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 Apr 27 2005, 05:02 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 478 Joined: 18-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 5,918  |
Waahhhhh! They're making fun of gays on the intenet again, mommy! OMG!
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Apr 27 2005, 05:10 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
Wow, way to back up the "mature" end of the discussion. |
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Apr 27 2005, 05:10 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Was that supposed to be intelligent? Did you actually believe this would at all add anything worthwhile to this thread? Grow up. |
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Apr 27 2005, 05:13 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
Incedentally. Hoverboards are pretty much totally unfeasable outside of cheezy movies. They are almost entirely frictionless because they are on a layer of air. They would be nearly impossible to turn at all. Ever see how a hovercraft handles? Piss poor is the correct answer. The wheels on a skateboard and the fins on a surfboard are pretty damn important because they allow it to maintain a vector and give resistance that allows it to turn. A Hoverboard does not have this.
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Apr 27 2005, 05:17 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
which is why vectored thrust is feasable, but prohibitively expensive and inefficient
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Apr 27 2005, 05:20 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
Well, really vectored thrust isn't feasable as you'd still get nowhere near as maneuverable as a skateboard and it's be freaking huge to support a human and have enough fuel to run for any length of time. We're talking surfboard or likely much bigger. Fuel is the issue really. |
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Apr 27 2005, 05:34 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 478 Joined: 18-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 5,918 |
Ah, I see now, from the above comment. I bow to your superior intellect. U R g0dDz0rz!
Yeah, I see you sicced your little stooge Urethra or whatever his name is on me too. Way to go. |
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Apr 27 2005, 05:43 PM
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Apr 28 2005, 12:18 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
The link to a real-world personal air-cushion vehicle that was posted earlier in this thread (http://www.reallycooltoys.com/toys/i5info.html) shows one possible way of overcoming the problems of frictionlessness: adding wheels that only come in contact with the surface when the rider leans and shifts their center of gravity, and when they do lean, those wheels touch down just enough to provide the minimum friction needed to acomplish the desired effect. |
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Apr 28 2005, 12:20 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 189 Joined: 21-April 04 From: Usually in the Nexus Member No.: 6,266 |
Gotcha |
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Apr 28 2005, 12:23 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 189 Joined: 21-April 04 From: Usually in the Nexus Member No.: 6,266 |
[bang bang bang] Everyone check their sarcasm detectors. I think the network is down again. |
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Apr 28 2005, 12:25 AM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
If you've ever seen a video of those, you'd know they can't turn for squat. The wheels cannot get enough traction to even approach the maneuverability of even a normal skateboard. |
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Apr 28 2005, 12:33 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 189 Joined: 21-April 04 From: Usually in the Nexus Member No.: 6,266 |
True, but technology changes. If the technology was developed, it could be very useful, not to mention really cool. Hell, we are playing a game where BTLs and Wired Reflexes are common place, why couldn't this technology advance? It doesn't have to be vector thrust; it doesn't even have to be explained using what we know now as science. Bottom line is that it is definately possible. If we have slow, awkward versions in service now, then it is likely that the technology would be at that state in the Shadowrun world of the future. Think of the possiblities. Being able to carry a hoverboard on a run. You could hover over open ground instead of walking over it. Increased speed and manuverability. In the hands (feet?) of a apt user, it could prove to be a runner's best friend.
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Apr 28 2005, 12:48 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 527 |
I knew a few kids who hit the scene touting hoverboards as thier calling card. They were fast, fairly silent, and crazy as hell. Haven't seen em in a while, but I made a nice chunk of change off of them as thier fixer. Damn kids, they were nuts.
