stevebugge
Feb 11 2006, 02:24 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060210/tc_af...et_060210120222I guess this is a good illustration of just what can go wrong if your characters have poor language skills. Anybody have any funny stories about language skill glitches in their games?
Herald of Verjigorm
Feb 11 2006, 03:01 AM
There are also many tales of bad international marketing attempts. Unfortunately, the only one I can remember clearly enough to describe is automotive.
Nova, a car, with various commercials bragging about its abilities.
No va, two Spanish words that translate literally "no go."
It didn't sell well in Spanish speaking countries.
stevebugge
Feb 11 2006, 03:18 AM
Let's not forget the infamous "Nothing Sucks like an Electrolux" ad campaign for Electrolux Vacuum Cleaners
hyzmarca
Feb 11 2006, 03:22 AM
The problem is that latin characters are the standard for website URLs because URLs are encoding in ASCII. Really, if URLs supported UTF-8 or TCVN 6909:2001 then there wouldn't be a problem at all.
And about the Nova thing.
stevebugge
Feb 11 2006, 03:40 AM
QUOTE (hyzmarca) |
The problem is that latin characters are the standard for website URLs because URLs are encoding in ASCII. Really, if URLs supported UTF-8 or TCVN 6909:2001 then there wouldn't be a problem at all.
And about the Nova thing. |
There you go trying to ruin are fun again! And I was just getting ready for the small grapefruit jokes to start flying
SL James
Feb 11 2006, 04:22 AM
Bah. My favorite was Gerber baby food being made out of babies in Africa.
Kagetenshi
Feb 11 2006, 06:28 AM
QUOTE (hyzmarca) |
Really, if URLs supported UTF-8 or TCVN 6909:2001 then there wouldn't be a problem at all. |
Unless you consider trivial URL spoofing to be a problem.
~J
Kyuhan
Feb 11 2006, 06:49 AM
QUOTE |
Let's not forget the infamous "Nothing Sucks like an Electrolux" ad campaign for Electrolux Vacuum Cleaners |
I'd buy one just because of that. Oh the hilarity.
mfb
Feb 11 2006, 07:40 AM
my favorite is the website of the Italian division of Powergen,
Powergen Italia.
Edward
Feb 11 2006, 08:06 AM
QUOTE (hyzmarca) |
The problem is that latin characters are the standard for website URLs because URLs are encoding in ASCII. Really, if URLs supported UTF-8 or TCVN 6909:2001 then there wouldn't be a problem at all.
And about the Nova thing. |
That would not solve the problem at all.
It would just move it. URLs would then contain characters witch the vast majority of computer users in the western world would not know how to type. Last time I checked you have to install a non default windows option to be able to use some of those characters and even then they require strange key combinations to achieve. I had enough trouble when I had to deal with some of the European characters, adding Asian characters would effectively prevent many people from visiting the sites.
Edward
hyzmarca
Feb 11 2006, 08:38 AM
It would solve the problem of impercise language in URLs.
The problem thaa the vast majority to western users don't know how to type these characters is a rather minor one compared to that. One would most likely use hyperlinks to visit these pages anyway. The fact that typing these languanges requires an non standard option to be installed is a deficiency in Windows and should be corrected in the next version along with the need to install new fonts to view Asian characters.
ShadowDragon8685
Feb 11 2006, 08:55 AM
QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Feb 11 2006, 04:38 AM) |
It would solve the problem of impercise language in URLs.
The problem thaa the vast majority to western users don't know how to type these characters is a rather minor one compared to that. One would most likely use hyperlinks to visit these pages anyway. The fact that typing these languanges requires an non standard option to be installed is a deficiency in Windows and should be corrected in the next version along with the need to install new fonts to view Asian characters. |
Sure. And while we're at it, we'll be installing keyboards the size and general shape of my Durango on everybody's desktop, so that they can type every possible character.
While I, and possibly you, might like the idea of a computer interface that you mount, climb into, or otherwise engage with your person, as opposed to merely your fingers, the vast majority would find such contrivances to be incredibly, ridiculously stupid.
That said, playing Half-Life 2 in such a rig would rock.
