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 Sep 9 2005, 07:17 PM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill.  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006  |
I have looked pretty hard but I can't find any rules for layering armor or having more than one piece of armor? I am hoping I just missed something. Has anyone else find rules on layering?
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Sep 9 2005, 07:27 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Gone - only the highest value counts.
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Sep 9 2005, 07:40 PM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
Anyone want to comment on why it was taken out? and if it will be in a later expansion?
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Sep 9 2005, 07:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 276 Joined: 6-August 02 From: Kiel, Germany Member No.: 3,071 |
There are rules on layering, just the highest piece counts...
But you are slowed for all of them |
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Sep 9 2005, 08:06 PM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
Thats not layering armor. 'Only the highest piece counts' is the same as saying don't wear more than one piece of armor.
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Sep 9 2005, 08:11 PM
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Technomancer Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
Yeah, pretty much.
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Sep 9 2005, 08:14 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 276 Joined: 6-August 02 From: Kiel, Germany Member No.: 3,071 |
You could get one piece with high impact and one with high ballistic and combine these...
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Sep 9 2005, 08:17 PM
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Technomancer Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
Damn. Why didn't I think of that. Good catch, Elve.
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Sep 9 2005, 08:26 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Actually, if you combine a Leather Jacket with Armor Clothing, you gain 2 Points Impact Armor... wheee. As this would cause an encumbrance of 6/2, somebody with Body 3+ could do that. |
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Sep 9 2005, 08:28 PM
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Technomancer Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
that doesn't mean there won't be one day.
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Sep 9 2005, 08:58 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Right, there is always hope.
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Sep 9 2005, 09:23 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 |
Or hide behind the troll.
What else are they good for? -Siege |
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Sep 9 2005, 09:26 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
If you really want to preserve the old armor layering rules, simply use the armor values listed in SR3. The SR4 armor values were given a significant boost, probably because the layering rules were removed.
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Sep 9 2005, 10:00 PM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
I don't like house rules. Not at all. Having to house rule a game to make it work, or to make me like it is a sign of a bad game... imho.
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Sep 9 2005, 10:17 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Hrm, actually, this would cause you to have less armor sometimes.
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Sep 9 2005, 10:27 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 |
I've yet to find a game that I was completely happy with in every respect.
Primarily because people typically have different tastes in what appeals to them and adequately reflects their taste in gaming. -Siege |
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Sep 10 2005, 04:28 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 400 |
i often played high Quickness shadowrunnners in SR3, and found myself layering armor a lot. It never felt right about it, but i usually didn't have enough Body to not layer. i'm glad it's gone, and i'm even more glad that how much armor you can wear is no longer linked to Quickness (or the SR4 equivalent(s)).
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Sep 12 2005, 08:38 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
So is there still Formfit, or is that gone too? Also does this mean the Armour spell & Mystic Armour are no longer cumulative with worn armour?
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Sep 12 2005, 08:45 PM
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Technomancer Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
Armor and Mystic Armor still stack. Mystic Armor actually works for ballistic and impact armor, now, too. But, there's no form fitting body armor in SR4. But, the good news is that they standardized a ruthenium suit, called the Chameleon Suit, in the main book. Much easier than having to construct such a monstrosity in SR3.
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