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Phoniex
post Aug 19 2005, 05:08 PM
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Hello from the CON:)

I just wanted to ask what is up with the black kilts from all the SR players?

Also, *crosses fingers* SR4 should be out today at 10, yes its noon now, but I am just getting up after staying up til 5 playing in the corporate ghost game.

So far gencon has been a blast!

To the genconmoble! to quest after the elusive book ;)
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post Aug 19 2005, 05:13 PM
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Can't you just feel the hate? :noflame: :noflame: :noflame:
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post Aug 19 2005, 05:27 PM
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Kill him.
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post Aug 19 2005, 05:31 PM
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Oh, no, we all love it. We're just giving it tough love.

What? This Ares Alpha? No, it's not to cause harm. It's to celebrate. Here, let me show you.

*Empties a celebratory clip into Gencon, followed by 8 celebratory grenades*

See? You can just hear the people screaming at how much they love the celebration.
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post Aug 19 2005, 05:53 PM
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Nothing says "party" like a dozen WP grenades liberally spread amongst the crowd.

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post Aug 19 2005, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE (Penta)
Kill him.

Stop. Reading. My. Mind. ;)
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post Aug 19 2005, 06:17 PM
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Been there and back.

NO fucking Limited Editions!!! So I paid $27 (Con entrance fee for 1 day) + $10 (parking) + wasted fuel driving a hundred and some miles... All to buy a crappy book for another $35.
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post Aug 19 2005, 06:18 PM
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Ha ha ha, Fanpro ROCKS! :sarcasm:
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post Aug 19 2005, 06:20 PM
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You got it? Then why aren´t you writing a 4000 letter post telling us about it? :)
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post Aug 19 2005, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE (tisoz)
Been there and back.

NO fucking Limited Editions!!! So I paid $27 (Con entrance fee for 1 day) + $10 (parking) + wasted fuel driving a hundred and some miles... All to buy a crappy book for another $35.

Do you have any idea of what happened to the LE?
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post Aug 19 2005, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE (JongWK)
QUOTE (tisoz @ Aug 19 2005, 03:17 PM)
Been there and back.

NO fucking Limited Editions!!!  So I paid $27 (Con entrance fee for 1 day) + $10 (parking) + wasted fuel driving a hundred and some miles...  All to buy a crappy book for another $35.

Do you have any idea of what happened to the LE?

Not back from printers?
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post Aug 19 2005, 06:26 PM
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You got it? Then why aren´t you writing a 4000 letter post telling us about it? :)

I decided to skim it during lunch and am reeling in shock.

I'll try to go through threads and answer speculations, or ask me something specific and I'll check it.
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post Aug 19 2005, 06:27 PM
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That.... doesn't sound good.
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post Aug 19 2005, 06:28 PM
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I hope it arrives during the weekend (in time for the Con, at least).

If not, damn. :(
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post Aug 19 2005, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE (tisoz)
ask me something specific and I'll check it.

What's up with the Commlink operating systems?

(If you'd like a more specific, shorter-answer question, how many are there and what mechanical differences between them exist?)

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post Aug 19 2005, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE (Spookymonster)
That.... doesn't sound good.

Well, I like playing shamen and they seemed to take it in the ass the hardest.

Btw, the first piece of fiction uses fuck, fuck, fuck and asshole instead of frag or other expletives like hoophead. So much for garnering that younger audience if parents skim that part, or the topless chick on page 44 wearing a couple band-aids across her nipples.

On the powergamer front, adepts look to be as powerful as ever and with the way the powers work and are priced, they look like they will rule.
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post Aug 19 2005, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
QUOTE (tisoz @ Aug 19 2005, 01:26 PM)
ask me something specific and I'll check it.

What's up with the Commlink operating systems?

(If you'd like a more specific, shorter-answer question, how many are there and what mechanical differences between them exist?)

~J

Just read that part about everyone having them before I started posting. Got referred to a section about "what every shadowrunner should know"


9 different models that have different Response and Signal ratings and costs. Evidently, any electronic device can have IC. They all leave trails (Please note this info is from quickly skimming 3 different sections.)

PS: saw some obvious mistakes for erratta. Cyberlimb cost went down but still 1 point of essence.
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post Aug 19 2005, 06:42 PM
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What exactly about Shaman characters made them
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post Aug 19 2005, 06:44 PM
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Are there any (noteworthy) SR3 -> 4 conversion rules?

They would give (us all) the most change overview in the chargen system I guess ... or pretty close.
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post Aug 19 2005, 06:45 PM
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My money is on the change in the magic system. The one reason I played a shaman over a mage was easy availability of spirits. That may have changed.
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post Aug 19 2005, 06:45 PM
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How does armor work? Does it really just convert lethal damage into stun?

What are the metahuman stat modifers now?

Can you give a few examples of what the new ranged combat modifiers look like? (like for cover, or dim light, and so on)

Do technomancers need an electronic device of some sort to access the matrix, or do they just use their minds?

Are there any guidelines for playing games of various power levels? Is there any conversion info?

How does the new Dodge work?
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post Aug 19 2005, 06:48 PM
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Okay, his post on magic on the magic thread:

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I was pretty much on target with my guess on spirit types.

All full magicians can conjure earth, air, water, and spirits of man. That's 4. Hermetic can conjure fire spirits while shamen can conjure spirits of beasts.

It costs to be magically active, then it costs some more to have a totem.
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post Aug 19 2005, 06:51 PM
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That makes… no… sense…

Ah well.

When you get the chance, I'd like more info on the "trails" that these devices leave. No rush, though—thanks for the intel.

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post Aug 19 2005, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE (Overwatch)
What exactly about Shaman characters made them
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It costs more to play them with a totem. A mage can do almost exactly the same thing, fire spirits look a bit more useful than beast spirits. The variety and numerical difference of spirits is gone. Have not looked to see about the shamanic mask, if it only applies if the shaman has a totem.

Magic in general got screwed compared to any other skill type set. They combined other peoples needed skills while making the magicians need more skills to do the same. Making magicians a bigger karma sink.

Compared to adepts, who seem to benefit from all the rule changes.
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post Aug 19 2005, 07:16 PM
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must wait until tomorrow ... must resist urge to leave work and drive to Indy ... must resist inevitable pull of Indiana ....


Never thought I'd say that :D
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