ok, so i'm working on the garage, and i'm looking at the vehicle accessories, thinking, does anyone even USE most of these? out side of photovoltaic paint, does anyone use these? Ejection bucket seats? different tires? Cranes? Cargo mounts?

Yes, on the crane. I put one in the back of a Road Master once in order to use it as a tow truck. Not elegant, but it did work.

on the tires, my team outfits with all runflat onroad/offroad tires. photovalic paint and the ID library with the morphing plates, of course unfortunately that van got blown up within the last 48(in game) hours and now has to be replaced along with about 80% of the teams gear.

actually had a character with a paint(vehicles) skill, in my first game so that i could take and repaint my bike after every mission.

Warrior, i thought of that for the tires, but if you have an improved suspension, or DBW, you automatically get dual purpose tires

I had a rigger with an ejection bucket seat on the passengers side. It was rigged with a block of c12.

I anticipated using it if someone tried to carjack me, but it never came up. I did get to use it when I had unsuspecting people that needed to disappear. Tell them "lets go take a ride." Eject and ba-boom.

Another instance was when my superkombi had been tipped on it's side. The attacking motorcycle gang was directly in line with the ejected seats trajectory, so it was basically a rocket.

Also good for deterring bothersome helicopters.

Some of the accessories are next to useless, but many see frequent use, at least in our games.

Anti-theft Systems - you could find one in most of the "better" cars the characters use, simply because being a runner doesn't make ones 50k + car immune to common thieves.

External Cargo Mounts - some additional cargo space, in the form of a pre-packaged and portable box, can come quite handy at times. Going out into the wild? Just put this box onto the roof, and you're ready to go.

Armored Seats - in case you want that sense of improved security...

Spotlights - you might not use them during actual runs, but that doesn't mean they're useless.

Tires - characters use them so often that they're actually more common than standard tires.

Winches - you never you when you'll need to pull your own car out of a ditch...


The rest of those toys are not seen that often, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be considered a possibility for your specific needs.

Drone rack, ejection seats (both used), let me see, oh there's the whole licenseplate + transponder thing so you're legit traffic....

First thing I saved up for was a convertible ragtop for my Eurocar Westwind. It picks up all the chicks.

i have memorys of coding a simple calculation app for the deck building rules in VR2 at one time. at times it was "how the hell am i going to transform that into code?".

but then i have never been properly trained in the art of coding
and the language of choice at the time was visual basic

I'm not "properly trained" either, although, my language of choise is Actionscript/Flash. I did have one flash class in college though

So I guess I'm missing something. Are you going to use the vehicle accessories or aren't you?

yes, they'll eventually get in there. fortunately, not many of them are actually installable on a bike (motorcycle convertable, anyone?) but i'm going to concentrate on the other, more important things (like, weapon mounts) so that i can begin filling in and porting all of those, and filling in the rest of the gaps.

Had i been more intelligent, i would've started this preoject with cars, and not bikes, but oh well.

but see, i disagree on the tires being important, because, as i read it, if you have either of the suspension upgrade, ore DBW, you automatically get dual purpose tires (and, i can't see why anyone would get anything other) The only "must have" tire option is wether or not you want them to be run flats.

However, i noticed that tires don't actually have a DP cost to them, only a flat nuyen, so it seems like they're an aftermarket only upgrade.

Hows that generator of yours coming, anyways?

Glacially. Is there any other way?

Yeah, tires are aftermarket-only. I assumed you were handling Customization as well, but if not you could potentially drop them.

~J

well, the thing is, most things in the "customization" section, also have design costs, there are a few exceptions (like tires), but for the most part, not. I'm nt sure how i'll handle those things yet.

How much does electrifiable conductive metal-fibre seat-coverings for the passenger side seat that you can use to light the suckah up cost?

I'm a big fan of tire mods and the morphing plate/transponder. Another favorite is getting a good auto pilot in the vehicle and key a phone to it, then get a transducer/cyber phone, and have your ehicle on call, even if you're not a rigger. Then throw in a drone rack, battle tac master unit, coordinate some drones for suprise back up.

I like the photovoltaic paint too, and any kind of sensors asuming you have the room. The little crane arms have coem in very handy as well, especially w/ T-bird smuggling. Don't even need to land!

another question (as to not spam with a new thread), can the pop-up and anti-aircraft options be installed on the same weapon mount?

.. I believe so. it doesn't say they can't, does it?

pop-up turrets are the shiznit for innocous looking transports.

I think the whole concept of anti-air turret options is dumb. if you're going to build a weapon into a turret, why NOT have a large degree of freedom in all direction????

well, it doesnt say, either way, it's rather vague, in my opinion. They're listed as two different bolded options, with different costs for each.

And i agree, half the fun of a turret is spinning it around as much as possible.

ok, heres another one, what's the point of a firearm conversion kit? there's no cost given, that i see, or is that just the general description for mounts?

There is a price in the table on (IIRC) the bottom of the facing page. It varies based on weapon type.

~J

Well fire arm conversion kits would be required for vehicle mounting something that is normally a personal weapon. So why vehicle mount say an SMG? No real point on a large vehicle, but very useful on a drone or a small vehicle. There may also be some use for Heavy Armor to have antipersonnel weapons smart mounted as point defense agains infantry.

i hate errata...

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HATE.

But thank you tisoz

I'd give a massive karma bonus to anyone who mounts a harpoon and tow-cable on an LAV and uses it in combat.

Possibly for the purpose of tripping a four-legged vehicle of the Walker type?

Of course, your name has to be Wedge Antilles to pull it off.