 Shadowrun 4 Errata, Post errors you've noticed here, please |
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 Dec 28 2005, 05:53 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 31-October 03 Member No.: 5,780  |
well, from what I read on the fake sin, it sounded like it constantly checks it. The matrix has to keep track of your nuyen globally, after all. the reason for the risk was (supposedly) the fact it has to go through so many things to confirm and do the transaction that agents and legit systems might notice the errors, and bite your ID.
Mind you, what you say also makes sense too; if it can be confirmed with a few page numbers, even better! ^-^ and there are some shadowrunners that are SINners and quite legit - they're bounty hunters, corp people, etc. what you do on some corps turf doesn't mean squat to the law, just their law. |
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Dec 28 2005, 06:13 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 914 Joined: 26-August 05 From: Louisville, KY (Well, Memphis, IN technically but you won't know where that is.) Member No.: 7,626 |
This is a valid point. How many debit transactions below, say, 500Y will really require a security check? Today IRL you can go to fast food places and swipe a credit card for food and not have to sign anything as long as it is less than $20.
Perhaps scanners should be a rarity, at least for Joe Schmoe activities. Donald Trump won't buy anything that doesn't require at least a rating:5 scanner; he has flunkies handle all smaller purchases. Rating - Purchase
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Dec 28 2005, 07:48 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
The SIN issue was in discussion pages ago.
If using the SIN rating as a threshold for the scanner, this produces much better results. |
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Dec 29 2005, 03:52 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 22-December 05 Member No.: 8,092 |
Well, I recently received a 1st print run copy of the Shadowrun 4E book, and there's a serious problem with the pages in the Magic and Matrix sections. My book goes to page 193 without a problem, then has pages numbered as follows: 178, 179, 196, 197, 182, 183, 200, 201, 186, 187, 204, 205, 190, 191...then proceeds normally from 208.
This means I'm completely missing pages 194, 195, 198, 199, 202, 203, 206, and 207. :( Is there any exchange program for these faulty books? |
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Dec 29 2005, 05:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 18-November 05 Member No.: 7,978 |
Just yours. Mine does not do that at all, and it is a first print run.
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Dec 29 2005, 07:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 914 Joined: 26-August 05 From: Louisville, KY (Well, Memphis, IN technically but you won't know where that is.) Member No.: 7,626 |
I got mine at Gencon (as first print as it gets) and it is complete. I seem to recall there were a few misprints that got through the printer's QA/QC that Bull was using for the demos.
If you bought it at a store you should be able to exchange it there; if you direct ordered it contact Fanpro and they should take care of you. |
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Jan 1 2006, 07:37 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 22-December 05 Member No.: 8,092 |
Well, it was a Christmas gift bought from the Lone Star Comics in Texas...and I live in Colorado, so taking it back isn't really feasible. I sent an email to info@shadowrunrpg.com. We'll see what happens. |
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Jan 3 2006, 09:48 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 22-December 05 From: Trois-Rivières, Republic du Québec Member No.: 8,094 |
I will ask someting big, but someone have made a files with all the errata found for now. Because the files in the shadowrun page is outdate.
(ver.1.1 for http://www.shadowrunrpg.com/resources/sr4/..._errata_v11.pdf ) Thank for the reply (smile) :rotfl: |
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Jan 3 2006, 11:41 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
Version 1.3 has just been posted. Thanks to everyone who helped out posting errors and keeping them nicely confined to this thread.
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Jan 4 2006, 12:10 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 349 Joined: 16-January 05 Member No.: 6,984 |
Awesome, will a new copy of the PDF also be released?
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Jan 4 2006, 12:29 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Everyone together now. "Thank you Adam."
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Jan 4 2006, 12:53 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
Yes. Exact timeframe unknown. So I'm going to say "soon," because it's such a stretchy fun word! |
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Jan 4 2006, 01:54 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
Thank you, FanPro.
