 SR4 - a joke?, Happy April Fool's Day (?) |
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 Mar 30 2005, 11:18 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 27-April 03 Member No.: 4,519  |
Hi guys,
I will be the first to admit that this may be absolute wishful thinking on my part. What I am about to put up is by no means a concrete theory, just an argument based on several pieces of circumstantial evidence. Having said that, I think that the announcement of SR4 is an April Fool's Joke. Here's the reason why: (1) SR4 was announced on March 15 - a mere two weeks from April 1. Enough time for speculation to run rife. Enough time for people to get their knickers in a twist. The argument here is not the choice of March 15 - it's the fact that MANY other dates could have been chosen for the announcement. Why choose one so close to April Fool's Day? Yes, I'm aware that it was supposed to be announced in the GAMA Trade Fair - my bad if I'm wrong. (2) Fanpro does have a history of pulling pranks on us, the SR gamers. I cite the example a year (a couple of years?) back where Shadowrun D20 was announced, also as an April Fool's Joke. Again, the modus operandi matches the current one - announce it mid-March, get people's knickers in a twist, announce the joke on April 1. (3) Here's a fairly telling fact - Loose Alliances is still listed in the Shadowrun RPG site as a product that's about to be released. -If- SR4 has been in development for about a year, then the date chosen to announce the release of SR4 makes even less sense - because it's almost certain to impact the sales of Loose Alliances negatively. The basis - new rules material in Loose Alliances will become outdated a mere three months after it's released. I am, of course, assuming that Loose Alliances has no sneak peeks of SR4 material. This is an acknowledged flaw in my own argument. So here it is. My patched-together argument based off a hunch. Please feel free to tear this apart if you so choose. |
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Mar 30 2005, 11:34 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
And yet, if you go back to the FAQ they posted on March 1st, they'd taken out the wording "there are no plans for SR4 at this time." And you're probably going to get a lot of flak for this thread. Don't worry, it's just because you're still in Stage 1 of dealing with SR4, Denial, and many of us are already on Stage 2: Anger, Stage 3: Bargining, or Stage 4: Depression. There's a handful who are on Stage 5: Accpetance, but they get hassled by the 2s, 3s, and 4s even worse than the Stage 1s get hassled |
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 Mar 30 2005, 11:35 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 401 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Living with the straw sheep. Member No.: 2,850 |
A joke?
You've managed to miss the discussions where people playtesting the game have posted? And Patrick Goodman's blog? And the DevBlog on FanPro's website? And the previous topic with almost this exact title? It's rather a lot of effort, don't you think, for an April Fool joke? As far as I know, it was announced at the GAMA trade fair...and I don't think RPG companies play April Fool tricks on the rest of the trade... :eek: [Edit]You might want to grab yourself a flame-retardant suit their, laddie...[/edit] |
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Mar 30 2005, 12:21 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 27-April 03 Member No.: 4,519 |
Erhm....no I didn't. But I'd have to say, it is a lot less effort to post on a blog than develop, say, a whole website (complete with nice artwork and all) when Shadowrun D20 was supposedly announced - and that was later revealed also as an April Fool's Joke.
I did. My bad.
Perhaps. I'm trying to address some niggling doubts I have about the timing of this announcement. So no, I don't particularly want to troll, I don't want to be flamed, I certainly don't want a 6 figure consulting salary for taking over artistic direction of Shadowrun. :D In any case, I'll find out in two day's time and skip straight to Stage 4. |
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Mar 30 2005, 12:34 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 401 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Living with the straw sheep. Member No.: 2,850 |
It has been 15 days, you know.
The last time FanPro did an April Fool joke, they put it up on April 1st, not March 15th... Still, stay sceptical. I don't mind. If I'm right, and you're wrong, I have to spend more money when August rolls around. If you're right and I'm wrong...then I've just made a fool of myself. :D nothing new there... At least I'm in good (-ish) company... ;) [Edit]Patrick Goodman's playtesting blog Since I asked if you'd seen it, I figured I should give you a link. :) This post has been edited by Demosthenes: Mar 30 2005, 12:36 PM |
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Mar 30 2005, 01:16 PM
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Tilting at Windmills Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 |
Damn you, Demosthenes!! You just remind me that I need to work on the blasted thing one of these days! Damn wedding plans getting in the way of important stuff....
