 The Emperor's New Bullets?, Even Emperors gotta shoot people... |
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 Mar 12 2005, 04:11 PM
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Runner  Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017  |
Security cameras and the time needed to solidify both gun and bullets. In short, mages would be able to get threats through metal detectors just as easily as now, but they will also be able to give a combat bonus to the mundanes if they get a few minutes of safety. |
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Mar 13 2005, 01:19 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,144 Joined: 22-September 04 Member No.: 6,690 |
The spell as I was discussing was just create bullets. If someone tried to go about with create gun (or anything more complicated) then they're going to be facing TNs of 10-12 (for object resistance) at the very least, and while I might be okay with bullets, there would be long talk with the player over making spells that could replicate a gun.
Also, essentialy, if a mage is going someplace where it's very difficult to smuggle in a gun, and wants to kill someone, there are probably going to be several quicker, and less obvious ways to pull the assassination off. |
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Mar 13 2005, 01:55 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I keep seeing ORs of 12 bandied about. Can someone give me a canon example of something with an OR over 10? Most guns are classified as having an OR of 8, and highly-processed, high-tech stuff like Monofiliment Whips would be 10. I can't recall a single canon example of anything with an OR over 10.
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Mar 13 2005, 02:36 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 351 Joined: 17-February 05 Member No.: 7,093 |
The book says complex toxic wastes, computers, etc have an OR of 10+
The '+' is where you can get the OR's over 10. Personally, I'd put some of the highly processed stuff at 12 or up, but I don't really know about canon examples of something at that level, only the canon implication that they can GET to that level. I'd put the gun OR at six, more than simple plastics and other such items, less than electronic equipment, depending on what you want to make the gun out of. |
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Mar 13 2005, 08:20 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
In SOTA:64, there's a table on the Adept power of Attunement that shows some more ORs:
Handcrafted quality blade 5 Production-line gun, modern katana 7 Lockpick kit, dirt bike 8 Car, dikoted katana, racing bike 9 Monofilament whip, thunderbird 10 |
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Mar 13 2005, 12:41 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Yeah, that's a helpful chart. My point is though, that there is not one thing in canon that is specifically listed as having an OR over 10.
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