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> Otaku, Technoshamans -- what are they?
Chuckg
post Sep 4 2005, 03:32 AM
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Hi.

I was just wondering if the true nature and origins of the otaku, now technoshamans, had ever been explained in any Shadowrun book or supplement.

I own most of the 2e and 3e stuff, including Virtual Realities 2.0, Matrix, Renraku Arcology Shutdown, and Target: Matrix, and it didn't have what I was looking for, and I was wondering what supplement did, or if it was explained in one of the tie-in novels, or it was never explained at all.
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post Sep 4 2005, 03:48 AM
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It's mostly GM fiat.
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post Sep 4 2005, 04:00 AM
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otaku are first mentioned in the Denver boxed set. nobody knows their true nature, nor their origins.
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post Sep 4 2005, 04:05 AM
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Psychotrope suggested that otaku were created by the AI known alternately as Psychotrope and Mirage, but this doesn't seem to cover all otaku, much less technomancers.
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post Sep 4 2005, 04:10 AM
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It's technomancers, not technoshamans (who were a subset of Otaku). The indications are that Technomancers are either Otaku who didn't die during the Crash (many of them did) or folks who were transformed when they survived the Crash 2.0 (jacked in while the Matrix was going down). Could be the residual actions of the AIs, the Crash Dissonant worm, JackBNimble, etc. Or it could be an unintended consequence of the Dissonance and Resonance joining together, just like Pax planned. Who knows?
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post Sep 4 2005, 05:12 AM
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post Sep 4 2005, 05:23 AM
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post Sep 4 2005, 05:34 AM
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post Sep 4 2005, 05:40 AM
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The Matrix book lists them , doesn't it?
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post Sep 4 2005, 05:42 AM
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The two competing theories are:

Otaku are magic (bad)
Otaku are the next evolution of humans (Good)

I think I'm very biased on this one, so I might not be the person to ask.
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post Sep 4 2005, 05:50 AM
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That was System Failure (oh, sure, Matrix implied as much, but SF said it). Your brain is curdling. :P
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post Sep 4 2005, 06:37 AM
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QUOTE (Ancient History @ Sep 4 2005, 12:50 AM)
(oh, sure, Matrix implied as much, but SF said it). Your brain is curdling. :P

Erm, I just double-checked Matrix, on p150. It says:
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THE AIS OF SHADOWRUN
In 2061, three AIs exist in the world of Shadowrun.
There you have it.

Not that I disagree with your assessment that my brain is curdling. That sort of thing happens when you leave it out in the sun too long. :)
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post Sep 4 2005, 07:06 AM
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Lets see, there is Dues, Mirage, Magera

What about M-16 or whatever that has the tribe of pet otaku that must always have exatly 16 members?
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post Sep 4 2005, 07:35 AM
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Isis-9. that's unconfirmed and highly suspect, as the only people who support the claim are the tribe's own otaku.
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post Sep 4 2005, 07:39 AM
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QUOTE (mfb)
Isis-9. that's unconfirmed and highly suspect, as the only people who support the claim are the tribe's own otaku.

Isis-9 that's it. So the tribe is officaly crazy as of System faiulre? My group is gonna be surpised, a kid representing a ficticious entity gave them a lot of cred for a job.
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post Sep 4 2005, 07:54 AM
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Okay, here's something scary: Vampire technomancers.
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post Sep 4 2005, 08:38 AM
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what, they suck your bank account dry? Isn't that called the IRS?
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post Sep 4 2005, 09:11 AM
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what, they suck your bank account dry? Isn't that called the IRS?

Or a wife!
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post Sep 4 2005, 10:14 AM
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I dunno, my wife isn't that good at computers.

dreading when she reads this thread and turns her death lasers/glaring eyes on me. Good thing she generally stays away from the SR4 thread
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post Sep 4 2005, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE (Fortune)
QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0 @ Sep 4 2005, 06:38 PM)
what, they suck your bank account dry? Isn't that called the IRS?

Or a wife!

Always remember, kids, if she's unhappy, you're unhappy. If she's unhappy long enough, you're unhappy - with half your stuff.

:D

Okay, now let's get back on topic...
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post Sep 4 2005, 07:21 PM
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Nothing a prenup or a bullet couldn't solve.
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post Sep 4 2005, 07:34 PM
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or not getting married in the first place...
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post Sep 4 2005, 07:50 PM
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Prenup, bullet, and not getting married, are good but you shouldn't forget about personafix chips.
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post Sep 4 2005, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (hyzmarca)
Prenup, bullet, and not getting married, are good but you shouldn't forget about personafix chips.

Personafix Chips.... ahh the ol' slot the latest Starlet chip in the wifes datasocket while she's sleeping gig.... they easy way to your 20th Anniversary.

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post Sep 4 2005, 10:45 PM
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starlet? no flippin way!

if anyone is for a 24h marriage its those.
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