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post Jun 22 2005, 12:05 PM
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I was reading the heavier weapons thread, and there was a certain amount of criticism being levelled at the DE .50AE pistol - how heavy it is, the heavy recoil, the lack of concealibility etc etc. This isn't the first time I've heard this, and since I'm not a firearms expert by any stretch it prompts some questions to those who are. I'd appreciate a layman's overview, although I'm happy to try and tackled technical links :)

1) What is the point of the monster pistols? In real terms, what role are they actually designed to fill?

2) From what I see, our resident gurus don't much rate monster pistols. What calibres do you rate, and are there any particular handguns you favour?

3) If you were a shadowrunner, what calibre handgun would you typically carry on a "day to day" basis? Why?

4) Assuming you were using a rifle or smg as your main weapon, what calibre handgun would you carry on a run? Why?

5) If you were a pistol adept, what calibre handgun would you carry on a run? Why?

6) If you were a pistol adept, would you carry a different calibre handgun for day to day purposes? If so, why?
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- DrJest   .50AE and Other Monsters   Jun 22 2005, 12:05 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (DrJest) 1) What is the point of the monster...   Jun 22 2005, 12:14 PM
- - Tziluthi   Well, I'm no expert, but the answer to #1 woul...   Jun 22 2005, 12:14 PM
- - TheOneRonin   QUOTE (DrJest)I was reading the heavier weapons th...   Jun 22 2005, 12:53 PM
- - Fix-it   QUOTE (DrJest) 6) If you were a pistol adept, woul...   Jun 22 2005, 01:25 PM
- - Crusher Bob   QUOTE (DrJest) 2) From what I see, our resident gu...   Jun 22 2005, 01:38 PM
- - Frater Inominatus   Originally the gun was designed, by J. Lindig, J...   Jun 22 2005, 02:08 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Tziluthi)Well, I'm no expert, but the a...   Jun 22 2005, 03:01 PM
- - SpasticTeapot   Guns like the S&W .500 I rule to have a truly ...   Jun 22 2005, 04:09 PM
- - BitBasher   Just as a note, I would NOT give a full size USP a...   Jun 22 2005, 04:13 PM
- - Crusher Bob   Since the AKSU (AK-97 Carbine), MP5 (HK 227), and...   Jun 22 2005, 04:18 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (SpasticTeapot)Because I only give my runner...   Jun 22 2005, 04:28 PM
- - The Stainless Steel Rat   Many States do not allow hunting with pistols smal...   Jun 22 2005, 05:20 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (The Stainless Steel Rat)On a side note gent...   Jun 22 2005, 05:26 PM
- - gfen   Apparantly none of you chitlins remember the Thund...   Jun 22 2005, 05:49 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (gfen)Apparantly none of you chitlins rememb...   Jun 22 2005, 06:01 PM
- - Arethusa   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) QUOTE (gfen)An SMG sho...   Jun 22 2005, 07:06 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Just get a Czeska Black Scorpian. There's you...   Jun 22 2005, 07:46 PM
- - The Stainless Steel Rat   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator)QUOTE (The Stainless St...   Jun 22 2005, 08:23 PM
- - Wounded Ronin   I don't get it. If you're afraid of carja...   Jun 22 2005, 08:31 PM
- - Raygun   At this point, it's pretty much all been said,...   Jun 22 2005, 08:35 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Jun 22 2005, 02:31 PM)...   Jun 22 2005, 08:38 PM
- - Wounded Ronin   Yes.   Jun 22 2005, 08:42 PM
- - gfen   The .38spl is as viable now as ever before. Just b...   Jun 22 2005, 08:45 PM
- - Frater Inominatus   That ROCKs!!!   Jun 22 2005, 08:52 PM
