Recruitment : Lone Eagle Incident, Alternate Reality? Options

[Mister Juan]

Would there be any logical reason for an SAS trooper to be on this mission? I mean, is there such thing as "exchange students" in the SF ;) Its just that I really feel like making my character an irishman.

[FrostyNSO]

@imperialus

Nice backstory. How'd he earn the silver and bronze stars?

Also, it is a little strange to end up in Delta from the marines without some specific hard to come by skills or other abilities. Does he have anything like that? Did he know anybody in Delta already? If his signup was reaching an end, it wouldn't be unheard of for him to leave the marines and sign up with the army as an SF candidate (which if he knew somebody in Delta, would be his fastrack to Delta).

[FrostyNSO]

@MS

Irish Immigrant?

[Mister Juan]

Ok... so no exchange student programs in the SF... I get it...
:(

[imperialus]

[FrostyNSO]

[FrostyNSO]

[imperialus]

hrm... well I gotta go to bed... so let me sleep on it... I'll see what I can think up. I'll post again tommorow morning and hopefully work out some stats for the Land Warrior too.

[Sicarius]

was just reading the thread. I think you should recruit a terrorist team too, and play the two against each other.

Donno how viable that would be.. lol, but the thought came up, and i figured I'd share.

[imperialus]

just to be clear when statting up my character I don't need to worry about putting more than a bare minimum into resources right? Mo only has about 1500 dollers (I had 3 karma points left over at the end of the day) so I assume that it is just personal savings?

edit: Oh and I did go the medical sargent rout Biotech/Firstaid:3/10 should be sufficant right? :P

[imperialus]

Here is an explination of how he made it into Delta Force.

[ Spoiler ]

Mo’s Silver star also happens to be the reason he ended up joining the Delta Force. In August of 2003 his unit responded to a call for help from a small Delta Force unit only a few miles from the Pakistan boarder. There was no space for a helicopter to land so they were forced to rappel down and attempt to aid the Delta Force operatives in a withdrawal to a better LZ. One of the DF soldiers a Captain named George Richardson had been walking point when the unit came under attack and was wounded and cut off from the remainder of his squad. Mo and one of his fellow pararescue soldiers sprinted across the open brush to a makeshift foxhole that Richardson had dug. Mo’s comrade took a clean shot to the head in the mad dash over to him and after arriving Mo realized that Richardson couldn’t be moved in the condition he was in. His right lung had collapsed and the bullet was still somewhere in his chest cavity. Mo shouted the situation back to his comrades and told them they were going to need to get Richardson onto a chopper from where he was. His team agreed to radio in his co-ordinates for extraction but they were forced to evacuate with the remainder of the DF operatives down to the planned LZ. For the next half hour until a chopper arrived Mo alternated between providing frantic first aid and suppressive fire when the enemy soldiers got too close. All the while Richardson watched the young man in action and developed an appreciation for his skills and bravery. Richardson kept in touch with Mo from that point on. They became close friends during Richardson’s recovery and though Richardson’s combat days were finished after finding out that Mo was interested in joining the Delta Force he began slowly pulling strings to get Mo a position in the militaries most elite unit.

edit: oh and I also updated his backstory to account for his medical training and fixed the juxtaposition of the survival school/pararescue school.

[Penta]

Thoughts:

1. If one has won the Medal of Honor (which I assume Imperialus meant in one of the last lines of his backstory when he mentioned a Congressional Medal of Valor), you will never, ever again see active combat service in a special operations unit. You are no longer covert, and have no chance of being so ever again.

2. That assumes that one, in fact, *is alive*. Those who have won the Medal for actions since Vietnam have, without exception (that I could find), won it posthumously. Even those in Vietnam who won it and lived, in many cases were severely injured - amputees and the like.

Edit: I was correct. According to the US Army:

"So few Medals of Honor are awarded, in fact, that the only ones awarded after the Vietnam War were bestowed posthumously to Army Master Sgt. Gary I. Gordon and Army Sgt. 1st Class Randall D. Shughart for valor in Somalia in 1993, and posthumously to the most recent recipient, Sgt. 1st Class Paul R. Smith for valor in Iraq. There were no Medals of Honor awarded during Operation Desert Storm and operations in Grenada, Panama and Lebanon.

However, since 1993, 39 other Medals of Honor have been awarded to correct past administrative errors, oversights, follow-ups on lost recommendations or as a result of new evidence."

http://www.army.mil/medalofhonor/medal/index.html

John says: What that last line from the Army means is that the vast majority of those 39 Medals were awarded for actions from WW2, as cases come under review through the intervention of members of Congress. (Not all of the reasons for delay are as nefarious as you might think. In many cases, the paperwork simply got lost. There were, however, more than a few cases where racism stopped the process dead. 7 Medals (out of the 39 since 1993) were awarded to black soldiers from WWII who should have gotten it but didn't. 22 of the other 32 were to Asian-Americans who were awarded the Distinguished Service Cross during the war; racism, hysteria, and the like at the time meant they didn't get the Medal. The awards were upgraded in 2000.

