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 768 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Houston, Texas CAS Member No.: 6,907	Ha it's under diesel in mine those same exact numbers. That's wierd that a diesel car is significantly faster than a gasoline one. I understand how a jet engine would but a diesel? Eh I did see a Ford F-150 FX4 diesel beat an ss camero that ran mid 11's but the diesel had MAJOR turbo work done. so the car is fine either way you look at it cause what ever you want to call it, diesel in mine or jet turbine in yours, there are numbers for it that I can see with my own eyes. Go ahead and give it to Meava.

Aes View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 12:38 PM Post #62
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 13-January 05 From: Forgot where his meat body was Member No.: 6,971	Ah. Maybe it's the secret ninja diesel recepie ;) For everyone else, here's what I've got. Stripped away all the derived stats, calculations and things only omniscient people (GMs) would know without picking her body and brain apart. [ Spoiler ] Maeva LeClerc: Appearence: ---------------- Maeva stands a little short of two meters tall, with a lithe elven frame. She looks to be in her mid-to-late twenties, with striking features that wouldn't look out of place on a Sim Starlet in Karl Kombatmage and a mischievous smile that could sell toothpaste by the truckload. She's obviously one of the Night Ones - a mostly european elven metatype. Her fur is dark blue with a purple tint to it. Her hair - usually worn lose and long is the same color, though slightly brighter and with silvery streaks running thorugh it. Her cybernetic eyes are pure blue, with no iris or pupils and glow. The glow seems to vary depending on her mood, but has been as low as none at all and as intense as for the eyes to qualify as flashlights in their own right. She's not adverse to wearing jewlery - typically silver and worked in swirling tribal tatto designs. Those designs are mirrored in the silver-capped datajacks and chipjack that run down the left side of her neck, and in the sparkling silvery tattoo patterns on her neck, shoulders and arms. The tattoos themselves seem to change every so often - obviously a custom nanotattoo job - and Maeva often wears tank tops, low cuts or sleveless shirts to show them off. Her english is slightly tinged with her french accent, though she remains tight-lipped about anything that happened becore her coming to the UCAS a few years back. Personality: --------------- Maeva lives not so much for speed as the chance to challenge herself. She's vain and seems to have a hard time resisting showing off in front of an audience. She's a pleasant enough person to be around as long as you're on her good side, though few are spared her razor tongue when she's stressed or in a bad mood. She has an immense faith both in her own abilities and the abilities of those who she've elected to call freinds - sometimes overestimating what's possible, but always trusting to her quick thinking, reflexes and smile to see her through the worst life can throw at her. She has tried carrying a grudge several times before, but has found she's no good at staying mad for extended periods of times. Even when she - intellectually - knows she ought to be angry enough at someone to rip their throat out (which is impressive in itself, considering her muscle mass isn't anything to write home about) several of her friends have found that offering her a glass of soybeer or a dinner is often all it takes to divert her attention. Her stated goal is to get filthy rich and live a life of luxury with the minimum amount of effort. She loathes manual or monotonous labour - with the possible exception of maintaining things that move fast - so if she ever acheives her dream it isn't likely it were because she climbed her way up the corporate ladder the traditional way. Attributes: ------------- Bod: 4(6) Qck: 9 Str: 2 Cha: 5 Int: 9 Wil: 4 Ess: 1.58 Rea: 10 Ini: 2 Edges/Flaws: ----------------- Impulsive Vehicle Empathy Bonus Attribute: Intelligence Skills: ------- -Active Gunnery: 6 Pistols: 4 Athletics: 4 Stealth: 5 Etiquette: 5 Car: 6 Car B/R: 4 -Knowledge Gang Identification: 4 Gang turf: 3 Lone Star Tactics: 5 Shadowrunner Haunts: 3 Scrounging: 5 Physics: 5 Paranormal Animals: 5 Navigation: 6 Racetracks: 5 Urban Brawl: 4 -Language English (R/W) 3(1) French (R/W) 4(2) Sperethiel (R/W) 4(2) German (R/W) 2(1) Gear: ------- Vibro knife Savalette Guardian (Smartlink-II), caseless Conc. Quickdraw holster Silencer Spare clip for caseless ammo x5 Regular rounds (caseless) x200 Capsule rounds (caseless) x40 Neuro-Stun X (Man & Machine, pg 121) - 40 doses 3 sets of ordinary clothing 5 sets of fine clothing 2 sets of tres chic clothing Real Leather Jacket Secure Jacket Form-Fitting Full-Body suit +Fire resistence lv. 6 Victory "Industrius" winter (closest match I could find to a racing suit) Basic pocket secretary Earplug cellphone Pager Shades, Thermographic Medkit rating 6 Medkit spare suplies x3 Stim. Patch rating 6 x4 Trauma Patch The corsair: Picture: http://www.imageweb.info/images/3BJ19793.jpg Modified almost beyond recognition, Maevas most prized posession seems to be the sleek, color-changing racecar. Running on jet fuel, it seems able to outrun just about anything you care to throw at it, up to -- and possibly including -- small arms fire. The default paint job is the same deep purple as Maevas fur, though she changes the chameleon paint patterns on a whim. Often to look like the designs of her shifting tattoos. Perhaps the most unusual modifier is the plastic grip extending next to the handbrake inside the car. A fastened - but easily released vibroknife occupies this space permanently, just in case the APPS restraints need to be slashed for quick exit. Vehicle Stats: ----------------- Body: 3 CF/Load: 2/45 Handling: 1/3 Speed/Accel: 478/34 Armor: 5 Autonav: 0 Sensor: 4 Signature: 2 Seating: 2 Entry: 2d+1t Fuel/Economy: 60/8 Contacts: ------------- Jeanett Clarke - Elven Bookie Alpha Blue - Human Shadowrunner Ray McCoy - Human Lone Starr traffic dept. desk cop Ben Biggs - Dwarven Mechanic/Garage owner Glottis - Troll Go-gang boss John Keel - Elven Smuggler/T-bird jammer

