 Anthropomorphic Combat Drones, Where are the Threads discussing them? |
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  Mar 10 2005, 04:32 PM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 2-March 05 Member No.: 7,133  |
Hoi Chummers, I tried a SEARCH for Anthropomorphic Combat Drones, but could not locate them.
What I am looking for in Anthropomorphic Combat Drones Sizes from the size of say a small child to a huge troll or slightly larger. I am looking for Anthropomorphic Combat Drones designed for Covert Ops, Surveillence, and out right War Machines. I replaced the Cyber Zombie in the adventure SuperNova in First Run with an Anthropomorphic Combat Drone along the lines of the War Bot in the Movie "Judge Dread". Cyber Zombies seem so much more expensive and dark. Where are an Anthropomorphic Combat Drone is a cold, unfeeling, murder machine, that just will not stop. It had a Rigger Controling it and a for Robot back up. It was decidedly more dangerous, but alot more fun for the PC Combat Monsters to blow up. 8) Please help a fellow GM. :( Links Appreciated!!! :D QM |
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Mar 10 2005, 04:44 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 78 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Frederiksberg, Denmark Member No.: 6,794 |
I'll tell you the only thing I know about anthromorphic combat drones...
In the campaign "Brainscan" there are some anthroform constructs: Skellbot handling: 3 Speed: 5 Accel: 1 Body: 2 Armor: 3 Sig: 8 Pilot rating: 3 sensor rating: 3 learning pool: 3 robot pool: 3 Initiative: 6+4D6 has autosoft clearsight 2, Implant weaponry 3, sharpshooter 3 Weapon: Claw (6M) Bite (6M, -1 reach) ...and ofcourse any ranged weapon internal recoilcomp: 3 they are a good shot: rolling pilot and autosoft (3+3) 6 with a dice pool of 6 (learning+robot) ..and they use sensor enhanced gunnery... "lock on" and forget movement penalties, partial cover (it seems), lighting... check them out on page 154 SR3 |
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Mar 10 2005, 04:41 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686 |
R3R. Walker chassis. Give it 2 mechanical arms. You now have an athropomorphic drone. Body 1 is toaster to dwarf sized. 2 is dwarf-orc sized. 3 is troll-car sized.
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Mar 10 2005, 05:27 PM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,944 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
Try a search using anthroform, that is the SR term.
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 Mar 10 2005, 05:57 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 2-March 05 Member No.: 7,133 |
Thanks chummers, keep them coming.
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Mar 10 2005, 06:09 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
Well, the medium anthroform chasis is supposedly about human sized, large is about troll sized, so a small would probably be about dwarfish. However, I don't see a small chassis in the list. You could try to infer one from the medium and large stats, but the tiny tiny amount of CF left after the arms will greatly reduce usefulness.
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Mar 10 2005, 06:05 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Wait, R3R allows battlemechs? I'll have to look at that. |
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Mar 10 2005, 08:07 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686 |
Anthroform is human or troll sized, medium or larged size. I see no reason why you couldn't make a walker chassis into an anthroform, by adding on the 2 mechanical arms that the anthroform chassis come with. Its simply that the anthroforms are the factory standard metahuman drones.
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Mar 10 2005, 10:51 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
More like Elementals. I suppose Locusts are "car-sized"... |
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Mar 10 2005, 10:56 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686 |
hahnsoo.... walkers come from body 0-4. Sized the same as a crawler. Body 3 walkers are the size of a sub-compact car, and 4 are the size of a sedan. Thats fairly battlemechish to me.
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Mar 10 2005, 11:05 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
BattleMechs are supposedly a lot bigger than a car, depending on the tonnage, although my mind is probably warped from years of looking at various BattleMech illustrations. Locusts always looked about the size of a compact car (2 door Civic comes to mind) with legs to me, while the Atlas easily towers over it (over 3 times its size, if not more). The real comparison in my mind is the size of an Elemental suit next to one. |
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Mar 10 2005, 11:07 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
really? most of the mechs i see in anime are 1-2 stories tall. something sedan-sized is usually more often classified as powered armor.