3. Someone here can probably find a precedence list of the various awards and decorations of the services (each has their own list). It may be helpful to consult.

[imperialus]

herm... Ok that makes sence. I could easally ammend it to another Silver Star.

[Penta]

Uh...One Silver Star is rare. Multiple is very rare, at least after Vietnam.

In general, in the US, awards for valor are given out *very* rarely, at least in the modern age.

[Tashio]

Okay with Imp going as the combat med I'm going to switch to a computer/electronics expert.

[imperialus]

Ok so does a silver star sound reasonable for his actions in Afganistan while a bronze would fit his actions during the ambush in Iraq? I did have a superfluous bronze star in there somewhere that I would be happy to see go away.

Also since you seem to know a great deal more than me about the subject are there any other decorations that would make sence for him to have? Really the only 4 American medals that I know about are the Purple Heart, Bronze Star, Silver Star and the Congerssional Medal of Valor.

[FrostyNSO]

I'm not particularly worried one way or the other with your medals, I was gonna let the CMH slide in the interest of "movieness". What I'm more interested in, is without the availability of cyber or magic, that Mo have a well fleshed out personality that can set him apart from the rest of the group.

Also, it might be a good idea to have some resources available. That money makes up our budget. (we're not dividing leftover cash by 10)

[FrostyNSO]

Ok, to offset the lack of interest:

Who would be interested in a 6th World Special Forces campaign? No need for bios and stuff yet, I'm just checking interest.

[Mister Juan]

Honestly: if you GM something, I'm in ;) I like your style :P

[Shadow]

Sorry, I am still very interested. Work caught me off guard this week is all. I would love either campaign as long as it was a serious one. In other words as true to a millitary atmosphere as we can.

If the sniper spot is already taken (my fav) I can go with a standard Soldier/Leader type.

[Mister Juan]

Also getting overloaded at work, so I'm kinda slow on the producing stuff side of thing... but my guy's sheet is done. To sum him up: big, tall, large, strong as an ox, good with shotguns, his fists and anything heavy (from machin guns to rocket launchers).

[Penta]

I'd be interested in a 6W Special Forces campaign, though it's been so long since I've generated a character I might just wait to get into SR4.

[FrostyNSO]

I want to "keep it real" for the most part in regard to military feel. I'm already trying to figure out how to justify only 4 operators (5 if I play one). Probably, we will be responsible for a "part" of the mission (attempting to disable the nukes, while the other element secures the operations center...just in case).

Oh and FYI.

Here is some info on organization/structure. Not sure how they do it in Delta (if they use the traditional A-team layout, like Special Forces does), but it's all we have to go on...and it is still army.

Team Leader : A Captain
Second in Command : A Warrant Officer

The rest of the team consists of NCO's (noncommissioned officers), generally 2 of each of the following SF Functions:

Weapons - Know how to use a variety of weapons, foreign/domestic, and be able to instruct another in their use.
Engineer - Construction and Demo
Medical - Be able to not only perform light field surgury, but also know how to set up a forward medical post for receptions of wounded soldiers with little support.
Communications - Be knowledgable in the most advance communications and computer concepts and devices, while also skilled with even the most primitive. Must be able to Build/Repair all of these things too.
Operations and Intelligence - Be versed in recon techniques and the analysing of intelligence, plus know how to apply that information to future operations. (A lot of Team Leaders and SIC's come from here)

Members would be crosstrained with a variety of skills, and know at least 1 other language and have knowledge of that culture.

From what I can tell, we have: (I want to make sure, if we only have a few people, we have the bases covered.)

Mister Juan - Is that guy a weapons guy?

imperialus - Looks to be a medical sergeant

Tashio - Said he was switching to a communications sergeant

Shadow - Sniper could fall under weapons sergeant or operations/intelligence easily, but it wouldn't be out of the question for you to be any functionality and be the team's sniper.

Everybody be sure to check what would be expected of the character in your position before rolling up a character.

Did I miss anyone?

[Mister Juan]

Yep, weapons for me.
I know it sounds strange, but I don't have enough point left for SMGs... I just noticed that...

[FrostyNSO]

you got instruction and build/repairs?
oh and you don't have to have 8's in everything...6's and 5's will do fine but 8's help =)

SF and Delta's strengths are as much in tactics and doctrine than hands on.