Most computer-users in our sphere, IE: the English-writing or other languages which use our alphabet-writing world, do not and will not have a need to type such characters. The fact that they do not come pre-installed is related to the reason my Durango does not have a Hemi engine.
In computers, it's about time and resources and resources. The first two referr to the programming time and resources it takes to ensure that such things as estoeric Asian charactersets function properly on our computers in any other place that ASCII text would function, which includes all third-party word-processing programs and browsers and so forth and so on, and the third is the fact that the computer will then be required to keep a <b>VASTLY</b> larger character set in memory.
The Unicode font, for example, contains FFFC characters. That's 65,532 characters.
It has to keep this set in active memory, IE RAM, at all times.
Add in the complete range of Asian characters? Watch that number exlpode through the millions.
(The reason my Durango dosen't have a Hemi, of course, is also resources. IE: I don't have the resources for that option. I have a Magnum V8, though. ^_^)
And, as I said. What's the point of giving someone something he's never going to use? Can YOU speak and write in ANY of those Asian languages? ALL of them?!
If not, why the HELL would you need default access to their character sets, especially when typing one from the keyboard was an insanely complicated process of memorizing alt+ combinations that were about nine keystrokes long? PER CHARACTER you need to type? Or worse, searching through the character map?
Or, as I said, strapping yourself into an enormous keyboard the size and shape of my Durango. That periphrial ALONE would probably cost as much if not moreso than the computer itself. Hell, you'd build the computer INTO it's control interface.
Actually, that's not a bad idea, but not to have so many keys surrounding me that I look like Mission Control..... No. I want to be surrounded by joysticks and large control surfaces that make manipulating my video games easier. But that's a story for another time. ^_^
Kyuhan
Feb 11 2006, 11:11 AM
QUOTE (mfb) |
my favorite is the website of the Italian division of Powergen, Powergen Italia. |
They stole my website URL.
Herald of Verjigorm
Feb 11 2006, 12:32 PM
QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Feb 11 2006, 03:55 AM) |
Sure. And while we're at it, we'll be installing keyboards the size and general shape of my Durango on everybody's desktop, so that they can type every possible character. |
No, you just need a DNI or
programmable interface so that you can either send the command "m with 5 squiggles" or scroll through 37 complete keyboard layouts looking for the one letter you need.
Just imagine how much worse it will get than "www.Micròsôft.com"
ShadowDragon8685
Feb 11 2006, 07:29 PM
HoV: While the programmable interface does in fact have merit...
Okay, it's a good idea. Still, I'm not gonna use it for anything more than Half-Life 2.
Fix-it
Feb 11 2006, 08:49 PM
Engrish.comfor more "lost in translation" examples. mostly japanese.
Kagetenshi
Feb 11 2006, 09:21 PM
QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685) |
Sure. And while we're at it, we'll be installing keyboards the size and general shape of my Durango on everybody's desktop, so that they can type every possible character. |
Right now I have roughly (47*(1 (standard layout) + 1 (shift) + 1 (option) + 1 (option-shift)) + (about 10*4 dead keys, minus 8 for ones counted already) + 1 + 2) characters available to me with at most four keystrokes (option-key plus shift-key). That's 223. Add one additional modifier key and you increase that to 411, even without effective use of additional dead keys. All it takes is a space cadet keyboard and your path is wide open.
~J
nezumi
Feb 12 2006, 01:40 AM
On the original topic...
If memory serves, Ford sold the Pinto, which was fantastically popular (or at least sold pretty well) in most of the markets it was introduced to, except Brazil. SOme later research indicated that 'pinto' means, in Portuguese, 'little penis'.
SL James
Feb 12 2006, 03:03 AM
Or maybe it just didn't get to Brazil until people elsewhere found out they explode.
stevebugge
Feb 12 2006, 04:02 AM
QUOTE (Fix-it) |
Engrish.com
for more "lost in translation" examples. mostly japanese. |
I love that site
Vaevictis
Feb 12 2006, 09:18 AM
I think it was on Engrish.com -- sadly I can't find it again -- but apparently, there was a sign in a convenience store in Japan near a naval base...
"Semen welcome here."
That's definately my favorite engrish.
bclements
Feb 12 2006, 06:50 PM
QUOTE (Kagetenshi) |
...space cadet keyboard...
|
You had me there.
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