Fortune View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 12:51 PM Post #63
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Kiedo View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 01:05 PM Post #64
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 768 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Houston, Texas CAS Member No.: 6,907	Thanks for the help, fortune.

Sandoval Smith

Feb 26 2005, 02:57 PM

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Aes, about the car, I think you slipped up on the customizations. You have listed,

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Contigency Maneuver Controls lv. 3
Rigger adaptation
APPS
Crash Cages
Conc. Armor lv. 5
Sensors lv. 4

The problem with that is, your car has a CF of 3, and a Load of 45. Whereas that loadout has a CF of 24, and a Load of 290. You need to lose 21 points of CF, and 245 points of Load.

Aes

Feb 26 2005, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE (Sandoval Smith @ Feb 26 2005, 09:57 AM)

The problem with that is, your car has a CF of 3, and a Load of 45. Whereas that loadout has a CF of 24, and a Load of 290. You need to lose 21 points of CF, and 245 points of Load.

Probably because I omitted mentioning the load/cf increase paid for in the design process. I can double-check the numbers tonight if you're sure, but I'm pretty sure I paid the CFs and Load listed for all the components.

Sandoval Smith View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 03:23 PM Post #67
Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,144 Joined: 22-September 04 Member No.: 6,690	That would bear mentioning then. Even if you increased the CF as far as it can go, that's still just 18. The total load can be no higher than 260. In that case, you need to shed 6 CF, and 30 kg of load. Also, you also can't exceed rating 6 (even if it's under 8 avail) on gear at character creation, so need to downgrade the transponder library, and the anti-theft system.

