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Shooting Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,632 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Portland Oregon, USA Member No.: 1,304  |
...but it's not.
OK, so I make my ally spirit, and it's manifested form is a katana. Will it hit spirits like a weapon focus, or is it just a mudane sword? |
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Sep 8 2005, 08:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 232 Joined: 19-October 04 Member No.: 6,773 |
Only if you dikote it first. Then have sex with it.
im sorry, I couldn't resist. But to answer your question, a materialized spirit is always dual natured. |
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Sep 8 2005, 08:51 PM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
Which is not to say it's a weapon focus: it doesn't add dice to your skill.
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Sep 8 2005, 08:52 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
It also might not be so happy about being used to bash things.
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Sep 8 2005, 08:52 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 22-May 05 Member No.: 7,406 |
But would it ignore a manifested spirit's Immunity to Normal Weapons power?
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Sep 8 2005, 08:53 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 232 Joined: 19-October 04 Member No.: 6,773 |
Yes. In theory, since a spirit punching a spirit would ignore it, so would the spirit being swung at another spirit. In Theory.
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Sep 8 2005, 08:53 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,632 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Portland Oregon, USA Member No.: 1,304 |
I think it being dual natured takes care of that. It's what I was thinking anyway, but I wanted to get a consensus. |
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Sep 8 2005, 08:57 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 23-December 03 Member No.: 5,929 |
in a manifested form, it is a spirit, not what form it takes.
spirits can manifest in human form, but they are not humans. so a character attacking with it, would be attacking as per a standard katana, gaining nothing by this. however, the spirit still gets to act, and can attack, but would do so using its own inherent skills attributes, etc. which makes you think of the rule that says a spirit cannot be in 2 different places in the 2 planes, so you couldn't tell it to do anything except "stay in my hand" you'd be better off giving it human form with a katana and edged weapon skill. edit: you could also use the rules given for metahuman bodies as weapons, then apply them with whatever attributes the spirit has and ignore the immunity to normal weapons. |
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Sep 8 2005, 09:13 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
In other words, just because the materialized form is a katana does not change the shape or function of the astral form - which is *not* going to be a katana. You can reference Dragons of the Sixth world and Paranormal Animals of North America among others on differences between physical forms and astral forms.
That's what I would do, as a GM. Casting Flame Aura on a weapon is a far better choice than wielding an Ally Spirit... unless you're using a homunculus. |
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Sep 8 2005, 09:49 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Remember, according to the rules for using bodies as weapons both target and weapon take damage of (other character's BOD + 2)M stun. If you overdo it you may disrupt your own ally.
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Sep 8 2005, 09:55 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 28-May 03 From: Orlando Member No.: 4,644 |
This reminds me of another thread (pardon my search-fu is weak) on using a ghoul as a club. heh heh heh
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Sep 8 2005, 10:03 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
I was thinking that very thing myself. But if you mush the ghoul and it goes bye-bye you just get another one. Not so with your Ally. |
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