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Mar 30 2005, 01:30 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 27-April 03 Member No.: 4,519 |
Thanks! For the comments and the link.
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Mar 30 2005, 02:05 PM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
This is not a joke. Because I can´t imagine anyone laughing if it was.
(eccept the few who still hope it is a joke) |
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Mar 30 2005, 02:12 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
It. is. not. a. joke.
Period. No joke to be found! Loose Alliances, Shadows of Asia, Shadows of Latin America, these books will not be invalidated by SR4 because they are pretty much entirely source and setting material. In fact, those books will likely contain seeds that will become more detailed in SR4. |
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Mar 30 2005, 02:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 458 Joined: 28-March 05 From: NA/UCAS/IN/ Member No.: 7,246 |
Further evidence that it is not a joke, go to Battlecorps and download the Fanpro 2005 catalog. It's free and has several pages of new SR4 material listed.
http://battlecorps.com/catalog/index.php?c...70f6d963ed43d08 |
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Mar 30 2005, 02:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 401 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Living with the straw sheep. Member No.: 2,850 |
Always happy to be of service. :D Seriously: wedding plans are more important... Well, almost as important. :grinbig: |
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Mar 30 2005, 02:45 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 27-April 03 Member No.: 4,519 |
Pardon me while I skip directly to step 4. -sigh-
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Mar 30 2005, 02:54 PM
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Tilting at Windmills Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 |
Don't tell that to my fiancee; she's stressing enough as it is. |
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Mar 30 2005, 02:54 PM
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Tilting at Windmills Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 |
Might I ask why? |
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Mar 30 2005, 03:11 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
perhaps he doesnt feel the need to be/do
personally,t he only reason i'm upset over it, is because i just bought my copies of the BBB and matrix ( my first two books) within the past 3-6 months. |
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Mar 30 2005, 03:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,709 |
Setting material and rules were almost completely divorced in SR3 (which I think was probably a mistake), so there's no reason that setting books wouldn't be easily adapted to new rules.
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Mar 30 2005, 03:16 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 312 Joined: 9-October 02 Member No.: 3,430 |
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Mar 30 2005, 04:45 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
Scarily enough, when talking with some retailers about April Fool's jokes [and recieving mad props for our execution of the SRd20 joke...], one of them mentioned to me that a customer came into his store just last week and asked if SRd20 was out yet. Last year, I did take the preventative step of posting in advance on a couple of manufacturer/retailer forums to let them know that SRd20 was a joke. Parts of working in the game business are "fun and games" -- other parts are not. :-) |
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Mar 30 2005, 05:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 458 Joined: 28-March 05 From: NA/UCAS/IN/ Member No.: 7,246 |
TOO FUNNY :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: |
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Mar 30 2005, 05:13 PM
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Slacker Extraordinaire Group: Retired Admins Posts: 337 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Ashburn, VA Member No.: 997 |
If it were a joke, and I so highly doubt it, I think the joke would be on those pulling it. The outrage has been limited to a vocal minority (not saying you guys aren't important) and a fairly large number of the fans represented here seem hopeful about the new edition.
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Mar 30 2005, 05:55 PM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
I'm not usually sensitive to this kind of stuff, but I find it wrong for someone to allude that SR4 is shit, considering IT'S NOT OUT YET and the hard work people I consider competant are putting into it. "It's a joke"... well, not funny. |
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Mar 30 2005, 06:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 312 Joined: 9-October 02 Member No.: 3,430 |
The actual joke was perpetrated by members of my gaming group.
It stemmed from a discussion about the fact that I buy EVERYTHING for shadowrun, and that i would in fact buy SR4 even if it does turn out to be drek. but you gotta admit it does make you smile... :-D |
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Mar 30 2005, 06:11 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Modesto, CA Member No.: 6,465 |
OMFG, that's funny. :rotfl: |
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Mar 30 2005, 06:28 PM
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Tilting at Windmills Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 |
Well...no. It made me go off on a lengthy tirade in my blog, which I erased before posting because it wouldn't do any damn good. But it did not, in fact, make me smile. |
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Mar 30 2005, 06:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 312 Joined: 9-October 02 Member No.: 3,430 |
my work here is done... :grinbig:
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