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blakkie
post Aug 31 2005, 02:08 AM
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No stress here; since returning from GenCon I've finished SR4 in PDF [with corrections], finished another book in PDF, just about sent another book to press, started writing work on another book, chased down a very late artist for yet another book, and done some noodling about on various other sundry projects.

And I've caught up on missed sleep, had the chance to read some stuff I picked up at GenCon, and quite frankly, I'm on top of the fucking world. smile.gif


Can i call Bullshit on this? I say the first paragrap completely nullifies any chance of the second, more enjoyable list of things ever being accomplished in te same time period.

He must have bought a fresh supply of NERPS at GenCon. NERPS, is there anything they can't do for you?

P.S. Adam, one of those other projects that you've completed your work on wouldn't happen to be System Failure?
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post Aug 31 2005, 02:10 AM
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So when will it be released?
Any idea? :-)

PS: Thx for the info...

How about we satisfy ourselves with "soon" for now? :grinbig: It's not like the online stores will run out of SR4 pdf's. But yeah, I'm curious too. ;)
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post Aug 31 2005, 02:25 AM
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My guess, sometime tomorrow.
eh, c'est la vie.
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post Aug 31 2005, 03:06 AM
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No stress here. It's finished and ready for launch.

Oh, by the way, could you tell us how big the file will be?
Thanks.

Mike
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post Aug 31 2005, 03:21 AM
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If i have a computer I use at home and at work, would I need to purchase two  copies to see at both work and at home? I've never purchased a .pdf before and am not sure.

No. Both BattleCorps and DriveThruRPG provide standard PDF files that you can backup to CD, move to flash drives, copy to your laptop, etc.

Thanks Adam.
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post Aug 31 2005, 04:05 AM
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QUOTE (Aku)
[quote-adam]
No stress here; since returning from GenCon I've finished SR4 in PDF [with corrections], finished another book in PDF, just about sent another book to press, started writing work on another book, chased down a very late artist for yet another book, and done some noodling about on various other sundry projects.

And I've caught up on missed sleep, had the chance to read some stuff I picked up at GenCon, and quite frankly, I'm on top of the fucking world. smile.gif[/quote]

Can i call Bullshit on this? I say the first paragrap completely nullifies any chance of the second, more enjoyable list of things ever being accomplished in te same time period.

Speaking from the perspective of someone who has had to work 18+ hour days for months at a time to fend off obscenely demanding deadlines, I can say one thing...

Just because you have no time, doesn't mean you can't find time to relax. To work? Well, that's trickier. But to relax? Always possible to squeeze that in.

And there's nothing wrong with it either. Perfectly healthy. :)

In fact, anything less would be anything but.

Winter
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post Aug 31 2005, 06:51 AM
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Please stop being so negative... The PDF is done, and ready for release.

Now i just have to wait 18 hours, until i get to my private computer and hopefully it is ready for purchase'n'download.
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post Aug 31 2005, 07:01 AM
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@Adam: Thanks so very much for finishing.

But ... I am desperate to get that pdf - who do I need to bribe?
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post Aug 31 2005, 07:09 AM
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time.
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post Aug 31 2005, 07:23 AM
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The pdf is available currently through Battlecorps. Just got mine for $25.


:)
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post Aug 31 2005, 07:24 AM
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We're live.

PDF: $25.00 - http://battlecorps.com/catalog/product_inf...roducts_id=1617
PDF/Book Combo: $54.99 - http://battlecorps.com/catalog/product_inf...roducts_id=1618
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post Aug 31 2005, 08:47 AM
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Downloading mine as I type this! WOOT! :D
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post Aug 31 2005, 09:30 AM
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Thank you Adam and whatever powers made this possible in the end!!!

Donīt want to sound negative in this glorious moment, but time was sort of running out if you wanted me to by a copy. And you got my money now, so I donīt see why you wouldnīt.
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post Aug 31 2005, 11:32 AM
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Missed it by that much....
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post Aug 31 2005, 01:25 PM
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SCORE!!!! *WOOT* Right in time for game day and I have the entire day off to print, bound and read it sweet... really should say this but god loves me today with his rain.

