 Tourcher or mind probe, witch would you prefer to reseve |
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 Mar 4 2005, 04:42 PM
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Neophyte Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,073 Joined: 23-August 04 Member No.: 6,587  |
Tourcher or mind probe, witch would you prefer to reseve
Personally I find it strange that games with a defend moral stance (D&D) list torcher as always evil but mind affecting magic as not. I for one (and I say this out of character) would prefer to be tortured than have somebody read my mind, haven forbid they should try to control it. And call it bad RP if you will but that opinion goes into every character I play. I am curious to know what others think of this. Edward |
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Mar 4 2005, 04:48 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 668 Joined: 15-February 05 From: Ontario, Canada Member No.: 7,086 |
Ack.. think I put those in the reverse order..
Mind Probe doesn't bother me. People want to read my mind, they're welcome to it. Mental Compulsion, that bothers me, but not as much as people would think. Torture just disturbs me. It's needlessly cruel, brutal, and destructive to the mind, body and soul. Mental Compulsion may be a form of torture, of course, if you're being manipulated like a puppet and forced to do things that you're fundamentally opposed to (ie/kill your lover) Then again, I'm very much pagan, and am quite comfortable with the idea of telepathy and mind-reading, just as a natural talent for people. It doesn't bother me any more than people who can read what I'm thinking/feeling just by looking at me. |
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Mar 4 2005, 05:02 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
Sorry to be nitpicky, but it's 'torture', not 'torcher'. Though torching someone would be a form of torture too...
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Mar 4 2005, 05:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 17-November 03 From: Texas Member No.: 5,828 |
You'll get used to Edward's posts. He uses the spell checker and doesn't know how to pick the actual words he means to use. The headache from reading them goes away after about half an hour. |
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Mar 4 2005, 05:45 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 351 Joined: 17-February 05 Member No.: 7,093 |
Ah terrible spelling, a form of torture in and of itself.
Now, personally I weigh in on Mental Compulsion being the worst, Torture second, and Mind Probe a poor runner up. The mind probe can be fooled, the torture can be endured, but losing the ability to control yourself? That's just creepy. |
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Mar 4 2005, 05:49 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686 |
A half hour you say? What if it lasts longer? Mine seems to be going for as long as I keep this window open. |
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Mar 4 2005, 06:52 PM
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The Sewer Jockey Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 857 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Kent, United Kingdom Member No.: 1,197 |
Take two hits of the "Back" button, with water, and call me in the morning... ;)
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Mar 4 2005, 07:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 376 Joined: 14-July 03 Member No.: 4,928 |
I'd prefer Mind Probe and Compulsion first - easier to resist if you don't have stun and physical damage adding wound modifiers to resisting spells :D
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Mar 4 2005, 07:55 PM
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It's for winners Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 523 Joined: 8-February 05 From: Wiltshire with da shooty stuff Member No.: 7,067 |
I prefer torture .... but thats what my character would do, DAM those flaws! :grinbig:
torz |
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Mar 4 2005, 08:19 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,088 Joined: 8-October 04 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 6,734 |
After what my players do to my poor, poor NPCs, I prefer torture over Mind Control.
*snif* *snicker* Granted, I think my players prefer that as well, since I've done the same to them... |
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Mar 4 2005, 08:52 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
And reseve is 'receive', right?
So what would you prefer to undergo: Mind probe, Control actions, Torture. Hrmm... Depends on the nitty gritty. I mean if they did control actions and made me dance the funky chicken, that'd be okay. But if they did control actions and made me torture myself, that would suck. |
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Mar 4 2005, 08:47 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Depends on the stats involved and the question of whether or not it would automatically succeed. If they're going to do all of these that they need to to get the info I'd prefer they just start and end with Mindprobe, but torture is the one that I'd be more personally confident of resisting (that is to say, holding out until I start telling them what I think they want to hear I had for breakfast this morning).
~J |
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Mar 4 2005, 09:03 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
Trick 'em, Hurt 'em, Brainf*ck 'em. In that order.
My reasons are my own, Mua Ha Ha Ha Haaaaaa. |
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Mar 5 2005, 04:15 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Boy that stuff, bad typing, makes me mad. |
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Mar 5 2005, 04:26 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Even being a wiccan, I don't want my mind read, but that is the one that does the least damage. You're still violated but it doesn't leave marks or risk doing perimant damage |
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Mar 5 2005, 04:27 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,129 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 4,712 |
Being probed (in any way) does not sound fun to me, nor does torture. Null vote. :P
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Mar 5 2005, 04:29 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 668 Joined: 15-February 05 From: Ontario, Canada Member No.: 7,086 |
I didn't actually mean it as I'm pagan so I'm comfortable with my mind being read, so much as I'm pagan, believe that telepathy and mindreading exist. I personally am comfortable with it, but that's not because I'm pagan... more because there are people who pretty much always seem to be reading my mind, and can't help it, so there's no point in letting it bother me anymore. |
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Mar 5 2005, 06:19 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,073 Joined: 23-August 04 Member No.: 6,587 |
I also believe telepathy and mind reading exist, and I have spent 2 years trying to change that from believe to know.
Telepathy I don’t have much of a problem with, even noticing what I am thinking on the surface. What would bother me is going in and shuffling threw (4 successes on a mind probe spell). And I would prefer bamboo under my fingernails than a control thoughts spell “you want to get up and dance the funky chicken” its not about what they make me do, its about having the choice. Edward |
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Mar 5 2005, 07:31 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Meh. Control Thoughts can't be worse than the usual emotional blackmail that goes on in most relationships. As for Telepathy:
-The Boy Who Knew Too Much, 1F19 |
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Mar 5 2005, 07:51 AM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Just imagine someone controlling your mind and making you shove that bamboo under your own fingernails. Creepy stuff. Torture's a close second, though -- and a fairly harmless mind reading is a distant third. Yeah, yeah, privacy's been violated or whatever (but only privacy) and that's crappy... but, hey, at least no one's slicing off my eyelids with a box cutter (or, again, making me do it to myself).
All things considered, I wouldn't mind a mind probe much at all. |
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Mar 5 2005, 09:08 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Droll! Very droll! ;) :D |
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Mar 5 2005, 03:31 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 668 Joined: 15-February 05 From: Ontario, Canada Member No.: 7,086 |
Been there, done that. At least, as far as empirical evidence goes. I'm not kidding when I say people have read me. They've, on occassion, pulled out some pretty tiny details. Now.. the control thoughts.. well.. that's a LOT like hypnosis. Not as restricted though (the 'you can't be hypnotised into doing something you aren't partial to'). I think the big reason it's not worse then torture for me, is that it's like hypnosis.. and nobody's ever been able to hypnotise me |
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Mar 5 2005, 03:36 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
I think you'll find that goes for an overwhelming majority of humans... |
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Mar 5 2005, 03:52 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 668 Joined: 15-February 05 From: Ontario, Canada Member No.: 7,086 |
Never looked up the statistics to be honest. I just know that I couldn't when people tried.
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Mar 5 2005, 05:14 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
what would I prefer? Mind probe. It is fast, won't dmaage my body, and above all, it's reliable, and cannot be resisted, so I'll be through the whole interrogation fast, and there'll be no point in additional torture to make sure I actually said the truth.
On the interrogator side ... also mind probe. It's reliable, unlike torture, which often gives you bad results because the interrogated will say just about anything to make the pain stop. |
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