Shadow
Sep 9 2005, 07:17 PM
I have looked pretty hard but I can't find any rules for layering armor or having more than one piece of armor? I am hoping I just missed something. Has anyone else find rules on layering?
Rotbart van Dainig
Sep 9 2005, 07:27 PM
Gone - only the highest value counts.
Shadow
Sep 9 2005, 07:40 PM
Anyone want to comment on why it was taken out? and if it will be in a later expansion?
Elve
Sep 9 2005, 07:47 PM
There are rules on layering, just the highest piece counts...
But you are slowed for all of them
Shadow
Sep 9 2005, 08:06 PM
Thats not layering armor. 'Only the highest piece counts' is the same as saying don't wear more than one piece of armor.
Dashifen
Sep 9 2005, 08:11 PM
Yeah, pretty much.
Elve
Sep 9 2005, 08:14 PM
You could get one piece with high impact and one with high ballistic and combine these...
Dashifen
Sep 9 2005, 08:17 PM
Damn. Why didn't I think of that. Good catch, Elve.
Rotbart van Dainig
Sep 9 2005, 08:26 PM
Because there is no such armor?
Actually, if you combine a Leather Jacket with Armor Clothing, you gain 2 Points Impact Armor... wheee.
As this would cause an encumbrance of 6/2, somebody with Body 3+ could do that.
Dashifen
Sep 9 2005, 08:28 PM
that doesn't mean there won't be one day.
Rotbart van Dainig
Sep 9 2005, 08:58 PM
Right, there is always hope.
Siege
Sep 9 2005, 09:23 PM
Or hide behind the troll.
What else are they good for?
-Siege
hahnsoo
Sep 9 2005, 09:26 PM
If you really want to preserve the old armor layering rules, simply use the armor values listed in SR3. The SR4 armor values were given a significant boost, probably because the layering rules were removed.
Shadow
Sep 9 2005, 10:00 PM
I don't like house rules. Not at all. Having to house rule a game to make it work, or to make me like it is a sign of a bad game... imho.
Rotbart van Dainig
Sep 9 2005, 10:17 PM
Hrm, actually, this would cause you to have less armor sometimes.
Siege
Sep 9 2005, 10:27 PM
I've yet to find a game that I was completely happy with in every respect.
Primarily because people typically have different tastes in what appeals to them and adequately reflects their taste in gaming.
-Siege
Space Ghost
Sep 10 2005, 04:28 AM
i often played high Quickness shadowrunnners in SR3, and found myself layering armor a lot. It never felt right about it, but i usually didn't have enough Body to not layer. i'm glad it's gone, and i'm even more glad that how much armor you can wear is no longer linked to Quickness (or the SR4 equivalent(s)).
Kyoto Kid
Sep 12 2005, 08:38 PM
So is there still Formfit, or is that gone too? Also does this mean the Armour spell & Mystic Armour are no longer cumulative with worn armour?
Dashifen
Sep 12 2005, 08:45 PM
Armor and Mystic Armor still stack. Mystic Armor actually works for ballistic and impact armor, now, too. But, there's no form fitting body armor in SR4. But, the good news is that they standardized a ruthenium suit, called the Chameleon Suit, in the main book. Much easier than having to construct such a monstrosity in SR3.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please
click here.