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Do the GMs out there allow shapeshifters in their games and campaigns?


If a shapeshifter is a spell caster they can cast some powerful mojo provided they do not take deadly drain and all of the damage will be gone at the beginning of the next combat round. The only limit to this extreme power is if the drain is physical because the shapeshifter learned a spell greater than his magic rating, something that is very unlikely given the rules for leaning new spells. If the drain is physical it takes them one minute per box of damage to recover.

How do the GMs handle their regeneration?


Shapeshifting is a magical transformation so why do the stats of a shapeshifter not transfer between human and animal form? Given their impressive ability to sling major mojo and the fact that their respective physical stat lines must be raised separately, why would anyone make a shapeshifter that wasn't a spell caster? For my campaign I am tempted to say that shapeshifters don't have to raise their stats separately but they do have to learn all physical skills for the two forms i.e. unarmed combat skills. What do you all think, how would you handle the power in your campaign?

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- Astelaron   Shapeshifters / Shapechangers   Mar 17 2005, 07:23 PM
- - Nikoli   QUOTE If a shapeshifter is a spell caster they can...   Mar 17 2005, 07:28 PM
- - Smed   Shapeshifters are pretty weak at character creatio...   Mar 17 2005, 07:37 PM
- - Smiley   QUOTE (Nikoli) Also, i don't think you can cas...   Mar 17 2005, 08:00 PM
- - Astelaron   QUOTE (Nikoli) QUOTE Actually, damage caused by dr...   Mar 17 2005, 09:08 PM
- - BitBasher   A shapeshifter NEEDS to be a magician anyway, they...   Mar 17 2005, 09:08 PM
- - DragginSPADE   I've got a player who's favorite character...   Mar 17 2005, 09:29 PM
- - mmu1   I haven't seen any high-karma shapeshifters, b...   Mar 17 2005, 09:57 PM
- - Astelaron   mmu1 How do you handle their combat skills? Do y...   Mar 17 2005, 10:05 PM
- - nezumi   I general, I stick to 2nd edition shifting rules, ...   Mar 17 2005, 10:13 PM
- - Capt. Dave   Edit, already answered.   Mar 17 2005, 10:35 PM
- - Paul   Come play a shape shifter in my game and see. Heh....   Mar 17 2005, 10:34 PM
- - Sandoval Smith   The regeneration thing is pretty powerful, but as ...   Mar 18 2005, 12:36 AM
- - toturi   While it is difficult to build a good shapeshifter...   Mar 18 2005, 12:49 AM
- - Crimson Jack   QUOTE (Sandoval Smith) The regeneration thing is p...   Mar 18 2005, 01:18 AM
- - kevyn668   I think the rules for shifters make them pretty la...   Mar 18 2005, 01:42 AM
- - Sandoval Smith   It was an animal that found people simply facinati...   Mar 18 2005, 02:37 AM
- - MidnightGhost   I play a shapeshifter, and it's a lot of fun t...   Mar 18 2005, 03:29 PM
- - Tarantula   Have the shapeshifter be an adept, learn performan...   Mar 18 2005, 03:46 PM
- - MidnightGhost   Make a shapeshifter adept with performance and a h...   Mar 18 2005, 03:48 PM
- - Capt. Dave   QUOTE (MidnightGhost) It's not mentioned in t...   Mar 18 2005, 04:45 PM
- - DragginSPADE   QUOTE (MidnightGhost)Make a shapeshifter adept wit...   Mar 18 2005, 04:48 PM
- - DragginSPADE   QUOTE (Capt. Dave)Or perhaps they should be reduce...   Mar 18 2005, 04:54 PM
- - DrJest   QUOTE If you break the law in the UCAS and they fi...   Mar 18 2005, 05:05 PM
- - Edward   Eth problem with using reaction as the natural wea...   Mar 18 2005, 05:07 PM
- - Astelaron   Here is another power thing to think about. Imagi...   Mar 18 2005, 07:37 PM
- - MidnightGhost   QUOTE MidnightGhost. Why would a shape shifter req...   Mar 18 2005, 07:29 PM
- - MidnightGhost   QUOTE The only thing restricting them from learni...   Mar 18 2005, 08:21 PM
- - Astelaron   They do have to go through the metaplanes just lik...   Mar 18 2005, 08:34 PM
