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As an European I have always wondered how the Ghost Dance was possible.
Personally, I`m a bit sceptic about that.
I mean, I can pretty understand that catastrophes & magic power (and the relative "lack of magic" for the anglos) can destroy a nation (the usa) but to build up new nations you need people.
I understand that in many NAN old Anglos converted to Native American lifestyles or simply lived together with Indians in their old cities but, at the end of the day, you still need A LOT of native americans to be around.
So, the core of my question is: how is it possible?
I`m a European so I do not know anything about the percentage of Native Americans still around in USA but, from the little information I have, they are not so many.
Can anyone tell me if I`m wrong?
Can anyone give me some better ideas of how many Americans are now (March 2005!!!) not of European/Asian/African descent but have Native AMerican blood in their veins???
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- Luca   NAN   Mar 7 2005, 09:55 PM
- - DrJest   I don't have the figures (British myself) but ...   Mar 7 2005, 09:59 PM
- - Critias   According to this, there aren't very many Amer...   Mar 7 2005, 09:52 PM
- - Slacker   For the most part, there is a very low percentage ...   Mar 7 2005, 09:54 PM
- - hermit   The number of pure-blood - or at least 75% pure bl...   Mar 7 2005, 10:18 PM
- - mfb   my theory has always been that amerindian genes ar...   Mar 7 2005, 10:13 PM
- - DrJest   That's devious, evil, malicious, manipulative....   Mar 7 2005, 10:16 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE my theory has always been that amerindian ge...   Mar 7 2005, 10:16 PM
- - DrJest   Oh, I almost forgot - Daniel Howling Coyote was ta...   Mar 7 2005, 10:18 PM
- - hermit   Someone interested in the Horrors getting into the...   Mar 7 2005, 10:44 PM
- - Dog   Great idea, mfb. Mind if I take it a step farther...   Mar 7 2005, 10:36 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (DrJest) Oh, I almost forgot - Daniel Howlin...   Mar 7 2005, 10:46 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   "Someone else" being Thais. Also, in co...   Mar 7 2005, 10:39 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (hermit)Interesting theory. But, Europeans, ...   Mar 7 2005, 11:13 PM
- - hahnsoo   Bah, we Asians have the market cornered on magic, ...   Mar 7 2005, 11:14 PM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   Hmm... drunk Irishmen having magic, drunk pre-colo...   Mar 7 2005, 11:24 PM
- - hahnsoo   And to think, all those years the Anglos were sell...   Mar 7 2005, 11:17 PM
- - torzzzzz   QUOTE (Herald of Verjigorm) Hmm... drunk Irishmen ...   Mar 7 2005, 11:23 PM
- - Sandoval Smith   QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0 @ Mar 7 2005, 05:39 PM...   Mar 7 2005, 11:30 PM
- - Demonseed Elite   Census numbers-wise, it's not really possible,...   Mar 8 2005, 12:13 AM
- - Method   QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0) "Someone else" b...   Mar 8 2005, 12:12 AM
- - Kanada Ten   I think Aztlan left the NAN over the STC's cen...   Mar 8 2005, 01:02 AM
- - FrostyNSO   QUOTE (Fortune @ Mar 7 2005, 05:46 PM) QUOTE ...   Mar 8 2005, 01:13 AM
- - Fortune   Uh huh!   Mar 8 2005, 01:24 AM
- - Mortax   I just always assumed Coyote taught him the dance....   Mar 8 2005, 02:21 AM
- - Crimson Jack   Yeah... I play the NAN role down quite a bit in my...   Mar 8 2005, 02:33 AM
- - FlakJacket   Didn't the books say that anyone with native a...   Mar 8 2005, 03:18 AM
- - CanvasBack   QUOTE (Luca) Can anyone give me some better ideas ...   Mar 8 2005, 05:48 AM
- - RunnerPaul   QUOTE (CanvasBack @ Mar 8 2005, 12:48 AM)To m...   Mar 8 2005, 05:45 AM
- - Demonseed Elite   QUOTE As for partial native ancenstry... Very hard...   Mar 8 2005, 05:46 AM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   QUOTE (Demonseed Elite)One way I've gotten aro...   Mar 8 2005, 06:49 AM
- - CanvasBack   QUOTE (Demonseed Elite @ Mar 8 2005, 12:46 AM...   Mar 8 2005, 07:39 AM
- - DrJest   QUOTE The biggest joke is the Mashantucket Peqot. ...   Mar 8 2005, 01:26 PM
