Holy Shit, That is some fast shooting. Options

[Arethusa]

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Chucknutters...fastshooter.zip

[James McMurray]

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[Arethusa]

Still working for me. It's on your end.

[GlassJaw]

Try doing a Save As instead of just clicking on the link. It didn't work for me at first either.

Damn, that guy must be an adept or something.

[Necro Tech]

Thats an impressive 7 actions in one combat turn.

[Capt. Dave]

That is insane...wow.

Where'd he get MBW this early?

[Charon]

A quick web search told me this guy is Jerry Miculek, using probably a S&W .38 revolver.

There seems to be virtually no recoil on that thing. I was kind of surprised. My only experience with firearms is shooting a C7 (Modified M16) which hardly compares but I still would have thought a revolver would pack more recoil. Guess I was wrong.

[DrJest]

Holy crapola. I didn't even think a revolver could cycle that fast :eek:

[Sandoval Smith]

All things considered, those were probably pretty light rounds he was using (distance to the target, and the fact he was shooting paper targets and not trying to split engine blocks). I've used a Ruger target pistol firing .22s, and while the recoil wasn't completly neglible, if you've got a good shooting stance and some mass to you it's not that hard to overcome. If I tried that I'd be more worried about yanking the gun around trying to pull the trigger that fast.

*edit*
If he's shooting a .38 caliber revolver, that's obviously going to have more recoil than a .22. If you watch the video at full screen, you can see the barrel rise, although he gets it back down for each shot. I believe that .38 is a light enough round that if that revolver had much mass to it, it would be a big help in keeping recoil down.

[Tziluthi]

Sweet mother of God! That's incredible. Did you see how fast he reloaded?

[Austere Emancipa...]

I could download a .zip file, but it was only 5kb in size and damaged. Now I cannot access it at all.

I assume this is one of the more or less recognized world record shoots where he fires a .45 ACP or .38 Special revolver 12 times at a target in just under 3 seconds. I remember discussing this before on this forum, but the video is great for the few whose minds have been corrupted by the 2-shots-per-CT weapons of SR and keep thinking it's just a set-up or an outright lie.

This post has been edited by Austere Emancipator: Feb 25 2005, 11:34 AM

[mfb]

yeah? well, i can do that in time crisis 2. how 'bout that.

[Cray74]

[Chibu]

well, that's pretty impressive

[DrJest]

Austere,

8 rounds in one target in under 1 second. 8 rounds in 4 targets in 1.06 seconds. 6 rounds, reload, 6 more rounds (revolver this time) in 2.99 seconds.

[Austere Emancipa...]

Cray74: He doesn't cheat, he's just using house rules which allow a character to fire more than 2 rounds with a SA-mode weapon in one action. And while I haven't actually seen the movie, I take it there's nobody else doing much of anything in it, so you wouldn't know if everybody else is having their first init pass actions before his last shots.

DrJest: All those records are shown in the same video clip? Damn, now I'd really like to have it. :(

[Edit]Now I got the clip. The 8 rounds in 1 second was done with a S&W Model 627 in .357 Magnum, as was the 8 rounds on 4 targets in 1.06 seconds. The 2 x 6 rounds in 2.99 seconds was shot with a S&W Model 625 in .45 ACP. There's an article on the S&W website on it.[/Edit]

This post has been edited by Austere Emancipator: Feb 25 2005, 02:15 PM

[DrJest]

I got a crap connection (dialup) but if you send me an email addy I'll try mailing it to you

[Jrayjoker]

Wow, that guy is dedicated. He may not be hitting the bullseye every time, but he puts enough lead in the air that it doesn't matter.

[Austere Emancipa...]

I think what you see here, though not very clearly, are the 12 shots he fired with the S&W Model 625 in 2.99 seconds, at a distance of 15 feet/4.6 meters. Not the most accurate fire in the world, but it's not altogether too shabby either -- I know I can get a better score at 25 meters, but it'll take me about 20 times as long.

[Fortune]

I think the reload impressed me the most, though the rest wasn't too shabby either.

[Weredigo]

:eek: WOW, I am Impressed. Now I'm wondering how fast his Draw is.

[Chibu]

You all fail to realize that he could just have an insane reaction and can get multiple actions in a round.... like maybe a d6 +120...

[Raygun]

Just shows you what is possible when a really skilled shooter is doing the shooting. I used to have a rule that covered this kind of thing, but now I can't find it. I'm pretty sure it was on a thread here where I posted a link to this exact same instance.

While Miculek is an awesomely fast shooter, he still hasn't beaten Ed McGivern's record set back in 1932 of five shots in 0.4 seconds (from a non-compensated 6" S&W M&P revolver). McGivern also reportedly put those rounds into an area "the size of a playing card" at a distance of 15 feet. Oddly enough, McGivern is the main person Miculek studied to pull off the stuff you see in that video.

BTW, Miculek used a handloaded .38 Special wadcutter load (2.7 gr. Bullseye with a 148 gr. cast wadcutter bullet) out of the .357 revolver.

[Charon]

The way I read it is Miculek didn't care to go after McGivern records because of the inaccuracy of the methods used to time them.

Given the instrument used at the time, the real time could easily be .05 higher or lower so you end up with no real way of being sure you beat the record or not. I'm guessing he doesn't want asterisk apposed to his own marks.

EDIT : I read McGivern did 5 shot in .6 seconds, not .4

[Kagetenshi]

He's got the Adrenaline Surge edge and rolls a lot of sixes.

~J