SCORE!!!
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post Aug 31 2005, 01:59 PM
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Thank you Adam and whatever powers made this possible in the end!!!

Donīt want to sound negative in this glorious moment, but time was sort of running out if you wanted me to by a copy. And you got my money now, so I donīt see why you wouldnīt.

Agreed
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post Aug 31 2005, 02:01 PM
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Thank you Adam and whatever powers made this possible in the end!!!

Yeah, me too! :)

Adam seems to become the first people working in the rpg industry to get his own fanclub. ;)
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post Aug 31 2005, 04:14 PM
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Yes! I really, really shouldn't spend the money... but PDF + Print combo? Sold. :D
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post Aug 31 2005, 08:06 PM
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Adam, if I could, I'd send you money just because. You worked hard, worked long, and didn't snap at people complaining about the fact it's not done yet.

Oh, I'm sad to say Adam is far from the first person to have a fanclub in the RPG world. That would be Gary Gygax.
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post Aug 31 2005, 08:10 PM
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You may know the first person to have a fanclub, but do you know the first RPG to have a martial arts system?

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post Aug 31 2005, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE (Sabosect @ Aug 31 2005, 02:06 PM)
Adam, if I could, I'd send you money just because. You worked hard, worked long, and didn't snap at people complaining about the fact it's not done yet.

Oh, I'm sad to say Adam is far from the first person to have a fanclub in the RPG world. That would be Gary Gygax.

You do know he is a cranky, flaky old fart that likes trolling? Not just boards, but everywhere. Which makes it hard to judge how serious he is about his game design views. Views that basically boil down to "the more unbalanced, the more munchkin friendly, the r33ter".

Gygax that is. Adam isn't so old.

P.S. I think Gygax is hilarios. :)
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post Aug 31 2005, 09:11 PM
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To be honest, Gygax is the poster child of vengeful DMing. His original DnD games were absolute killers to the players, so much that it's not surprising how he has ended up.

However, Gygax has basically been replaced by Skip Williams, who has so much of an overactive ego he has actually advised people to do things that directly contradicted the stated rules of the very books he helped write, resulting in him being outright attacked and at least three groups I know of breaking up because of the resulting fights. That, combined with actions by Nintendo when it comes to the Zelda series and a few other companies when it comes to games, is basically leading towards a trend of the makers of the games not being as important as the products when it comes to who has final say. I know quite a few DnD GMs who have outright ruled that unless it's in the books or in official errata, then it's just a houserule that they can safely ignore.

So, yeah, I do expect this to also pop up in SR in the future if FanPro keeps trying to draw in a larger audience. The problems with it amounts to the fact they'll be targetting these people who have been affected by such idiots as Skip Williams who will come on here with the attitude that what is officially in print is more important than what the designers have to say, and that if the designers have a problem with it they should get more errata out. Worse is that such people also, IME, tend to be far more inflexible when it comes to the rules and less willing to accept variations not covered in some book.

Anyway, back to my original point in what I was trying to say: Basically, Gygax is a joke and he knows it. Hell, I've actually emailed him to say such. I think, at this point, he started out doing that as a joke to poke fun at the whole problem people were having with game balance and has done it so long that he actually convinced himself the joke views are correct.
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post Aug 31 2005, 09:27 PM
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Anyway, back to my original point in what I was trying to say: Basically, Gygax is a joke and he knows it. Hell, I've actually emailed him to say such. I think, at this point, he started out doing that as a joke to poke fun at the whole problem people were having with game balance and has done it so long that he actually convinced himself the joke views are correct.

I'm not entirely convince it was that much exageration on his part to start with, though no doubt he is fully aware of it. Those Greyhawk icons were really just his ultra-highlevel toys for when he was on the player's side of the screen that he rolled into the background story. Complete with corny wordplay names.
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