- - Demonseed Elite   QUOTE Yes, but for that to work you have to ignore...   Mar 8 2005, 03:05 PM
- - audun   QUOTE (Demonseed Elite)True, it assumes a lot of m...   Mar 8 2005, 03:42 PM
- - Demonseed Elite   Yeah, and despite Aztlan propaganda, the native In...   Mar 8 2005, 03:59 PM
- - DrJest   QUOTE IIRC lots and lots of Mexicans have Indian-b...   Mar 8 2005, 04:40 PM
- - Luca   Well, after al of this I can understand that the f...   Mar 8 2005, 06:34 PM
- - Demonseed Elite   Pages 14-16 in Shadows of North America are the on...   Mar 8 2005, 06:49 PM
- - mfb   those anglo reservations are great. ever want to r...   Mar 8 2005, 07:43 PM
- - Little Bill   While it may take people to build a nation, it onl...   Mar 8 2005, 08:28 PM
- - mmu1   Aside from the silliness of NAN demographics, the ...   Mar 8 2005, 08:30 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   And the infighting.   Mar 8 2005, 08:31 PM
- - Prospero   QUOTE (mmu1)Aside from the silliness of NAN demogr...   Mar 8 2005, 08:55 PM
- - mfb   yeah. it wasn't "a bunch of tribal forces...   Mar 8 2005, 09:01 PM
- - audun   QUOTE (mmu1)Aside from the silliness of NAN demogr...   Mar 8 2005, 08:53 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   QUOTE (Prospero @ Mar 8 2005, 01:55 PM) Plus,...   Mar 8 2005, 09:11 PM
- - Nikoli   Massive breeding programs? Remember, what was it ...   Mar 8 2005, 09:22 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   40% Where did you get that number?   Mar 8 2005, 09:28 PM
- - Nikoli   it originated from betwixt my left and right cheek   Mar 8 2005, 09:24 PM
- - mfb   i hear you can get pills for that, now.   Mar 8 2005, 09:37 PM
- - Nikoli   Yeah, but it's more fun this way   Mar 8 2005, 09:38 PM
- - mmu1   QUOTE (Prospero) It sure will - if it hits where y...   Mar 8 2005, 09:33 PM
- - Prospero   QUOTE (mmu1)QUOTE (Prospero @ Mar 8 2005, 03:...   Mar 8 2005, 09:58 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   They already lost legitimacy when they interned th...   Mar 8 2005, 10:12 PM
- - shadow_scholar   Regarding how the U.S. Army got their hoop kicked ...   Mar 9 2005, 12:04 AM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   Hundreds died, IIRC. And there were three big mag...   Mar 9 2005, 12:14 AM
- - shadow_scholar   Indeed. Well said.   Mar 9 2005, 12:43 AM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   I mean, the U.S. government can give up, or it can...   Mar 9 2005, 12:59 AM
- - Kanada Ten   What if we say (since canon says not) that the act...   Mar 9 2005, 01:02 AM
- - Arethusa   QUOTE (Kanada Ten) What if we say (since canon say...   Mar 9 2005, 01:13 AM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   QUOTE (Kanada Ten) QUOTE But how on Earth did they...   Mar 9 2005, 01:10 AM
- - Kanada Ten   QUOTE But it's still an inordinate amount of h...   Mar 9 2005, 01:23 AM
- - hahnsoo   Just two points, although I'm not favoring eit...   Mar 9 2005, 02:34 AM
- - Prospero   QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0)I mean, the U.S. government...   Mar 9 2005, 02:32 AM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   AFAIK, the football doesn't work that way. AF...   Mar 9 2005, 03:53 AM
- - FlakJacket   I always figured it was the US government that lau...   Mar 9 2005, 04:00 AM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   That works, too. More logical than a bunch of eff...   Mar 9 2005, 04:17 AM
- - Necro Tech   Maybe the SAIM had inside help. There are many Nat...   Mar 9 2005, 07:03 AM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   One of the missile operators was Indian. Damnatio...   Mar 9 2005, 07:16 AM
- - audun   QUOTE (Prospero)[....] would pretty much signal th...   Mar 9 2005, 07:21 PM
- - Prospero   QUOTE (audun)QUOTE (Prospero)[....] would pretty m...   Mar 9 2005, 07:29 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   QUOTE (Demonseed Elite @ Mar 8 2005, 08:59 AM...   Mar 9 2005, 11:37 PM
- - mfb   the NAN might, just to fill out their own populati...   Mar 9 2005, 11:47 PM
- - Kanada Ten   Or that they'd want to leave? I mean, Mexico ...   Mar 9 2005, 11:39 PM
- - Crimsondude 2.0   n/m   Mar 10 2005, 12:27 AM


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