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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 494 Joined: 19-February 05 From: Amazonia Member No.: 7,102 ![]() |
So after reading the New SR4 FAQ I don't think that i'm going to be playing SR4. I'll probibly still buy the books for the other material in them, but, annoyingly, alot of it will need converted back to older versions. also, this will only encourage Fanpro to make the game even wierder and move it more away from the orrigional concept. Ah well... Not much I can do about it except voice my opinoin.
EDIT: And, so, of course, I don't see the Poll in the SR4 forum until after i hit 'add new poll' >_< |
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Ain Soph Aur ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 ![]() |
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It's for winners ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 523 Joined: 8-February 05 From: Wiltshire with da shooty stuff Member No.: 7,067 ![]() |
I put maybe....... again! ;)
torz x |
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#4
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 ![]() |
He's not redundant, just very thorough. ;)
I voted yes, or was it maybe??? |
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 ![]() |
At least we don't have people saying "I voted yes, but that could change" while those of us whose answers are no but that could change just vote maybe and thus skewing the polls significantly towards switching in this one.
~J |
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 ![]() |
I'm just curious about the person who voted for the last option. They do know what this board is about, I hope.
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 ![]() |
Master Shake, perhaps?
~J |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 177 Joined: 23-February 03 Member No.: 4,141 ![]() |
That must be you then.
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 ![]() |
Some people play tennis for fun. Rory holds grudges.
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Great, I'm a Dragon... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 ![]() |
Voted maybe again. :D
I don't say or no without knowing the new ruleset. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 177 Joined: 23-February 03 Member No.: 4,141 ![]() |
It wasn't me that voted, nor do I think it worth while to. I will fight at the drop of a hat though if provoked.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 138 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Paris, France Member No.: 639 ![]() |
I'm not sure I understood your point: you say that you won't play SR4 becasue the concept is too much different that the original one (SR1 in other words), but still you will include materials from SR4 in your game. So, are you talking about game mechanics, or background, when you use the word 'concept'? |
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 ![]() |
Really? None of us had noticed that. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 114 Joined: 27-April 05 From: Summoning a spirit of the land Member No.: 7,362 ![]() |
I voted No, but i'd buy the books for other stuff
the other stuff = Metaplot. Oh.. I'm such a sucker for metaplot. from the FAQ I can tell so far that SR4 will change enough that not only will I not know SR3 very well, but I will ALSO not know SR4 very well. I'd rather be beefed on one system than crap on both. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 24-September 02 From: Centerville, UT Member No.: 3,307 ![]() |
Hm. One option for yes, one for maybe, and three for no. I wonder what opinion this poll maker has of the new system that IS MONTHS AWAY FROM RELEASE and that NO ONE WHO VOTES ON THE POLL HAS READ?
Prejudicial, perhaps? |
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Running, running, running ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 ![]() |
no, i dont think thats it, as obviously, if you're going to play it, you'll be buying the books. but, as he has stated, you might buy the books for the other information (updating the plots and people and who not)
So, maybe he could've excluded the no from two of them, and just said, "Buying books for the metaplot information", but thats still a no to the original question. |
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#17
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 ![]() |
Nope. The system change is too much. Earlier changes from 1st through 3rd ed's made small changes to the basic mechanics, this is going too far. My group kicked this around and pretty much are going to kepe with the 3rd ed. We'll probalby buy the SB's to keep up with the world but not the rule books that are sure to come out-Guns, rigger BB etc.
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Decker on the Threshold ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,922 Joined: 14-March 04 Member No.: 6,156 ![]() |
Initially I was very excited about SR4. After four of those FAQs though, I remembered that the current dev team was also responsible for the current SR3 FAQs and erratas. As such, I have serious doubts as to theor abilities to write for so much as a single page without contradicting themselves, let alone being able to create essentially a completely new game system from the ground up and make it balanced and interesting. "Streamlined" I note is easy; any monkey can do it, as evidenced by d20. It's the balanced and interesting ones that are hard.
For a system like the current SR3 one with such fidelity and depth, the bar is going to be pretty high for the new system, and considering the dev's current FAQ responses I am in serious doubt as to their ability. Ah well, I guess I'll hear about it all come August when the fans who haven't been deterred by the press releases buy the book and review it here. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 494 Joined: 19-February 05 From: Amazonia Member No.: 7,102 ![]() |
Background. Events, people, history, but, i don't like the way that the rules are turning out. So, i'm (90% chance, It IS possible that it will still be good) going to buy yhe books and use the world material, and use the rules from previous editions.
and the last option was a joke... som there was a yes, a maybe, a no to the rules, and a no, not at all. |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 ![]() |
Joke? I don't play your shitty game. Where the hell am I?
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 571 Joined: 9-January 05 From: In the 9th circle of hell Member No.: 6,950 ![]() |
I've read the faq, and so far I'm not liking it. It seems like a cross between shadowrun and whitewolf's engine. If it turns out being what it looks like thus far, hell no I'm not using it.
That said, I will look into it when it comes out, and I will likely by books for source material. But they are changing the rules so completely, that, well, I'm really not happy. Yes, shadowrun has it's flaws. But one of the reasons I play is that the engine is one of the better engines out there. I don't see what they are proposing thus far as an improvement. If this changes, I will gladely take these words back. I hope I have to. And to those who have flaamed over people posting opinions over things we have not yet read, I have this point to make. No, we have not seen the book. However, what has been stated thus far in the official blog and FAQ is what we are talking about. The statement is IF this is how it WILL be THEN I won't play. Personally, as long as it is kept in that realm I see no problem. I have gathered that at least some of the developers read this board, and hopefully use it as a development tool. Dumpshockers are one of their bigger fan bases. I'm assuming if the say ahead of time "Hey, this is what we are doing." and everyone on here has similar reactions, they might take it into account. Course, just my 0.02 :nuyen:, I could be wrong. :-) |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,129 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 4,712 ![]() |
Yes. I'm a Shadowrun freak.
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,512 Joined: 16-August 03 From: Northampton Member No.: 5,499 ![]() |
I've voted "No. But, I'm going to buy the books for the other material."
Because at the minute thats how my opinion is. Theres a couple of things i'm not liking right now if it stays that way then i won't be playing it, i hope it doesn't, but it's looking like it will. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,144 Joined: 22-September 04 Member No.: 6,690 ![]() |
I voted 'I don't play SR.' Just to be contrary (and right now, I don't, but that's mostly for scheduling reasons). I'm getting a copy at Gencon, and I'm going to run a couple games to see how it feels. If it doesn't strike all myplayers dead with cancer right then and there, I'll keep going.
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,362 Joined: 3-October 03 From: Poway, San Diego County, CA, USA Member No.: 5,676 ![]() |
When is 4th edition due out?
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