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Mar 10 2005, 11:47 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
It varies greatly with the specific souce of the mech design. If you want a Battletech mech, it will be a minimum of 20 tons (but less than 100), and something vaguely like 12 meters in height (although some appearances will range from more like 8-20 meters, the game rules always assumed 12 meters). Of course, if you want a mech from a non-FASA related source, the results can be drastically off.
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Mar 11 2005, 03:08 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Oh yeah. Add an extra entry point so that you can get in and out, bucket seat so you've somewhere to sit and space to fit, rigger adaption so that you can drive the thing, enviroseal and life-support systems so you're not just gassed the first time out and take it from there. Has to be done through vehicle design rather than customisation though. There were some threads a while back arguing that they probably worked out cheaper than cyberzombies and lasted longer as well I seem to remember. It's been a while so I've forgotten, but what's the difference between walkers and anthroforms again? |
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Mar 11 2005, 03:23 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Anthroform = Bipedal Walker = Four legs or more. |
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Mar 11 2005, 03:15 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Wait, if you can only get up to body 4 with a walker chassis, that is not a battlemech at all. These things are supposed to be able to get many stories high and knock that 2 door Civic coupe around. Maybe almost comparable to the lightest mechs, but from what I'm hearing here, I think the Elemental comparison is more appropriate.
[edit] Or, I guess, apparently, you'd have to do it with an anthroform. |
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Mar 11 2005, 03:25 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686 |
Incorrect. It never specifies how many legs a walker drone has, its up to you. You can have bi-pedal walker drones, or 20. Also, when making an attack with a leg, you must make a crash test to avoid falling, which to me implies they have less than 4 legs. |
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Mar 11 2005, 03:17 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Not to mention the portable fusion reactor with tons of shielding and the really big gyroscope. :D
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Mar 11 2005, 03:21 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
I suppose that's technically true (anthroforms are called "specialized" metahuman shaped walkers), however I'd like to know if there's anywhere in canon that there's a 2-legged walker that's not an anthroform. This isn't meant to be a challenge, I'm just curious for my own edification. |
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Mar 11 2005, 03:27 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Elementals? I'm taking that's a Battletech reference, it sounds vaguely familiar? |
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Mar 11 2005, 03:38 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686 |
Best guess is the Mk-Guyver Robot Drone in R3R. It doesn't specifically say only 2 legs, but it seems like it would.
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Mar 11 2005, 03:39 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Power Armor, basically. They are about 12 feet tall (the pilots are genetically enhanced to be the size of trolls), and carry a pair of SRMs (short range missiles), a claw-weapon, and a sidearm (usually a machine gun, small laser, or a flamer). They fight in organized points of 5 (I think?), and have jumpjets that allow them to move quickly across terrain and mount an effective anti-mech strike. |
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Mar 11 2005, 03:37 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
It has six legs and tank treads, according to the picture in Rigger 2.0.
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Mar 11 2005, 03:54 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Hhmm, that's actually pretty doable. Ares firelance for the laser, HMG, Shiawase blazer the flamethrower and the old Rigger 2 rocket pods for the missiles. Can't do anything like jumpjets but after you've fixed four or five points of vehicle armour you probably don't need it. :) |
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Mar 11 2005, 04:03 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Yeah, these things are supposed to take hits from a Battletech Large Laser and live, so you'd need some amount of armor on it. There are lighter "scout" versions manned by the Inner Sphere (who just calls it Battle Armor), some variants made by the Clan (with Elemental-like names, Gnome, Sylph, etc.), and a particularly heavy variant that was supposed to take a PPC hit and still be functional. I'm not sure what would constitute "jumpjets" in SR, at least something reasonable in SR tech that doesn't involve magic. Maybe just the equivalent of Hydraulic Jacks to jump farther, but not necessarily like a jetpack. Or strap one of those Night Gliders onto its back. |
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