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Apr 28 2005, 01:09 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 560 Joined: 21-December 04 Member No.: 6,893 |
Just do us all a favor and shut up. I have played shadowrun with homosexuals, and they're pretty darn good at it. If you're so incredibly closed-minded, perhaps you might actually go out and meet a few of them. Then again, you may already have; how do you know that Fred, the guy who you play RPG's with every other thursday, does'nt spend wednesday drinking cosmopolitans and hitting on guys on the local crew team? Also, on the issue of vectored thrust, I might point out the Harrier jump-jet. It takes off and lands (while carrying a few AAMRAAMS, no less) on vectored thrust produced by an ordinary turbofan. Once again, most people view a hoverboard as a skateboard sans wheels. This is not a hoverboard. A functional hoverboard would require a large skirt, powerful fan, gargantuan fins, and a set of very powerful gyroscopes to keep it upright. It would not be propelled much like a normal skateboard, either; it would be steered by a pair of rudders and not leaning to the left or right, much like a small boat. In fact, it would not be so much a skateboard as miniature, gyroscope-stabilized, foot-powerd hovercraft with little wings attached at 45 degree angles. |
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Apr 28 2005, 02:19 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 189 Joined: 21-April 04 From: Usually in the Nexus Member No.: 6,266 |
The German Kids? I heard they were adepts. Kicked out of the circuit, right? |
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Apr 28 2005, 02:33 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 189 Joined: 21-April 04 From: Usually in the Nexus Member No.: 6,266 |
I think Grifter was arguing AGAINST the gay-bashing...just so you know. I also think that the harsh words spoken early on in this subject were just sarcasm. I get the impression that the gay-bashing was just a point being made about using the term "gay," with negative connotation. Besides, I don't think any of it has anything to do with hoverboarding. One of the best runners I ever knew was known as (his words) the Shadowflamer. He was an adept that specialized in cat-fighting, and was a wiz in the club scene. Never could get past his fascination with Bet Midler BTL's though. Anyway, everyone, lets all lighten up, eh? |
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Apr 28 2005, 02:58 AM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
Get over it, a guy used the word 'Gay' to mean something bad. Well deal with it. Gay used to just mean happy, words evolve. Gay is acceptable pop culture word for screwed up, or bad.
If you don't like it to bad. But thats no reason to go on a freaking tirade about it. So just let it all go, take a deep breath and get back to the subject at hand. I ran a Stargate'esq game in Welcome to the shadows. The coolest character was an 80lb dwarf who had a hoverboard built with R3 rules. If drones can be used as Jet packs, they can be used as hoverboards. |
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Apr 28 2005, 03:03 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 189 Joined: 21-April 04 From: Usually in the Nexus Member No.: 6,266 |
Amen
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Apr 28 2005, 04:53 AM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
But, what if you're writing a poem and need a synonym for happy that rymes with day? |
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Apr 28 2005, 12:37 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 189 Joined: 21-April 04 From: Usually in the Nexus Member No.: 6,266 |
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Apr 28 2005, 01:04 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 401 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Living with the straw sheep. Member No.: 2,850 |
Dumpshock persons unbellyfeel goodthink - doubleplusungood crimethinkers.
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Apr 28 2005, 01:21 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 942 Joined: 13-May 04 Member No.: 6,323 |
Hyz... you're smarter than that, right?
And you know, this isn't about words evolving. This is the same as saying you were "Jewed down" when talking about negociating, or "Gyped" to mean stolen from. Anyone tells me they were "Jewed Down" around me, and I'll knock them to the ground pretty hard and then tell them they just really got Jewed Down. It's re-enforcing sterotypes on a social group, and it's wrong. Sorry, but that's how it is. Someone needs to say when it's simply wrong, and using "Gay" to mean "lame" isn't cool. If you can't understand this, grow up and think about it some more. JaronK |
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Apr 28 2005, 02:59 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,548 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
Which is why I don't use jetpacks either. That, or I get a lot of PCs with burnt tushies. |
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Apr 28 2005, 03:04 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 478 Joined: 18-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 5,918 |
SwingKid- Thank god, someone has a freakin' working brain here. You are correct.
SpasticTeapot: Okay, first of all, you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. You just want to jump on the Grifter-bashing bandwagon. Secondly, you're jumping on me for making fun of homosexuals, which if you'll notice, I didn't do, and you go ahead and stereotype them all as hanging out and drinking cosmopolitans. For those too stupid to understand what my post was about, I was making fun of everyone here with their holier-than-thou attitudes, who believe that "Thou shalt not use the word gay in any manner that I myself deem inappropriate." What are you people, the fucking lexicon police? You know, this is a PUBLIC forum, and while I do not advocate descrimination of any kind, neither do I get all upset and throw a tantrum just because someone uses a figure of speech I don't agree with. You have an option to NOT read it if you don't agree with it. |
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