- - Frater Inominatus   When was the last time you heard of a police offic...   Jun 22 2005, 09:00 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (gfen @ Jun 22 2005, 02:45 PM) As for t...   Jun 22 2005, 09:01 PM
- - Raygun   QUOTE (gfen)The .38spl is as viable now as ever be...   Jun 22 2005, 09:54 PM
- - Wounded Ronin   Heh, 5 rounds of .38 for 2 attackers = t3h funny, ...   Jun 22 2005, 10:17 PM
- - The Stainless Steel Rat   QUOTE (gfen)The .38spl is as viable now as ever be...   Jun 22 2005, 10:33 PM
- - BitBasher   <tangent> QUOTE Be honest with yourself, do ...   Jun 22 2005, 10:45 PM
- - hyzmarca   A small .38 special works well in the average home...   Jun 23 2005, 02:35 AM
- - Wounded Ronin   For home defense why use a .38 when you could have...   Jun 23 2005, 02:53 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Wounded Ronin) For home defense why use a ....   Jun 23 2005, 03:04 AM
- - Kagetenshi   That and collateral damage. A miss with a .38 will...   Jun 23 2005, 03:41 AM
- - Raygun   QUOTE (hyzmarca)The only good reason is storage. I...   Jun 23 2005, 03:42 AM
- - Arethusa   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Jun 22 2005, 11:41 PM) Th...   Jun 23 2005, 03:52 AM
- - Kagetenshi   I find that nothing says "Home Defense" ...   Jun 23 2005, 04:07 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Raygun) QUOTE (hyzmarca)The only good reaso...   Jun 23 2005, 05:37 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Well, let's see... For home defense, ideally ...   Jun 23 2005, 09:11 AM
- - Frater Inominatus   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Jun 23 2005, 12:07 AM) I ...   Jun 23 2005, 11:52 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Yeah, sure. While we're at it, why not mount a...   Jun 23 2005, 11:57 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   Arethusa: I notice BoT also proved what I'd do...   Jun 23 2005, 02:15 PM
- - Wounded Ronin   No guys, you have it all wrong. Get the permits f...   Jun 23 2005, 04:18 PM
- - hobgoblin   and dont worry about getting laid ever again, with...   Jun 23 2005, 04:43 PM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Jun 23 2005, 11:43 AM) and...   Jun 23 2005, 05:38 PM
- - Arethusa   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Jun 23 2005, 12:43 PM) and...   Jun 23 2005, 06:41 PM
- - Zen Shooter01   I'm coming into the thread late, but I'll ...   Jun 23 2005, 06:47 PM
- - Raygun   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Jun 23 2005, 05:37 AM) Manu...   Jun 23 2005, 06:50 PM
- - Zen Shooter01   Knoxx.com has got something like the Loc-box, but ...   Jun 23 2005, 07:15 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Raygun)And if it's NIJ-certified, it do...   Jun 23 2005, 07:57 PM
- - Zen Shooter01   I think the thing to keep in mind in any discussio...   Jun 23 2005, 08:23 PM
- - gfen   Why is 5 shots more than enough versus a cop with ...   Jun 23 2005, 09:02 PM
- - DrJest   Just to say, thanks to everyone who's replied ...   Jun 23 2005, 09:07 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685) Yeah, sure. While we...   Jun 23 2005, 10:09 PM
- - Raygun   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator @ Jun 23 2005, 07:...   Jun 24 2005, 01:04 AM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (gfen @ Jun 23 2005, 04:02 PM) Why is 5...   Jun 24 2005, 04:31 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   You mean every jurisdiction, right? Nobody allows...   Jun 24 2005, 06:45 AM
- - Kesh   See my .sig line.   Jun 24 2005, 06:48 AM
- - mfb   are you sure? i'm pretty sure you're allow...   Jun 24 2005, 06:55 AM
- - Arethusa   You can open carry without a permit in Virginia, a...   Jun 24 2005, 07:08 AM