- - MidnightGhost   ahhh, I always ruled that as magical damage.   Mar 18 2005, 09:47 PM
- - Sandoval Smith   QUOTE (DrJest) QUOTE If you break the law in the U...   Mar 19 2005, 01:37 AM
- - hyzmarca   According to some interperations Shapeshifter (and...   Mar 19 2005, 06:05 AM
- - ShaunClinton   Shapeshifters are cr@p. Here's how to fix the...   Mar 20 2005, 02:34 AM
- - Astelaron   After listening to everyones ideas and reading the...   Mar 21 2005, 10:52 PM
- - toturi   Until now, with all the disadvantages that the sha...   Mar 22 2005, 12:42 AM
- - Smiley   Would any of you who allow shapeshifters allow a s...   Mar 22 2005, 01:27 AM
- - Aes   Nope. Regeneration would make that kind of surgery...   Mar 22 2005, 02:10 AM
- - Capt. Dave   QUOTE (Aes @ Mar 21 2005, 09:10 PM) Nope. Reg...   Mar 22 2005, 02:32 AM
- - Smiley   How did I know you'd take an interest in this ...   Mar 22 2005, 02:53 AM
- - Sandoval Smith   Bioware would be impossible too, IMO. Just to kee...   Mar 22 2005, 05:54 AM
- - Astelaron   I was looking at regeneration as magical healing. ...   Mar 22 2005, 03:58 PM
- - MidnightGhost   Besides how many surgeons can do a 3sec operation?...   Mar 22 2005, 04:25 PM
- - hyzmarca   There are "rumors" of cyberware designed...   Mar 22 2005, 05:49 PM
- - lorthazar   Things like bonelacing might be possible. Why woul...   Mar 22 2005, 05:54 PM
- - MidnightGhost   Bonelacing wouldn't work because your bones ch...   Mar 22 2005, 06:15 PM
- - DragginSPADE   Regeneration makes it almost impossible to implant...   Mar 22 2005, 10:35 PM
- - Astelaron   I agree that according to cannon cyber and bioware...   Mar 22 2005, 11:42 PM
- - Cynic project   Me, I was thinking about playing a Fox Voodoo shap...   Mar 22 2005, 11:58 PM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Cynic project) But as I recall, if you are ...   Mar 23 2005, 12:32 AM
- - Capt. Dave   QUOTE (Astelaron) I agree that according to cannon...   Mar 23 2005, 12:41 AM
- - Fortune   Technically, that's because in SR3, Shapeshift...   Mar 23 2005, 01:37 AM
- - Capt. Dave   True, but then why was it not errata'ed after ...   Mar 23 2005, 02:09 AM
- - Fortune   Dunno ... ask Adam!   Mar 23 2005, 02:22 AM
- - Sandoval Smith   Maybe bioware wouldn't be too bad for a 's...   Mar 23 2005, 05:39 AM
- - Cochise   QUOTE (Capt. Dave)By canon, cyberware is impossibl...   Mar 23 2005, 08:03 AM
- - Capt. Dave   QUOTE (Cochise) Take the rumor on successful impl...   Mar 23 2005, 08:16 AM
- - Sandoval Smith   It's not that hard to understand, if you consi...   Mar 23 2005, 09:51 AM
- - Capt. Dave   SR Comp. states that all cyberware is rejected fro...   Mar 23 2005, 11:06 AM
- - Critias   Yeah. I mean, that's kind of what "contr...   Mar 23 2005, 11:06 AM
- - Sandoval Smith   QUOTE (Capt. Dave) SR Comp. states that all cyberw...   Mar 24 2005, 12:49 AM
- - Capt. Dave   QUOTE (Sandoval Smith) You know what, it also sai...   Mar 24 2005, 04:52 AM
- - Fortune   I think his point is that, in later books, Cyberzo...   Mar 24 2005, 05:34 AM
- - Sandoval Smith   I just don't get why you're having so much...   Mar 24 2005, 05:35 AM
- - Capt. Dave   QUOTE (Fortune) I think his point is that, in late...   Mar 24 2005, 05:55 AM
- - Sandoval Smith   I think you're getting mixed up on the purpose...   Mar 24 2005, 07:27 AM
- - Capt. Dave   Your point has merit, Sandoval. What you say makes...   Mar 24 2005, 07:55 AM
- - Sandoval Smith   Fluff and Shadowtalk are the ultimate example of Y...   Mar 24 2005, 11:09 AM
- - hyzmarca   Right, the point of the fluff isn't to give th...   Mar 24 2005, 06:41 PM
- - Sandoval Smith   I think that same question was brought up a little...   Mar 25 2005, 02:26 AM
- - Fortune   No, it would just get non-regenerating 'Shifte...   Mar 25 2005, 03:58 AM
- - Weredigo   In my humble and honest opinion, no character is t...   Mar 25 2005, 06:47 AM


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