OOC: SR4-First Run, Food Fight! Options

[Shalimar]

works for me, I don't mind it, I do want things to work out.

[Cold-Dragon]

Seeing as this has limited to do with me short of not losing a partner, I'm okidoki with it. ^-^

[gobogen]

Yeah that's fine with me. I really don't like this kind of change in a game though, but it's clearly for the best and the enjoyment of all.

Also, did I see them? I guess not since they aren't near the entrance anymore, but ... what do I see? Who do I recognize?

EDIT: I'd like to know more about the Mentor spirit business.. Is he always following the dwarf on the astral plane? I thougth these were mentors that you see once in a while and give you a task or tell you you did something wrong and whatever. Why is he always following every move of his follower?

[Slacker]

@gobogen: Yeah, I don't care for this sort of thing either, but like you said, i think it's for the best.
Ok, let's start by describing the situation. Because there has been the the change in story so that the dwarf never went invisible. netlich's character would only have sent out the message about rumor control needed, and not the one to keep watch out for the dwarf trying to escape.
Upon entering the club it seems like any other night you have been in there. Plenty of people on the dance floor and a crowd of people by the bar. There is no sign of any trouble or that any trouble happened in the recent past so you are quite curious as to just what was the rush for you to get over here for.
You don't immediately spot Mark, Tempty, and Jack sitting in a corner booth. However, as you make your way to the bartender who is likely to know where Tempty has gotten to since she's such a regular, you are able to spot the horned head of Mark over in the corner. Moving closer, you can also see Tempty sitting at the table. At first you don't notice the smallish dwarf, but when you do spot him sitting there your first thoughts are something along the lines of "Guess that's the cause of dragging me out here...."
Then you do a double-take as you realize you know the dwarf. Its been a few years, but you'd swear he was one of the paramedic's that saved your mother when she had that horrible accident. "What the hell is this shit?" you might think to yourself.

@All: To answer gobogen's question on Mentor Spirits:
The way he has described Mentor Spirits is the typical way they are handled. But each one is a manifestation unique to the person they are connected to. I'm allowing them to be constant companions for both Celia and Jack because it adds a certain interesting dynamic to the game.
However, I am having them be within the players own minds. So while the mento spirits may be seen/heard in physical space or astral space by the awakened character they are connected to, they cannot be seen/heard by others.
For example, Celia's mentor spirit may appear within astral space for her to 'talk' to, but another astrally perceiving character also there would not be able to see it.

Hmm...i just realized something, it's been quite a while since we've heard from Whizbang the group's hacker. I need to find out if she's planning to start posting again. When I talked to her at the beginning of the year she said she would, but haven't heard from her since.

[Cold-Dragon]

*nods* that was essentially how I was permitting Snake to exist. In a sense, he's a super-spirit, so he's 'masking himself' as far as being around casually goes. I stuck in a subtle, myself only implication that he talked to Pet Rock. But he's not going to tell anyone that ;). Otherwise, unless I 'summoned' Snake in a genuine body, he doesn't get me anything I don't get myself. He's a roleplaying tool. Naturally, spirits summoned of him aren't 'him' personally, more like semi-avatars or else spirits under him, etc, etc.

I hope we don't lose another one. >.< lol...

erk, and on a side note. I guess pretend me and Snakey didn't do quite as much as we did...bah. silly rewinds...

[Tzaz]

My pet rock is a catalyst/filter to my mentor spirit. I only get cryptic sayings and cliches. My mentor has a job for me to do. She helps me and I help her. Unless I screw things up or a certain enviremental issues occur.

[Tzaz]

Snake is a subset of my mentor. My Pet rock has no mana or intelligence. it is a communication device between my mentor and me.
Do spirits talk to each other? or are they all one spirit that we each see differently. This is what Wang Chi and I have been working on. inantimate objects have no mana, only living things do. But elementals have mana and they are summoned from the meta/astral plane. So they have mana when they come to our plane. I believe Spirits summon us to the meta/astral planes like we summon elementals.

[gobogen]

Damn. OK, I'll edit my post so that everything is rewinded correctly, then make a new post as well.

And those explanations on mentor spirits are interesting. I already had figured that it was mostly a role-playing tool too. Expending on concepts like that is the kind of novelty I like to find in forum games. gj guys. :)

[Cold-Dragon]

*gets Gobogen a pet rat spirit, just so he can enjoy the antics of a metaphysical rodent constantly at his ear* :>

[gobogen]

*gets a meta-stick enchanted with arcane beat-the-crap-out-of-vermin spells to get rid of the astral rodent biting his ears

;)

[netlich]

Yeah I kinda like the comic relief/divine intervention usage of the mentor spirits by both persons. they are also a nice addition to roelplaying tools to provide different angles and perspectives in a post. Perhaps Mark might develop a new psychosis...Split CyberPersonality and start talking to his commlink or smartlink... ;-) With so much AI software running inside him and his low logic and charisma it could easily happen :-P


On a second note - to be realistic perhaps we need to calculate the time that passes before Taku gets to the club although for simplicity shake and to move the scene forward (which I am aching to do) I won't mind if he joins immediately :-)

[netlich]

