 Ask tisoz about SR4, like it's got a chance of making me MoY |
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 Aug 19 2005, 11:29 PM
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Free Spirit  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,950 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920  |
If you have some questions about SR4 I will try to answer them.
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Aug 19 2005, 11:30 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
Did heard anything new about the Limited Edition? (i.e., will it make it for the weekend)
Can you give people stats for a standard piece cyberware? (say, the much beloved Wired Reflexes 2) How about a list of the megas? (not asking you to leak the plot surprises, just name them) |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:32 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
How are shot rounds for shotguns treated?
~J |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:33 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,498 Joined: 4-August 05 From: ADL Member No.: 7,534 |
What does the "P" in the 5P of the Predator mean ?
Can you give us a short example calculation of a shot ? (Complete with hitting, dodging and resisting damage) |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:33 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Will it make my teeth whiter? :D
Also, did they leave out equipment weights? |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:33 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
The "P" stands for Physical. "S" is for Stun. |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:34 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 17-April 05 Member No.: 7,341 |
Yes, I have only two questions (so far) :
- What is your think about the art in the book (I know it is subjective, and that what I might like could look aweful for you and vice versa), but I would have liked to have an opinion... - More details if you could on the differences between hackers and technomancers as you have already addressed magicians, and cyber... Many thanks in advance, and of course, don't feel obliged, just if you have some time. |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:36 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,498 Joined: 4-August 05 From: ADL Member No.: 7,534 |
So, how much base damageboxes does a 5P Predator with AP -1 to a 6/4 lined coat ? zero ? |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:38 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 297 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 248 |
How's the BP cost for the different races now?
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Aug 19 2005, 11:39 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
1) The coat would add 5 (not 6) dice to the resistance roll.
2) Base damage would be the DV + net hits on attack test, minus hits on resistance test. |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 17-April 05 Member No.: 7,341 |
@ darkness : already given. If I can remember ) for a human, 20 for an ork, 25 for a dwarf, 30 for an elf and 40 for a troll
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Aug 19 2005, 11:41 PM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,950 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
Are you going?
Wired 2, essence 3, capacity - n/a, availability 16R (not avialable under standard chargen rules of availability 12), 32,000 nuyen
Ares, Aztechnology, Evo Corp, Horizon, Mitsuhama, NeoNet, Renraku, Saeder-Krupp, Shiawase, Wuxing |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:43 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,498 Joined: 4-August 05 From: ADL Member No.: 7,534 |
so let me get that right:
I score 3 net hits (pistols versus dodging) with my predator (5p -1) against a lined coat guy. This gives me a basic damage of 5+3=8 boxes and he can resist with body+5 dice. The -1 AP modifier is only for checking for stun or physical damage. Right, wrong ? |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:43 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
Me? Maybe in 2006 or 2007. *sigh* Seriously, I simply know some people who went there and might not be happy to hear about this. :dead: This post has been edited by JongWK: Aug 19 2005, 11:46 PM |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:44 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Oh, and Defaulting, pg 110. What is up with that?
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Aug 19 2005, 11:47 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
It's also for reducing the Armor dice. The 6 ballistic armor on the lined coat becomes 5 bonus dice instead of 6 for the defender. But yeah, your example looks about right. |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:49 PM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,950 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
They have 3 different spreads, narrow, medium, and wide. They can shoot only 1, 2, or 3 targets within a meter of each other respectively. Damage code gets modified for each, defense roll gets different modifier for each, harder to dodge wider spread. |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:51 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,498 Joined: 4-August 05 From: ADL Member No.: 7,534 |
damn thats nasty.
Seems like very hard to reduce damage on the one hand and extremely hard to kill with one shot on the other. Edit: No I think its close to impossible to kill with one shot of the predator. Anybody disagree ? |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:56 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
Me.
You probably need an above-average roll, but it's perfectly doable. Add in Edge and it can become downright nasty. |
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Aug 19 2005, 11:57 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,498 Joined: 4-August 05 From: ADL Member No.: 7,534 |
Dont just disagree, elaborate with some numbers please.
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Aug 20 2005, 12:00 AM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,950 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
yep, P is Physical. Declare attack, apply situational modifiers, make opposed test, Compare armor, damage resistance test, apply damage. Ranged combat summary: attacker rolls Agility + combat skill +/- modifiers defender rolls reaction +/- modifiers (defender using full defense rolls Reaction + Dodge +/- modifiers) DV modifiers: net hits, ammunition, autofire Armor used: ballistic or impact Condition monitor used Physical or Stun Really I would need to play this through and look up a lot of exact numbers and learn the rules, maybe a playtester can give a good example. Or give me a situation and I'll get to it when I can. [edit Thanks [/edit] This post has been edited by tisoz: Aug 20 2005, 12:28 AM |
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Aug 20 2005, 12:02 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,507 Joined: 27-January 05 From: ...and I'm all out of bubblegum Member No.: 7,021 |
!!! Daaam, Rob Boyle wasn't kidding about 'reshuffling'. |
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Aug 20 2005, 12:02 AM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,950 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
nothing could get your teeth whiter. :D no weights. |
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Aug 20 2005, 12:03 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
Suppose an average Agility 3 and Pistols 3. Human, so above average Edge (4)
Smartlink (+2) Specialization (+2) Take Aim (+1) That's 15 dice off the top of my head, plus Rule of Six. Make him a pro and it gets better. Add explosive or EX explosive ammo, of course. I know there are penalties, but this is just to give you an idea of how many dice you can throw at the other guy. ;) |
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Aug 20 2005, 12:03 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 17-April 05 Member No.: 7,341 |
Basically, the shooter will throw 6 dices (attr+skill) and do 2 successes. Does the shooted have the right to dodge ? that is my first question, and does he dodge using his attribute also ?
Let's consider that no in my example... this means 7 cases on the monitor. The resistance roll will be of 8 dices... with an average 2-3 successes. Which means that the shooted will have lost 4-5 cases on his monitor, almost half his cases. And -1 modifier to his action.... |
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