Nightcrawler472 View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 03:28 PM Post #68
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 130 Joined: 17-March 04 From: A Hive of Vile Heresy Member No.: 6,168	Dear sweet zombified christ I hate relative frequencies. And, with that out the way... I'm planning to play an ex go-ganger in either a Ford Mustang (use the GM-Nissan 3220 profile then modify it), or an Aston Martin Vanquish (yes, I'm English), probably the Mustang as a Vanquish'd have a fairly high Avail. Anyway, I've got a rough concept of the numbers (just no time to do it 'till after Monday morning), but I could really use some help modifying the car. I've got Rigger 3 (somewhere), and I'm thinking of adding some concealed armour & a rollcage, then just improving the engine & handling (and maybe adding N20 injectors), but I'm not sure of the numbers, so can someone help? Oh, and would a pair of pop-up auto-targetting shotguns in the bonnet be excessive? (I saw 'Die Another Day' last night). Anyway, character'll be done by Tuesday hopefully, but I'd really appreciate some help with the number crunching for the car modification. As for the run...am I to take it we're a quasi-legal racing team then? (reminds me of some old cartoon show, but I can't think which one)

Kiedo View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 03:33 PM Post #69
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 768 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Houston, Texas CAS Member No.: 6,907	according to what you sent me, you've given the corsair 13cf and 165 load still not enough to carry your mods. Which ones of the long list of custom parts did you put on during vehicle creation and afterwards. I noticed that some things have load in after creation customization but not in the design phase, probably becasue they are naturally incorporated into the design of the car rather than just slapped in afterwards

Thomas

Feb 26 2005, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE (Nightcrawler472 @ Feb 26 2005, 09:28 AM)

As for the run...am I to take it we're a quasi-legal racing team then? (reminds me of some old cartoon show, but I can't think which one)

I was thinking of submitting a character from "Death Race 2000", but that might be to corny - besides, most of my characters have more depth than that.

Aes View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 03:44 PM Post #71
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 13-January 05 From: Forgot where his meat body was Member No.: 6,971	grabs rigger 3 Looking at the design costs Contigency Maneuver Controls lv. 3 - pg. 128 - 105DP, 75kg load reduction Rigger adaptation - pg. 130 - 35DP APPS - pg. 131 - 60DP (30/seat) Crash Cages - pg. 132 - 40DP, load reduction 10kg Conc. Armor lv. 5 - pg. 132 - DP: 250, CF 10, Load reduction 225kg Sensors lv. 4 - pg. 146 - DP 100, CF 2, load 35kg Total load: 345kg Total CF: 12 I don't see a CF problem at all, though I'll admit to the armor blooper. I forgot to multiply the load by the # of armor points, leading to the lightest armor plating ever devised(!!!) :P That being said, it's only 85kg above what the car should be able to haul with max. load increase, so I suppose dropping the armor to 3 and shifting the freed CFs to increase the vehicles max load should fix it. 2 CFs are worth 10dp, which in turn can boost the load another 100kg Dropping transponder library and anti-theft as well would leave her with a final load capacity of 25kg and 2 free CFs. And 20240 :nuyen: spare. Does that sound about right?

Kiedo View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 03:55 PM Post #72
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 768 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Houston, Texas CAS Member No.: 6,907	Nightcrawler472: Aside from the sacrilege of using a GM car's stats for your FORD mustang, tuesday is fine, just be sure to get it in before wednesday, I hope to have the OOC up very late wednesday night. But heck thats still a few days off. "bonnet" shotguns (psst thats the hood right? lol), excessive, no, useful, maybe (that all depends on the runners themselves). Quasi-legal, yeah thats about right, though judging from the bio's I have one or two racers that might have an inclination to more legal races. As for the run, there will be a nice mix of legal and para-legal racing going down. Thomas: Maybe one of those "deep" characters might be better suited...

Kiedo View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 04:00 PM Post #73
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 768 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Houston, Texas CAS Member No.: 6,907	Aes: yeah that sounds right. Just send me the finished copy, and that'll be fine. Unless somebody else sees a problem... looks around

Ecclesiastes View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 04:01 PM Post #74
Jesus Freak Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,141 Joined: 23-April 04 From: Anaheim, CA Member No.: 6,274	Kiedo: Just so you know, I have Rigger 3 Revised as well, and Sports Car is listed as being allowed to have a Jet Turbine.

Kiedo View Member Profile	Feb 26 2005, 04:07 PM Post #75
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 768 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Houston, Texas CAS Member No.: 6,907	Thanks, Ecclesiastes. And thanks again to fortune for showing me that I need a new copy of rigger 3. lol.

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