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 Aug 30 2005, 02:50 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 9-October 04 Member No.: 6,738  |
All the recent hype about gas prices skyrocketing (well, it's not hype), got me to thinking. How would runners handle the fuel shortage? Would mage's with a spell that could cyphon liquid have a sharp increase in demand? Or would you have a slew of idiotic attempts to steal fuel by say, doing?using a lighter to see what your doing as you are cyphoning?
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Aug 30 2005, 02:56 AM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
Runners would just steal other people's cars. :)
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Aug 30 2005, 03:29 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,362 Joined: 3-October 03 From: Poway, San Diego County, CA, USA Member No.: 5,676 |
you hear the one about the guy who accidenally siphoned from the septic tank of an RV, and sucked too hard for too long?
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Aug 30 2005, 03:35 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,156 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Fresno, CalFree Member No.: 4,252 |
He was full of shit?
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Aug 30 2005, 03:36 AM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
yeah, I heard about that one. Heeheheh.
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Aug 30 2005, 11:30 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
I do not think this would be too much of a problem. with electric grid for comuter cars, fussion and fission plants for electric power and conversions like grain based fuels would make this less of a vital resource than it is today.
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Aug 30 2005, 12:40 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
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Aug 30 2005, 01:39 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
By 2030 in SR the world has experienced a global population "correction" that that does not take into account. ;) Also it doesn't take into account that SR has magic economics that already don't make sense in lot of ways. :wobble: P.S. While a lot of what they have to say on that site has a decent and sound basis, their doomsday predictions they have as a final conclusion is much more dubious as it makes assumptions about things being static that likely aren't going to be. For example there are enormous fossil fuel reserves world wide, including in NA, that have barely been dented. They just have a higher cost because the are so 'dirty' with sulfer and heavy metals that are more difficult to remove without burning. Perhaps you've heard of it? Coal. |
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Aug 30 2005, 01:46 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,028 Joined: 9-November 02 From: The Republic of Vermont Member No.: 3,581 |
Well, our real-world clean, safe, and plentiful option, nuclear fission, apparently makes treehugger spirits in Shadowrun's world unhappy, but...
Shadowrun has cost-effective fusion power. Shadowrun has batteries and fuel cells with prices and energy densities in the same ballpark as gasoline. Shadowrun has solar panels that collect impossible amounts of energy. Shadowrun has magicians that can tell the Laws of Thermodynamics to bugger off. Shadowrun has no energy shortage. |
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Aug 30 2005, 02:46 PM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
The Sixth World is looking better and better all the time.
<--------- Is very, very scared now. |
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Aug 30 2005, 07:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 176 Joined: 8-March 05 Member No.: 7,146 |
If you want a power shortage, just have some echo-terorist (you know, the kind that thinks climbing down out of the trees was a bad idea) start blowing up power plants (And thus throw massive amounts of toxins and polutants into the enviroment, but these people rarley think things through)
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Aug 30 2005, 07:14 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 458 Joined: 12-April 04 From: Lacey, Washington Member No.: 6,237 |
You could easily have an artificial oil shortage, however. A bunch of fuel producing megacorps decide that they want to get together and jack up the price across the board . . . This kind of stuff used to happen all the time a hundred years ago or so. Took decades to try to stamp it out, and Microsoft shows us it's still possible to do quite well as a monopolist.
That said, I think Shadowrunners would get involved in bootleg oil smuggling, fuel theft, illegal electrical grid access and all kinds of other fun stuff. Maybe even barter with Mr. Johnson to do the run in exchange for a few hundred liters of premium . . . :grinbig: |
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Aug 30 2005, 07:18 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Hundreds of years ago? Think again. Its called OPEC. |
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Aug 30 2005, 08:27 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,032 Joined: 6-August 04 Member No.: 6,543 |
Most of the OIl that comes to the US from outside sources comes from south America and theya re part of OPEC.... We go over tot he middle east to force OPEC to lower prices by the fact we have a big stick and if they don't we will beat them over th theead with it.
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Aug 31 2005, 02:45 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
No, no, it just makes the salamanders a little too happy. |
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Aug 31 2005, 03:09 AM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
Why does your choice of italicism make me start giggling in juvenile fasion? :) |
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Aug 31 2005, 03:14 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
'Cause I'm a poet, man, a frekkin' poet. That, or because you need more sleep, much more sleep (your giddy subconscious mind is imagining playing in the nuclear hell fire and the laughter is that manifestation). |
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Aug 31 2005, 03:31 AM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
I just woke up, though... Is the odd thing.
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Aug 31 2005, 11:39 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 9-October 04 Member No.: 6,738 |
Heh, thanks for the info on the SR universe. I must have missed that, but it does make sense that fossil fuels aren't as important as they used to be.
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