 Cover Art, Which do you Prefer? |
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 Apr 16 2005, 09:58 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 18-March 02 From: Plymouth UK. Member No.: 2,408  |
Heres a link to a Forum with a link to the new art.
http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?show...topic=8180&st=0 |
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Apr 16 2005, 10:28 AM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Elmore's cover for 1/2. Classic stuff.
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Apr 16 2005, 10:46 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 16-August 03 From: Japan Member No.: 5,497 |
I gotta go with 1/2 as well. 4 is a good deal better than 3 was but it still looks a bit cartoonish.
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Apr 16 2005, 11:28 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
I know. The cartoony covers just really put me off. The cover art for 4 isn't too bad though, and it nicely echos Elmore's.
Personally, of all the SR product I've seen, I love the following covers and would love to see more in the same style:
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Apr 16 2005, 11:44 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Tim Bradstreet doing the cover would be awesome :)
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Apr 16 2005, 11:57 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 18-March 02 From: Plymouth UK. Member No.: 2,408 |
Luis Royo.
That would be good. |
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Apr 16 2005, 12:42 PM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Okay, maybe I'm just missing it, but I can't find a link to the new cover art. I don't see anything for it on shadowrunrpg.com, either.
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Apr 16 2005, 12:57 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
Talk about elf porn... |
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Apr 16 2005, 02:49 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 619 Joined: 27-May 03 From: Detroit Member No.: 4,642 |
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Apr 16 2005, 02:59 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
:rotfl: |
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Apr 16 2005, 03:05 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
1/2. 3 isn't bad either, but for some reason I really don't like the SR4 cover.
~J |
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Apr 16 2005, 03:34 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
For me the troll's head looks...like some sort of horror from CoC. :P Maybe it's just the angle, or it will look better fullsized when we can see more detail, but it doesn't really look close enough to being human to be called a humanoid. |
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Apr 16 2005, 03:36 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Better than the massive cockup that SR3's cover, but still very disappointing. Especially with current books using better art.
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Apr 16 2005, 03:50 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
If I had the say on the SR4 cover, I would have gone with someone no one has mentioned yet. Klaus Scherwinski, who did the Shadows of Europe and Schockwellen covers. I love his SR covers, and I think he does metahumans without making them look awkward.
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Apr 16 2005, 04:59 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
I agree with this sentiment, although I always thought that he underestimated the sheer destructive power of a Thor shot (at least, that's what I assume he's trying to portray there... maybe it's actually a targeting laser for the Thor Shot). |
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Apr 16 2005, 05:14 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
That would be one bizatch "targeting" laser. :) It doesn't look like i'd expect a Thor (projectile) weapon to either, plus there is the second one that hasn't really done any visible destruction yet. I think he might have been doing some sort of non-canon energy beam. Like the Ares laser pack weapon, only airborne vehicle mounted. But his metahumans, ya I like those. P.S. Elmore'- stuff always strikes me as...static. Like i'm looking at statues rather than living beings. I think it might have something to do with the very fine detail and exteme Realism bent that he paints with. Of course that ninja-nympho-elf in the SR4 looks really awkward the way she is floating above the ground. Once again when we get to see the fullsized version maybe it'll look better. |
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Apr 16 2005, 05:25 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I'm not a fan of the SoE cover either, though the Schockwellen cover looks neat (I'm not a fan of it as a cover, but it'd look great as a full-page inside a book somewhere).
~J |
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Apr 16 2005, 05:27 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Maybe, but I doubt it. I agree that it lacks dynamism and motion, among many other things. Art was one of the Very Big Things Wrong with SR3, and, at this point, I think we'd better get set for a repeat performance— which I find remarkable, given that people like Klaus Scherwinski, Adi Granov, are available, active, and have done damn good Shadowrun (not to mention other) work before.
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Apr 16 2005, 05:29 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
The only reason I mention Thor shots is because I think that Schockwellen deals with the Proteus/Ares conflict, which involves an Ares Thor shot against a Proteus Aquacology. |
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Apr 16 2005, 05:32 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 130 Joined: 25-February 05 Member No.: 7,119 |
Well, the new cover is a big step up from SR3. Still doesn't equal Larry Elmore's cover though.
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Apr 16 2005, 05:33 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Who did the Queen Euphoria cover? That's far and away one of my favourites.
~J |
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Apr 16 2005, 05:35 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
John Zeleznik. The google is weak with this one. |
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Apr 16 2005, 05:36 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
Elmore's art is very neo-classical. The reason why you feel like you are looking at statues is because neo-classical art was inspired by the classical sculpture of Ancient Greece and Rome. The sharp perspective lines, subdued statue-like skin tones, and almost "epic" posture are signs of neo-classicism, and are very evident in Elmore's works. The thing about neo-classicism is that it is built on the idea of presenting clearly "idealized" heroes, which is why I never really thought it worked for Shadowrun, but why I think it works so well for Elmore in fantasy RPGs, especially games like Dragonlance. And can you tell I'm writing a paper on this topic that is due tomorrow? ;) |
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Apr 16 2005, 05:36 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
The Google is fickle, and every now and then she will abandon one of her followers to their fates.
~J |
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Apr 16 2005, 06:38 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Thanks for helping me to understand what i could feel all these years. EDIT: Hmmm, maybe I could have worded that better? It sounds like i'm waiting for someone to call for a group hug. :wobble: :eek: |
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