New Shotgun Ammunition |
New Shotgun Ammunition |
Apr 22 2005, 07:02 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
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Apr 22 2005, 07:06 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
The funny thing is I recall designing a shaped charge shotshell back in high school, right after having researched a lot about shaped charges work for a report. Yes, I got a lot of odd looks back in high school.
Granted, the design would probably make any real munitions engineer laugh his ass off, but hey, the idea was there. -karma |
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Apr 22 2005, 07:09 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
OMG.
That's freaking cool. That reminds me of some of the special ammo in Rifts. Like a small grenade like charge that is meant to be used on targets behind cover, fire at the cover, the round penetrates (not a difficult task for an AR calibre firearm in many Urban situations) and go bang on the other side, giving the targets a nasty little surprise. Just delay the fuse so that it's logically past the barriers and you have a room clearing round like never before. (and even more fun when it fails to penetrate all the way through a metahuman body and goes off inside...) |
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Apr 22 2005, 11:37 PM
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Mostly Harmless Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 937 Joined: 26-February 02 From: 44.662,-63.469 Member No.: 176 |
Heh. I wonder how they figured that one out. "Hey, let's shoot some of these through my Citori!" Boom. I can't imagine this type of round being terribly effective as an "anti-personnel" (read: fragmenting, area effect) round. But it would probably extend range a bit when used as a light anti-vehicular or breeching round. Up close (inside of 20 meters or so), there are other loads that would likely make it difficult to justify the cost of something like this. Can't be cheap. |
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Apr 22 2005, 11:55 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 626 Joined: 1-March 04 Member No.: 6,112 |
I wonder just how catastrophic the 'early test results' that inspired that were.
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Apr 23 2005, 05:00 AM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
Well, I doubt anyone held the weapons being used
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Apr 23 2005, 01:14 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 7-July 04 Member No.: 6,461 |
Kind of reminds me of the rounds developed by Olin-Winchester (East Alton, IL USA) for the H&K CAWS (12g 3 1/2" All brass cased round).
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Apr 23 2005, 06:02 PM
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Mostly Harmless Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 937 Joined: 26-February 02 From: 44.662,-63.469 Member No.: 176 |
Why is that?
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Apr 23 2005, 11:03 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 478 Joined: 18-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 5,918 |
I thought the H&K CAWS used a timed detonation 20mm round?
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Apr 23 2005, 11:41 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
No. You're thinking of the XM29 OICW. The CAWS was an ultimately failed attempt at making a combat shotgun.
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Apr 23 2005, 11:45 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
HK CAW
It fired (or was designed to fire) a 12G (~18.5mm) 3", belted brass-cased round, most importantly a tungsten buckshot load. I have never heard of exploding payloads being designed for it, and certainly, as with all CAW ammo, none were ever manufactured in significant numbers. It could not have been an important design feature, since no such thing has been mentioned in any article I've read about the HK CAW. While the XM29 has been (all but?) buried, the XM25, firing the 25mm rounds developed for the XM307 OCSW, is still in development and might some day find its way into the armed forces in some numbers. Any word on the Barrett XM109 Payload Rifle? This post has been edited by Austere Emancipator: Apr 23 2005, 11:49 PM |
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Apr 24 2005, 03:13 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 478 Joined: 18-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 5,918 |
That's what it was. Thanks. |
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