 Shadowrun 4 Errata, Post errors you've noticed here, please |
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 Sep 1 2005, 03:15 PM
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Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263  |
"Characters in Shadowrun have up to 12 attributes." Now bring in someone to edit that, but first have them pull an 95 hour week. Then watch it change to become incorrect. |
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Sep 1 2005, 03:55 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
thats an incorrect statement? are we talking gramattically, or SR'ly? I'm reading it as that, a character in shadowrun, may have up to 12 attributes, not, in shadowrun, there ARE 12 attributes... |
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Sep 1 2005, 04:13 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Once again, the exact wording is ...
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Sep 1 2005, 04:19 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
NM, i just read the whole paragraph. Somebody just flat out humped the math. And it needs to be fixed in three spots, not just one:
There are twelve attributes in Shadowrun, though each character has just ten or sometimes eleven. EDIT: :wobble: I see that now Fortune, i missed that part of hansoo's where it was mentioned. |
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Sep 1 2005, 04:51 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,662 |
Maybe just my opinion, but I'm curious why the attribute table in character creation lists racial min/max values for Initiative instead of Edge, since the former is a derived attribute. I think a column for Edge would be more helpful.
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Sep 1 2005, 04:55 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 23-August 05 Member No.: 7,590 |
Page 337, spurs are listed with a reach of 1, which seems strange on its own, but stranger still when you see that forearm snap-blades still have a reach of 0. (Sorry if it's already been mentioned. I didn't have time to read the whole thread carefully.)
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Sep 1 2005, 08:00 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
The Ultrasound sensor implant is listed on p. 331 under Headware - shouldn't it be listed on p. 332 under Eyeware?
And likewise, shouldn't Protective Covers on p. 332 only be listed once, rather than twice, under Eyeware and Cosmetics? |
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Sep 1 2005, 08:29 PM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
Fanpro is going to revise the book before they print it right? This is a crap load of errors.
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Sep 1 2005, 08:36 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
I don't work for FanPro, but I'd hazard a guess to say it's too late to revise the first print run. The next print run will incorporate the errata that FanPro has identified up to that point. However, the PDFs don't have to wait on the constraints of print runs, and already incorporate the errata that they've identified.
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Sep 1 2005, 08:53 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
They were selling books at GenCon. Not just the LE, but standard ones as well. |
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Sep 1 2005, 09:33 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,662 |
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Sep 1 2005, 09:35 PM
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Mr. Quote-function Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,317 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Somewhere in Germany Member No.: 1,376 |
This is more like a question than actual Errata stuff:
This would mean that a camo suit imposes a -3 (or possibily even more since the negative mod is calculated once "either" armor type exceeds bod*2 which could be interpreted as 8-3 = 5 and 6-3 = 3 .. a total of 8 Points, that can lead to -4 or -5 *see below*) on Agility on a bod 3 person. Could it be that it has to be for every 2 points (or fraction thereof) that his body*2 is exceeded? And while we're at it: What about a (sofar hypthetical) 5/5 armor on a bod 2 person? - 4 or -3 (i.e. Are those points above body simply added *here 6 points* or are the negative modifiers calculated independantly)? |
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Sep 1 2005, 09:42 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 338 Joined: 17-September 04 From: Pueblo Sector of Denver Member No.: 6,672 |
On page 228
Should be
As far as I can tell. |
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Sep 1 2005, 10:10 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 23-August 05 Member No.: 7,591 |
Page 136 says you can only take 1 Long Burst per Action phase.
Page 144 says you can only take 1 Long Burst per Action phase. Page 140's chart gives you recoil modifier for a second Long Burst per Action phase (Unless of course I'm completely wrong about how Recoil works). |
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Sep 1 2005, 10:13 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Not an error. You CAN only fire one Long Burst in an action phase. However, you can choose to fire it as your first Simple Action or as your second Simple Action. The recoil modifiers shown only deal with whichever action you decide to use your long burst, and is cumulative with the previous shot. In effect, recoil is counted as (Bullets fired so far in the Action Phase - 1).
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Sep 1 2005, 11:14 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,662 |
Table on page 145, entry for Bow: info needs to be shifted to the right.
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Sep 2 2005, 01:06 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 639 Joined: 22-April 02 Member No.: 2,638 |
Concealability table, p.302:
Machine pistols are less concealable than heavy pistols? Swords and katana have different ratings? Clubs and stun batons have different ratings? Bows and shotguns are missing? |
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Sep 2 2005, 01:41 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,662 |
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Sep 2 2005, 03:21 AM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
doomclaw, those aren't typos.... Thats the WoTC "gender dis-identification" program, instituted to be politically correct, and to confuse players... please, carry on citizen |
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Sep 2 2005, 03:25 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,662 |
Gender confusion and poor grammar are not politically correct.
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Sep 2 2005, 03:29 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
What's next, "sie" and "hir"?
~J |
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Sep 2 2005, 03:32 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 807 Joined: 9-October 04 Member No.: 6,741 |
Nope. It's "shi" and "hir", and there's a third one I don't pretend to remember.
I know someone who plays a chakat on Furcadia and decided to explain it to me. I'll never look at centaurs the same way again. |
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Sep 2 2005, 03:43 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,662 |
Oh how I wish I could believe or understand that. |
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Sep 2 2005, 03:53 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
If you don't understand it, BE GLAD. |
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Sep 2 2005, 03:53 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Those two are definitely in there. The entire effort is a sorry fragmented mess, so I don't doubt that your version is correct as well (to the degree that any of it is). Xie is another version. ~J |
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