Additionally :

a) Would Shalimar or Slacker mind if we share fixers with Tempty strengthening the bonds ebtween the group? I got a fixer contact [1/2] which would not interfere with Tempty relationship with him - just give us a common gorund to base our past experiences on and how we got together. My contacts low ratings would also account for Hammer to have joined this group lately and not having been in many runs with them...

b)
Not to make a fuss...But Mark is my character's (still fake) yet real life assumed name so he doesn't feel comfortable when it is used in public. He prefers the Hammer when doing business. But this is a minor detail and I have no probs with it...He ould easily have more alias in the back of his hand :-)


I will be posting the general concept of the character soon.In essense what you people who have been in the ran with him know of the troll street sam.

c)
I think with Mark's very low Charisma and the general situation in the cubicle it should take an easy pereption roll for Taku to realise that things are much more chilly than outward appearances say...Although definetely not the crisis hinted at the message yet the "something's wrong" feeling is easily discernible...Both Mark and Tempty where thinking of Offing the dwarf and now they heard that someone's after them...

[Shalimar]

I don't mind sharing a fixer. I would point out though that he is a very well connected fixer though (rating 4), meaning he fixes for the entire region... don't know how you would square that up exactly with the rating 2 you would have him at?

[netlich]

Easily he is not loyal to me...I dont' sleep with him :-P

Tsk tsk tsk...imagine that! Sleeping with a sexy Gunbunny at the same period he's trading bodily fluids with a StreetSammie Troll??? Man there goes my supper....

[Shalimar]

[netlich]

Sorry I should have elaborated more on the serious stuff rather than the joke...

What I meant was that since I do not know him well yet (let us say he got me a job or two in the past , one of them being with this group of Tempty and co.). Therefore he is simply just starting with me. He got me nice jobs and I delivered professionally. Which means he becomes a contact of mine too.

You know him more intimately (sp?) so he would go to his full extend to get you connected (conn:4). In my case though he doesn't owe me nothing so if I ask for something he ain't goona do as much hard work for me as he would do for you(hence half conection for meuntil I raise it in game).


Am I making sense?

[netlich]

Here's an example:

I got another contact like yours , a street doc. Perhaps after a couple of runs he gets to patch you up a few times. We discuss it with Slacker and decide that he becomes your contact too. In story terms you got to know him through your dealings and you can now directly use his skills without going trough me asking him to help you as Mark's co-runner. Me and him go way back so he will do his best to find something for me (let's say a specific substance as he is a street doc). He is a recent aquintance of yours though so it would not be realistic for him to risk his rep and name for someone he knows only through a few runs and through a mutual but good friend, would it? Hence he would have lower loyalty and subsequently willing to share less of his connections for ya?

[gobogen]

I agree with what netlich is saying about contacts. I think that is the essence of the rules.

As per calling him Mark, I'm sorry I just didn't notice his alias much yet, but I would have called him Hammer (will edit unless Slacker says it's not okay to). As per what my character thinks, it has to do with a) the "threat" is someone he knows to be a good doctor, sort of; b) the laughing; c) the lack of commotion, screams etc, whereas he was called in for rumor control. I just chose to roleplay that Taku is pissed because he is under the impression that nothing huge is happening for now.

[netlich]

Yup gotcha. Am sure that Taku will be satisfied with the need for rumour control as soon as he gets the lowdown...

By the way -I think Tempty has no visible wounds from yesterday, how about Taku? I think you made a post about most of them having healed right?

[Shalimar]

I don't believe she has any visible wounds, no.

[Cold-Dragon]

hehe, stalking horse, that's funny. ;)

I prefer to think of sending out a pony in heat and wrangling up all the studs and and whatnot...but then I'd be accusing Tempty of being a lesbian.

So I guess we'll stick to stalking horse, lol. ;)

And Adept eh? well, small risk there if he tries perceiving, otherwise I'm not so worried. It's fun having a spirit available to relay all this too. - who needs cyberears when you got one of those? ^-^

[gobogen]

A day's rest was enough for Taku to heal all his wounds. Maybe it's because of the short japanese type having a fast methabolism, who knows ;) He's still got marks and some damage, but he's 100% functional in game terms.

[Slacker]

A lot of posting going on today. I have sent Whizbang a PM to check to see if she plans on continuing with the game. I'll also message her next time I see her logged into AIM (which reminds me, I am pretty much always logged into AIM, even while at work, so if any of you use it, you can message me, the name is Morrolan3, just tell me your name so that I can add it to my allowed list).

As far as sharing contacts go, that is fine, though the typical the Connection rating is interpretted as a rating to determine the abilities of the Fixer and is unrelated to the character; and Loyalty is a rating to determine the relationship between fixer and character.

By the way, adepts can have Mentor Spirits if they want. Its a quality open to all awakened characters.
The Hammer would be a bit out of luck though. However, you could simulate something similar by buying an agent that you leave running on your commlink. This would be two fold, it could provide some extra security on your commlink and it would give you a great opportunity for internal debates with it :D

[Slacker]

Oh and if anybody is injured, I can't even remember who all got injured, speak up so we can go ahead and get the rolling out of the way to heal you up. As gobogen has already said, he's rolled his healing and he's back to full health, I'm sure he has some bandages and such on, but functionally he is fine.

[gobogen]

I love the activity level of this game. It's really caught up after being down for about a month.