Disposing of a Body, Creative methods Options

[Nyxll]

I was wondering if anyone had some creative methods of getting rid of a body.

I remember a conversation I had with someone a while ago about ways to get rid of a body without anyone knowing.

They claimed to have dissolved it in a bathtup with HCL. (which is extremely unfeasable.) The hcl would make a huge stink, it would dissolve the drain plug and fixtures of the tub. And would require a massive amount of highly concentrated acid.

I imagine there are protien recycling centres for legal disposal of bodies found in the street etc. Love to hear of some ideas people have tried.

[Canis]

I wonder how tight security around a crematorium is? I image they probably have virtually none, so it might make sense to break in and just incinerate the body. Anyone think that this might work?

I think some serial killer used acid to hide his bodies, iirc it worked pretty well, I think he was caught some other way.

[Shadow]

Rubish pile full of worms, they will eventually eat everything. Hell toss it in the sewers and let the Devil rats have it.

[hyzmarca]

Fire. Nothing is better than fire. A crematorium or a medical waste disposal furnace works best. An Alpha equivilant street clinc would probably have a waste disposal furnace. Suddenly, a level 3 Street doc contact becomes much more useful.

Rememeber kids, a cremation a day keeps the Shedim away.

[Velocity]

Just remember that a simple fire will leave behind a lot of identifiable residue. Crematoriums operate at extremely high temperatures, much higher than a simple bonfire.

With 21st-century advances in forensic medicine plus that damnable forensic magic (curse you, psychometry!), disposing of bodies is harder than ever.

I'd suggest the devil rat / worm option, if only because it scatters the evidence to the four winds, making it much more difficult to identify later.

Alternately, try magic--elemental effect: acid might be useful.

[Method]

Canis' idea is pretty good, but you'd have to be sure that no one ever knew you were there. Any investigator worth his salt that arrives at a cremitorium on a B&E call is going to assume from the get go that a body was destroyed. Then its just a murder investigation without a body.

Another method would be to have your decker hack into a hospitol's computer system and up load false orders to incinerate a body. Then you and your buddies show up disquised as orderlies and deliver the goods.

Or if you've ever seen snatch: find a pig farm, or a croq farm, or a paranormal pig-croq farm.

What about magic? You could destroy the body using a combination of ignite and sterilize spells. or conjure up a fire elemental and order it to completely incinerate the body as one service.

Or dump it in a ghoul infest tenement in the Payallup barrens.

[nezumi]

Acid was successfully used by a serial killer (I believe in England? I can look it up. It's on the crimelibrary website). He was caught because one guy escaped before the fact, and the courts had a fit (no body!) However, it takes some time to do.

You can also use certain other chemicals (and make soap! Yay, good, clean fun) to achieve similar effects. Pigs are popular, as they do crush bones and eat EVERYTHING. There's a case of a gentleman who successfully used that for some time as well (debatably, ghouls may be equally effective). Fire isn't good, as even at high temperatures, it generally leaves bone fragments, and, well, you need a big fire which requires more specialized equipment than the acid or pigs. I want to say that crocodiles (and most reptiles) won't be as thorough as a proper omnivore like a pig or baboon, if only because they're not as thorough chewing and their digestive track is slower and less efficient (so you could cut open the croc before the job is done). But that's just me.

Of course, all of those require about 24 hours to work.

Other popular methods - chop off the head, hands and feet and destroy them with fire or acid. Toss the body into a large body of water. There's still a body, but it's tough to find and difficult to identify if it is (although thanks to DNA evidence, it's losing popularity except among stupid people). Alternatively, put the hands and head in a suitcase and toss that in too so that's found and the body isn't.

Ejecting into space might be a little more feasible with semi-ballistics. Burying 200 feet underground will be easier with earth elementals.

Dump it in Payallup. The radiation count is so high that no one will go after it (although I suppose they could use drones). Really though, Shadowrun is so big, and so less regulated in parts, hiding a body when you have the time to do so shouldn't be too tough. I think the question of hiding a body on short order will be difficult though, and magic will probably be your best solution.

[Tarantula]

Earth spirits can engulf right? And they can move through the ground too, right? "Engulf this, bring it to the center of the earth, and then you're free to go, thanks." Body gone.

[tisoz]

Transform spell then let something or someone eat it.

[Adarael]

The Barrens. Because nobody goes there, there's tons of places to hide the corpse, and the residents and resident wildlife will eat it.

In that vein, ask yourself: do you know any down-on-their-luck Ghouls?

[Angelone]

How about just obfuscating how the body died? Drop it off something high, body splats, police being overworked as they are label it a suicide and get rid of it for you. If they even get to it before the ghouls and other such things.

[Trax]

Body Chop Shop, by the time someone misses the person, they've been "re-distributed" to a dozen people.

Or just stuff them inside a woodchipper.

[Kagetenshi]

[hyzmarca]

[nezumi]

I think something like that will get an astral investigation going in no time flat, and the spell will likely be pretty high force to get him to do that.

As for splatting someone, that won't help against dental records or DNA testing, both of which I expect to be trivial for 2060 police.

[Sabosect]

My group actually did this: If the wounds are not obvious, clean the body up and enroll it in a self-help program for those who have problems communicating with others.

[Angelone]

Are we just trying to get rid of a body or are we trying to find a way to make sure it can't be found/identified?

If it's the latter the Snatch pig thing is your best bet.

[Canis]

Crabs are also suposed to work well for getting rid of bodies. If you can find Tamanous you might actually be able to get some money and dispose of the body.

A bit off-track: a friend of mine was playing a crazed orc samurai, and one time he tried to make people believe that a person he killed wasn't really dead, ala Weekend at Bernies (the police won't be investigating if they don't think he's dead). Suprizingly it didn't work out very well. But we all had a good laugh.

[Angelone]

[Kagetenshi]

[Angelone]

On the shedim thing kinda hard for them to get out of a "cement box'. Think Dick Tracy where they were completely ecasing the people in cement.

[Kagetenshi]

Shedim reduce evidence. If they've been shambling around, who's going to tie it to you?

Master Shedim are just so much to the better.

~J

[Rev]

Shape earth would be pretty great. Dig and fill a really deep hole quickly. Ram would work well too in the barrens. Put the body next to a nice big abandoned concrete wall, then knock it over onto it. Nobody is likely to bother clearing or investigating the rubble, and quite possibly it wouldn't attract much notice even if they did.

[hyzmarca]

[Kagetenshi]

If you're disposing of the body, presumably you don't need it for evidence anymore (and have already been paid).

~J