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Jan 4 2006, 04:48 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 715 Joined: 4-September 05 From: Metaplane GEPLK136 (The one with the lizards. You remember the lizards, don't you?) Member No.: 7,684 |
Woohoo, new errata! From the errata:
Ouch.
Excellent! I always felt rating 4 SINs were more appropriate for characters whose backgrounds reflect more in-depth fake identities. |
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Jan 4 2006, 05:58 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,219 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lofwyr's stomach. Member No.: 1,320 |
Spirit reflexes are updated! yay!
Skill caps receive some clarity! |
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Jan 4 2006, 02:05 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,222 Joined: 11-October 02 From: Netherlands and Belgium Member No.: 3,437 |
Very small typo on page 168.
I believe the 'or learned' is in error (since spells aren't learned in forces). |
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Jan 5 2006, 01:06 AM
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Decker on the Threshold Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,922 Joined: 14-March 04 Member No.: 6,156 |
Don't know if this is errata or not, but Hush and Silence really ought to be in the same category as the Shadow spell, as they do the same thing to different mediums (sound vs. light), just like Stealth and Invisability do the same thing to different senses. Either make them both Manipulations or make them both Illusions.
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Jan 5 2006, 09:33 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,222 Joined: 11-October 02 From: Netherlands and Belgium Member No.: 3,437 |
The problem is the Light Spell, Illusions don't create actual Light, that's the field of Manipulation. So Shadow (anti-light) would fall under Manipulation because of that. Hush and Silence are not effecting physical energy sources though.
However, my personal opinion is that both Light and Shadow should fall under Illusions, I think with the changes to Manipulation, those two spells should have been converted. Sphynx |
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Jan 5 2006, 09:36 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
Sound is a form of energy. |
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Jan 5 2006, 10:03 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,222 Joined: 11-October 02 From: Netherlands and Belgium Member No.: 3,437 |
Very true, Paul, but that's not what I said. Hush and Silence are not effecting Physical Energy sources, they're creating illusions of no-sound. They are the 'sound' versions of Invisibility, not the 'sound' version of Shadow. The 'sound' version of Shadow would fall under Manipulation and be something like 'White Noise'.
Sphynx |
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Jan 5 2006, 10:56 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
Silence is a physical spell and it's description says it "damps sound" It affects technological devices and protects against technological sonic weapons. Since a sonic weapon uses sound to deliver it's energy to the target, I'd say that yes it is affecting physical energy by way of nullifying it. YMMV. |
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Jan 5 2006, 03:06 PM
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Decker on the Threshold Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,922 Joined: 14-March 04 Member No.: 6,156 |
Right, I guess I agree with Sphynx then, in that Light and Shadow should be Illusion spells. For me it's just about consistency of approach: if two spells are very similar in nature and in "how" they work, they probably should be classified in the same "school".
Similarly I'd much rather the Stealth spell work more like a sound version of Invisability, rather than the quirky personalized version of Silence that it is currently. Maybe Ignite should be an Indirect Combat spell as well? |
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Jan 5 2006, 03:20 PM
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Decker on the Threshold Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,922 Joined: 14-March 04 Member No.: 6,156 |
Oh, and another question: what implants and magic actually increase a skill rating? So far everything I've looked at provide a dice pool modifier to a test involving a specific skill, which I guess would be interpreted as bonus dice and not a modified skill rating. So, other than Improved Ability where the wording has been specifically changed in the errata to make the skill cap apply, where *does* that rule apply?
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Jan 5 2006, 03:32 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Reflex Recorders - see Errata.
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Jan 6 2006, 02:45 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 54 Joined: 11-December 05 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Member No.: 8,061 |
The rule for using First Aid on yourself seems to be a little confusing. On page 242 under "Using First Aid":
Huh? Of course they do. To me this means one of two things. 1) Characters who are wounded and apply first aid to someone else don't apply their wound modifiers - this would go against a specific rule and is just plain silly. 2) The line is meant to read "Characters using First Aid on themselves must apply TWICE their wound modifiers to the test." This makes up nicely for the difficulty of trying to patch that hole in you own liver. Comments? |
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