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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 17-April 05 Member No.: 7,341  |
This is not to flame, not for revenge or whatever.... just to know your feeling as we have now (and it was time) more information.
By the way, once again, many thanks to Tisoz, who is on his way to become Man of the Year on DS board... :) |
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Aug 19 2005, 10:53 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 338 Joined: 17-September 04 From: Pueblo Sector of Denver Member No.: 6,672 |
At the moment the only thing I'm nervous about is technomancers, everything else looks sweet.
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Aug 19 2005, 10:54 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 422 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Columbus, OH Member No.: 875 |
I agree. If it only costs 5 BP to be one, I can't imagine anyone choosing a non-magical character not being a Technomancer. Seems too good to be true. |
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Aug 19 2005, 10:55 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 17-April 05 Member No.: 7,341 |
Who would have the kindness to create new threads to summarize all the information that Tisoz provided us, instead of having them in 3 or 4 different threads ? It might be great also to divide the topics in fact (chargen, magician, technomancer, cyber)... I would have done that myself, but I am quiet busy on our french forum to translate and post the information that are on DS...
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Aug 19 2005, 10:58 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
A huge number of questions openned up with that info. I can't really answer now till i get a better look. I'm going to have to keep the vote on the fence for a bit yet.
Near the top of the list of questions are Technomancers. It seems more than a bit wierd, but then i just noticed something on the Combat Mage that actually could help explain it. I'm not certain that a mundane even needs 'ware to hack, they might be able to do it with 'trodes alone. If that is true not requiring 'ware for Technomancers sort of makes sense, at least when they are hacking wireless equipment. |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:01 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
or maybe, they generate signals with brain radios.
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Aug 19 2005, 11:03 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 338 Joined: 17-September 04 From: Pueblo Sector of Denver Member No.: 6,672 |
So they all wear tinfoil hats when they don't want to broadcast? Don't make me come in there :rotfl: |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:05 PM
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Jacked In, Up & Out Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 232 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Oceanside, CA Member No.: 95 |
Oh, role playing reasons, maybe? Since it appears that not everyone in 2070 is a technomancer, or even more so, most people aren't? Derek |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:05 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 338 Joined: 17-September 04 From: Pueblo Sector of Denver Member No.: 6,672 |
See, I still think some hardcore people would want their wireless equipment implanted. Say someone who was so amazingly good at it they had "unnatural" skill? |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 17-April 05 Member No.: 7,341 |
I was thinking to something about Technomancers...
Of course, the BP is ridiculously low, but on the other hand, it might be really expensive (Skills, sprites etc.) to be a technomancer.. on the other hand, there might be some cons (remember, otaku shouldn't be able to pass the age of 18 with all their pros)... SO in the end, one of the main pro of being a Technomancer might just be the fact that you don't need any cyber... which in the end is not such a big pro if hacker can still do their "work" using wireless equipment... And if they can have less BP to invest in matrice-skills (no sprites etc...). |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 338 Joined: 17-September 04 From: Pueblo Sector of Denver Member No.: 6,672 |
Maybe their frail or socially inept like otkau, and that makes up for them being cheap? |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:17 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
Technomancers have to buy Resonance attribute, remember (the 5 BP is just the Quality that allows them to do so).
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Aug 19 2005, 11:20 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 17-April 05 Member No.: 7,341 |
That is a good point, but if the dev really focused this edition on technology, they might in the end prove as powerful as magicians, not only in the matrice, but in the real world... And this would have costed only 5BP... this is why I hope that there are some restrictions...
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Aug 19 2005, 11:24 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Also we know that Technomancers experience drain (except it is called Fading and not Drain).
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Aug 19 2005, 11:25 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
Yep. Age no longer causes fading, or so it seems.
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Aug 19 2005, 11:25 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Do they get the first point free with that? If not it is basically the same price as a mage since the first point would cost them the 10BP for a total of 15BP. |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:29 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
That's because they *are* different. :)
Sorry if I can help you more with that. I don't have my playtesting notes at hand, and I don't feel comfortable giving you second hand information when Tisoz and the others at GenCon are posting good information. |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:34 PM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,944 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
Buy the Technomancer Quality and start with Resonance attribute of 1. It goes down with loss of essence just like magic attribute. |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:57 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 338 Joined: 17-September 04 From: Pueblo Sector of Denver Member No.: 6,672 |
So what helps Otaku hurts grown up Otaku? That's why they all faded? |
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Aug 20 2005, 12:18 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
It helps to consider them seperate, but related, creatures. Not all otaku became technomancers and not all technomancers were otaku. |
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Aug 20 2005, 12:20 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 338 Joined: 17-September 04 From: Pueblo Sector of Denver Member No.: 6,672 |
Is that for sure? Because the description we got was "Otaku who grew up" |
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Aug 20 2005, 12:22 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
Some did. Others didn't.
*wishes System Failure was already out* |
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Aug 20 2005, 12:22 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
Where did that description come from? I do know for sure that not all technomancers are otaku that grew up.
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Aug 20 2005, 12:41 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 338 Joined: 17-September 04 From: Pueblo Sector of Denver Member No.: 6,672 |
If I call correctly it was the discritpion given in one of the first previews given by the German site. |
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Aug 20 2005, 12:44 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Could be a translation issue then? |
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