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Tashio
post Aug 21 2005, 06:37 AM
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Suppose that depends just how far you want to stick to real life. It is a game ultimatly. But if you think would be better to just stick to all male I'll make the changes needed.
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post Aug 23 2005, 07:52 PM
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Ok working on a character today, sorry for the delay. Its been a crazy week :)
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post Aug 23 2005, 11:20 PM
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No hurry, I've only gotten 2...

Tashio, we better go ahead and make your character a male...for now at least :)

As much as I love a good woman, I wan't to keep it as close to reality as possible. If we wanted to do some story-tweaking, she could be a new addition to the team. If they opened up SF training to females in like 2007, she could have applied then and made it on the team by 2008.

As for her other operational experience, she could have been regular army, running supply convoys and the like before trying out for SF.

What does everyone else think?
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post Aug 24 2005, 12:19 AM
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Well as popular as RIP and Ranger school is for SF you don't really need them. SF school is open to any E-5 (Buck sergeant) and above. You just need your CO to sign off on it and you need to pass SF introductory school. Thats a 1 week test that is both a PT and endurance test.

If SF opened to woman I doubt they would change it. However, seriously doubt that woman will be allowed in the SF in my life time. Of all the jobs in the armed services, special ops will be the last to convert.

Bear in mind I have no problem with this for story purposes.
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post Aug 24 2005, 12:30 AM
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You can enlist now as an SF Candidate, which basically guarantees you a shot. First you complete the basic infantry pipeline, and then you get to test for SF...If you make it through all the training, you're probably E-5 by then anyways.

I too, doubt that I'll ever see women in special ops...but for this, I'm not too worried about it.
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post Aug 24 2005, 04:33 AM
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Agreed. Women are *very* unlikely in special ops.

Firstly, the risk of rape as a means of torture in event of capture.

Secondly, most of the world doesn't exactly like the idea of women as fighters; missions like training insurgents or foreign mils would get lots harder with women on the team.

Thirdly, physical reasons. If I'm not mistaken, one of the reasons the SEALs ban women is because menstrual flow attracts sharks.
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post Aug 24 2005, 07:20 AM
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QUOTE (Penta @ Aug 23 2005, 11:33 PM)
Thirdly, physical reasons. If I'm not mistaken, one of the reasons the SEALs ban women is because menstrual flow attracts sharks.

That an old SEAL joke...and a damn good one at that. Runs in PJ circles too :)

The first 2 reasons are kosher, though...those and the fact that special ops is an "old boys club" of sorts when it comes to those things. They get first pick of the new toys, and they get first pick of the best people. Even candidates who pass every test can still wash out if they simply don't want you. Those first two reasons are the ones that keep them from getting sued though.

..That's how it was in The Legion. The French Army ordered the Foreign Legion to accept women into it's ranks. They basically said, "Sure, but they have to get by our screeners." (you get a number of interviews before you're accepted). It's one of the only times the Legion doesn't discourage the reputation of the men who join...(very rarely, it's true, but it's more to avoid the hassle of women in the regiment.)

No offense to any lovely ladies out there.

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post Aug 24 2005, 06:44 PM
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Joined the Navy in 1994, He originally wanted to be a SEAL, he washed out in BUDS his first time due to a knee injury. Shortly after he became involved with EOD viewing it as the next best thing to being a SEAL. He excelled due to his Genius level IQ and Photographic Memory. He advanced to chief Petty Officer E-7 in his first 8 yrs and was recommended for OCS and became a Warrant Officer. In the following 7 Years he joined the SEAL Teams and saw action across the Middle East, he has been awarded the Purple Heart and Navy Cross. He was assigned to SEAL Team 7 prior to this operation. He was chosen because of his extensive training and experience with Conventional and Nuclear weapons, and anti-terrorism training with the SEAL Teams.

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post Aug 24 2005, 07:10 PM
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So my idea fell through :( I am having a real hard time with a concept here. What do you think the age limit is for SF Frosty? 40? 50?
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post Aug 24 2005, 09:44 PM
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I think the limit to try out is 28...so probably something like late 30's early 40's...throw in few demotions and he'd be set :)
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post Aug 25 2005, 12:10 AM
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Frosty, I just realized that I might have been a bit... overzelous. I'm already in two pbp game on the board, I'm starting school again in one week, and I'm still working part time.

I'm have to say that I don't think I'll be able to do everything, so I'll stay out of this one. Sorry mate.
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post Aug 25 2005, 12:18 AM
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No worries...

Looks like Weapons Sergeant just opened up!
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post Aug 25 2005, 01:02 AM
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Ok I will take that :) Heavy weapons?
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post Aug 25 2005, 05:44 AM
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If anybody was going to be hefting heavy weapons, Weapons Sergeant would be a good bet.

More importantly is familiarity with a variety of weapons (use and maintainence), and to be able to instruct others in their use.
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Tashio
post Aug 25 2005, 08:29 PM
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Frosty whats the final verdict female male? Anything else you need from me?
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post Aug 25 2005, 11:51 PM
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I don't think anybody has a serious problem with a female.

I'd go male but I can't play females any good so I'm biased :)

*It's up to you*
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post Aug 25 2005, 11:53 PM
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I know I'm not in the thread anymore but I had to drop a comment.

Frosty: What? It's not SO hard to play a female! Check Ludmila out ;)
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post Aug 26 2005, 04:38 AM
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I have no problems with a female.

BTW I might have tracked down another guy to join the team. We are still accepting new people right?
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post Aug 26 2005, 05:16 AM
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Yeah, still looking. I'd need a roll call to find out who's doing what, though.
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post Aug 26 2005, 03:25 PM
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after many failed attempts to come up with a character I am going to have to bow out. It just isn't happening. Sorry guys, thanks for the opportunity Frosty.
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post Aug 29 2005, 04:17 AM
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I'll join you guys if you still have a space for me and you're willing to put up with my inexperience with play by post games.

What is currently available as far as positions go??
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post Aug 29 2005, 06:17 AM
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I've never played a PbP game before, and have been kind of itching to give one a shot. Been playing Shadowrun for years, though. So, well--If you can clue me in just a tad as to how PbP works and would be willing to give a virgen PbP-er a shot, and you have the space, I'd love to hop in.

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post Aug 29 2005, 08:04 AM
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I'm not sure this game is going to move forward due to lack of interest. It's not your average Shadowrun game since it takes place so early in the timeline and magic/cyberware are not available yet. Bear that in mind if you're planning on playing in this one.

As far as I can remember, we had an Engineer Sergeant spot available, and a Weapons Sergeant spot available, and an Intelligence/Operations Sergeant spot available.

Interest has been low. There are always new games popping up on here though, so you should be able to find more "conventional" shadowrun games in the future. As to being new with PbP games, I would reccomend reading through some of the IC and OOC threads for the games and checking out how the players and GM's operate. I'm not trying to shut you down, just I don't think this run is gonna get off the ground.

My other game that is going on right now is the Stardust run, but mine are hardly representative of the norm IMO.
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post Aug 29 2005, 08:11 AM
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Yeah I read through your Stardust threads jsut because I was trying to get a feel for how you GM in case I got into this game. I like your style. Very narrative, and that's a good thing.

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post Aug 29 2005, 08:37 AM
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Oh and since this one is pretty much dead, I'll post the warning order I made up for the team.
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