 Matrix crash of '65? Wha?, I missed something... |
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 Mar 17 2005, 10:17 PM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Who ordered the pizza? Member No.: 7,184  |
What books detail the Matrix Crash? I haven't heard anything about this at all. Is this new for SR4, or contained in another book somewhere?
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Mar 17 2005, 10:23 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
The upcoming campaign books "Critical Error" and "System Crash" will do that, but the whole action will still be building up in SoA, SoSA and the secret societies book.
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Mar 17 2005, 10:46 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
As indicated in the current FanPro catalog, the books previously presented as Critical Error and System Crash have been condensed into an event/campaign book called System Failure, which will likely be the final release under SR3.
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Mar 17 2005, 11:03 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Condensed? I was hoping for a long, 200+ pages campaign book and an equally informative source book ... sheesh, condensed ... that'll bridge the 5 years gap. :S
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Mar 17 2005, 11:05 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
Well, keep in mind that a rules sourcebook for SR3 would be kinda pointless coming out right before the release of SR4. ;)
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Mar 17 2005, 11:26 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Sure, wasn't thinking of rules, more like background and a timeline of major events so my group will at least have an idea what will happen in those Five Dark Years, and we won't just timewarp our characters. And maybe some adventures involving the major events, too. You know, like RA:S and Brainscan, just a bit thicker. A worthy finale.
Of course, I realise publishing rules in that book would be absurd. :) |
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Mar 18 2005, 12:43 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,144 Joined: 22-September 04 Member No.: 6,690 |
Umm... that's the book that's going to _end_ the SR3 line. I would expect that everything that happens there after will in SR4 products. |
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Mar 18 2005, 02:15 AM
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And to that end, I don't imagine it's going to be thin.
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Mar 21 2005, 01:15 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
Don't have the 2005 Catalog, but picked this at RPG.net:
System Failure™ - Stock #: FPR 25014 The year is 2065, and all is not well. Apocalyptic terrorists strike around the world, a struggling megacorp makes a drastic decision to stem off impending doom, and an AI thought to be dead rises again. System Failure gives players and GMs the details leading up to and following these dramatic, world-shaking events, providing numerous scenarios for runners to play a role in the biggest shakeup the Shadowrun universe has seen in decades. 2005 release schedule: Loose Alliances™ - Stock #: FPR 25006 Shadows of Asia™ - Stock #: FPR 25007 Shadows of Latin America™ - Stock #: FPR 25011 System Failure™ - Stock #: FPR 25014 Shadowrun Fourth Edition™ - Stock #: FPR 26000 SR4 Gamemaster’s Screen™ - Stock #: FPR 26002 On the Run™ - Stock #: FPR 26003 Street Magic™ - Stock #: FPR 26004 |
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Mar 21 2005, 01:25 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 983 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 326 |
Someone ought to fix that. You don't "stem off" anything. You "stave off" impending doom, not "stem off." |
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Mar 21 2005, 01:33 AM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
Stem means stoping or slowing down. Stave means avoiding. According to my dictionary.
stem could also mean branch I suppose. I´m not a native english speaker. |
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Mar 21 2005, 01:25 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Nice to see you back, 32.
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Mar 21 2005, 01:40 AM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
Could you say "stem impending doom"?
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Mar 21 2005, 02:19 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 400 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 825 |
Not really. To stem, as mentioned before, is generally used when you want to slow down or impede, usually with things that flow, like water (to "stem the tide") or some other similar metaphor. You can't really stem a specific, final event or incident like the one implied with the phrase "impending doom". You either stop it, or you don't.
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| Guest_Crimsondude 2.0_* |
Mar 21 2005, 03:38 AM
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Does it matter at this point?
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Mar 21 2005, 12:12 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
Or you could slow it down temporarily as a means of opening up other opportunities to stave it off completely. Considering that I can't think of a single scenario that would completely stop a struggling megacorporation (<coughs>Novatech</coughs>) from "impending doom," but can think of myriad examples where you might be able to at least slow it down... "stem off" seems wholly appropriate to me. But I like to nitpick semantics, too. Especially stupid ones like this. |
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Mar 21 2005, 12:25 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Why would you think CATco, as opposed to Novotech? Oh, and welcome back Doc. |
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Mar 21 2005, 12:26 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
I fixed it just before you posted. Memory's going downhill. |
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Mar 21 2005, 02:36 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 31-March 02 From: north end tacoma, wa Member No.: 2,492 |
so are all of the titles up too 4th ed comming out going too be 3rd? if so... :) i feel good. At least 3rd will have a couple rock ass titles before it bites it. |
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Mar 21 2005, 02:39 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
Most of them are source material not mechanics, so it really won't matter too much whether they fall in 3rd edition. For instance, I still use my Aztlan sourcebook a lot, even though it's not 3rd edition.
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Mar 21 2005, 02:56 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 31-March 02 From: north end tacoma, wa Member No.: 2,492 |
i feel ya on that. i also have the aztlan book, and the new seattle first ed. |
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Mar 21 2005, 08:05 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
:grr: If it's first edition, it's not exactly "New", is it now? The book has a proper title: Seattle Sourcebook. The whole point of the word "New" in 3rd Edition's placebook for the same location is that it's not the original, it's a new and seperate book. |
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Mar 21 2005, 09:33 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
i think what he was trying to say was that he had a first print of the "new seattle" book...
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Mar 21 2005, 10:44 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
In a discussion about how the fluff from older editions's fluffbooks is still valid in a newer edition? That'd make no sense then, as New Seattle is a 3rd Edition book. |
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Mar 22 2005, 02:07 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607 |
Jong, thanks for the heads-up. As for the 'new' SR4, I'm going to wait for it to hit the stores before I get all excited. |
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