- - Critias   QUOTE If concealability is an issue then you are e...   Jun 24 2005, 07:15 AM
- - mfb   haha, jesus, i must have skipped right over that l...   Jun 24 2005, 07:23 AM
- - Critias   One thing a lot of people don't understand abo...   Jun 24 2005, 07:33 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (Raygun)I was looking at the test criteria f...   Jun 24 2005, 07:40 AM
- - Zen Shooter01   Critias: Your right that a concealed carry permit...   Jun 24 2005, 02:36 PM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (mfb) haha, jesus, i must have skipped right...   Jun 24 2005, 02:51 PM
- - Zen Shooter01   hyzmarca: What state do you live in, gunslinger? ...   Jun 24 2005, 03:37 PM
- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Zen Shooter01 @ Jun 24 2005, 10:37 AM)...   Jun 24 2005, 05:21 PM
- - hobgoblin   typical dumpshock, no gun question thread is compl...   Jun 24 2005, 08:39 PM
- - Hague   QUOTE (DrJest) 1) What is the point of the monster...   Jun 28 2005, 06:14 AM
- - Raygun   QUOTE (Hague)Besides, why settle for 13-15 rounds ...   Jun 28 2005, 09:02 AM
- - Critias   QUOTE Intimidation. Get a standard, 5" barrel...   Jun 28 2005, 09:34 AM
- - DrJest   QUOTE Considering... that the 10mm can outperform ...   Jun 28 2005, 10:12 AM
- - Crusher Bob   A grain is a measure of weight used when talking a...   Jun 28 2005, 11:17 AM
- - Raygun   QUOTE (DrJest)QUOTE Considering... that the 10mm c...   Jun 28 2005, 11:40 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   A few hot example loads for practical automatic pi...   Jun 28 2005, 11:48 AM
- - DrJest   Thanks for clearing that up guys, it's nice to...   Jun 28 2005, 05:56 PM
- - gfen   QUOTE When the odds are stacked against you to the...   Jul 6 2005, 07:09 PM
- - Method   QUOTE (gfen @ Jul 6 2005, 12:09 PM) ...in the...   Jul 6 2005, 07:51 PM
- - Kagetenshi   I would. If you're too serious about everythin...   Jul 6 2005, 08:43 PM
- - Method   mmmm... ulcers..   Jul 6 2005, 09:07 PM
- - gfen   QUOTE What kind of "real world" do you l...   Jul 7 2005, 03:42 AM
- - Arethusa   Why do I get the feeling you've never actually...   Jul 7 2005, 04:35 AM
- - FrostyNSO   I want to know why does everyone assume suppressiv...   Jul 7 2005, 04:57 AM
- - Arethusa   A reasonable question, but a counter: why does it ...   Jul 7 2005, 05:22 AM
- - FrostyNSO   QUOTE Get a standard, 5" barrel .45. Put a sn...   Jul 7 2005, 05:36 AM
- - mfb   well, the magic faries that fly around sprinkling ...   Jul 7 2005, 05:39 AM
- - FrostyNSO   QUOTE (Arethusa) A reasonable question, but a coun...   Jul 7 2005, 05:42 AM
- - Critias   I was wondering why, like, no one else was yelling...   Jul 7 2005, 05:51 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   I think the bit about looking down the barrel of t...   Jul 7 2005, 05:57 AM
- - mfb   that is either the most ninjatastic sarcasm evars,...   Jul 7 2005, 06:03 AM
- - Arethusa   I completely missed it the first time around, but ...   Jul 7 2005, 06:08 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Maybe because he knew nobody who knew jack would t...   Jul 7 2005, 06:15 AM
- - mfb   i'm going to go with He's Just Stupid for ...   Jul 7 2005, 06:22 AM
- - FrostyNSO   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685) Maybe because he knew nob...   Jul 7 2005, 06:32 AM
- - Critias   "No sarcasm present" gets my vote.   Jul 7 2005, 07:44 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   I used to stare down the barrels of guns often eno...   Jul 7 2005, 01:12 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (FrostyNSO) Do NOT look down the barrels of ...   Jul 7 2005, 01:13 PM
- - Method   QUOTE (FrostyNSO @ Jul 6 2005, 09:57 PM) I wa...   Jul 7 2005, 03:22 PM
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