Lord Ben
Oct 12 2005, 04:00 PM
Most types of maglocks, etc can be defeated using the hardware skill or dupliation systems like retina duplicators. However, print scanners and DNA samplers you actually need a copy of the stuff to fake it. No rules exist for making "fake" breath spray or a glove that uses nanites to rearrange itself.
The dice actions would be simple enough, fake rating vs lock rating. But what would you have to do to build a new tool like that?
blakkie
Oct 12 2005, 05:24 PM
There is a Cellular Glove Molder on page 326.
Lord Ben
Oct 12 2005, 05:37 PM
But you can only copy an existing print, not just make stuff up as you go like you can with retinal duplicators or voice modulators.
blakkie
Oct 12 2005, 05:47 PM
To create an imaginary print? Just use your Edit program to whip one up on your commlink using Disgue skill i guess. *shrug* They are stored digitally afterall.
Jaid
Oct 12 2005, 05:54 PM
on top of that, you presumably have your own fingerprint info on your commlink somewhere (unless of course, you don't have any ID whatsoever, real or false...)
of course, you would want to subsequently want to remove your print from the system afterwards, since you don't really want them to know who broke into their compound...
Lord Ben
Oct 12 2005, 05:56 PM
Well, you can use retinal duplication to bypass bioreaders without having a valid copy OR without hacking.
I want to bypass fingerprint readers without hacking too.
Jaid
Oct 12 2005, 05:58 PM
ah. well, in that case, you need a mini-welder
or explosives. either one will work (mind you, the welder is a lot quieter
)
Nikoli
Oct 12 2005, 06:01 PM
well, retinal duplicators are like the cellular golve molds, you have to have a real set to use and copy that has access. they don't "hack" the system.
Only the sequencer hacks in any way.
Otherwise you have to hotwire it or hack it via the matrix.
hahnsoo
Oct 12 2005, 07:55 PM
Well, I'm sure there are image identification algorithms that are used with fingerprint scanners. It would be a logical, but difficult, operation(given enough background knowledge of "how it works") to be able to reconstruct the algorithms and extrapolate a fingerprint from that information, if you had the right software. Still, it's pretty easy to socially engineer a valid fingerprint for a given location... you ARE doing legwork before your B&E, right?
Lord Ben
Oct 12 2005, 08:04 PM
Well, yeah. But you never know what unexpected stuff you run into.
Nikoli
Oct 12 2005, 08:26 PM
BTW, a severed hand/finger should never work in SR time. the mid to high end scanner now can tell if the source has blood pressure. Some high end home safes won't open if your BP is too high (as in a gun is to your head and you are being made to open the safe) or too low.
hahnsoo
Oct 12 2005, 08:39 PM
QUOTE (Nikoli) |
BTW, a severed hand/finger should never work in SR time. the mid to high end scanner now can tell if the source has blood pressure. Some high end home safes won't open if your BP is too high (as in a gun is to your head and you are being made to open the safe) or too low. |
You could, of course, just hook up a couple of IV tubes and have a small machine that pumps pulsatile saline (or blood) through the hand, simulating blood pressure. You can even have a pressure sensor to "tune" this to the appropriate human BP.
Still, there are WAY too many people with hypertension or hypotension and too much variation in sensor input to make this a practical security feature, especially since it would simply be easier and more effective to have a pulse oximeter attached instead. Also, Stress reactions, while often raising central blood pressure, doesn't have nearly as much of an effect on your peripheral circulation as one might think.
blakkie
Oct 12 2005, 09:04 PM
The Molder should handle that stuff, and the top rating (3) is only 600
. Once you have the hand or finger it should be able to bring that in. Whether the Molder includes a print scanner isn't particularly clear from the description, so you might have to get your hands on (yuck, yuck) one of those too if you don't already have a file containing the print.
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