Full Version: [RL] Organlegging
Old news, sorry, they're a bit behind. This is a continuation of a news line that has been running since the last week of January. NYC organ harvesting company has already been shut down & the principles jailed for several different methods of illegal harvesting of bones and other organs. The story broke after several recipients became ill due to contaminated transplant tissue. At this point CDC, DOJ, & FDA are busy trying to determine the extent of the "activities". So far the primary instigators have a history of organ legging running back 17 years, through 3 different companies. They shut down/sold off the 1st 2 companies before the crimes were discovered. The original company was operating out of NYC, the 2nd out of New Jersey, and the 3rd was back in the original location - under a different name.
The local ABC News affiliate has been making a big stink out of this, because one of their producers was a victim of the contaminated tissue. Locally, they've been able to identify 96 recipients of organs/tissue from this latest incarnation of the company. 31 of those patients received contaminated tissue, 9 have complications resulting from it, 1 has died.
The local ABC News affiliate has been making a big stink out of this, because one of their producers was a victim of the contaminated tissue. Locally, they've been able to identify 96 recipients of organs/tissue from this latest incarnation of the company. 31 of those patients received contaminated tissue, 9 have complications resulting from it, 1 has died.
The only problem I have with this kind of operation is the inadequate safety measures for the living recipients.
For what reason would any dead person need there organs anyway. As far as I know no modern religion penalises somebody for donating there organs when they die (the ancient Egyptians would have but as far as I know nobody practises that any more).
What annoys me further is that hear in Australia I can not ensure that my organs will be used (even if they can be). There is an option to become an organ donor on the drivers licence (now changed to an option not to be an organ donor) but if your next of kin doses not allow it the organs can not be used. If the next of kin can not be located then the organs may not be harvested until they are. It pains me to consider the number of lives lost simply because a willing donor’s family could not be contacted in time.
I would like to see organ donation made compulsory (possibly with a religious out for any religion that has a strong objection similar to the out o believe some religions get on US social security tax, available only if you’re a true practising member of the religion). With this one act the wait for organs would be cut dramatically, and the market for black market organ legers would be eliminated and with it the risk of unsafe tissue being implanted.
Edward
For what reason would any dead person need there organs anyway. As far as I know no modern religion penalises somebody for donating there organs when they die (the ancient Egyptians would have but as far as I know nobody practises that any more).
What annoys me further is that hear in Australia I can not ensure that my organs will be used (even if they can be). There is an option to become an organ donor on the drivers licence (now changed to an option not to be an organ donor) but if your next of kin doses not allow it the organs can not be used. If the next of kin can not be located then the organs may not be harvested until they are. It pains me to consider the number of lives lost simply because a willing donor’s family could not be contacted in time.
I would like to see organ donation made compulsory (possibly with a religious out for any religion that has a strong objection similar to the out o believe some religions get on US social security tax, available only if you’re a true practising member of the religion). With this one act the wait for organs would be cut dramatically, and the market for black market organ legers would be eliminated and with it the risk of unsafe tissue being implanted.
Edward
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| As far as I know no modern religion penalises somebody for donating there organs when they die (the ancient Egyptians would have but as far as I know nobody practises that any more). |
Orthodox Judaism, Orthodox Christianity, Several sects of Islam, and a couple of Hindu sects.
My family are Eastern Orthodox Christians. Under our church laws, we can't donate organs for replacement purposes, much less scientific research. Heck, we're still required to be buried in linen wraps & a pine box with no concrete vault, if we're to put in the ground. The preferred method of internment is to be placed in a crypt or mausoleum for the 1st 7 years, then the next 7 are spent in the church courtyard/graveyard, after that every 7 years we get dug up for evaluation. At the end of 49 years if nothing spectacular has happened, our old bones get tossed into the bone pile for making fertilizer. Should there be a lack of decay after the 1st 7 years in the crypt, then we get shipped off to some monostary for testing to find out if we were saints, possessed, or demons. That process takes 13 years, then the findings (if saintly) are passed to the Arch Bishop for presentation to the council of churches to be voted upon, which may take as much as 100 years (longest deliberation on record), but averages 8.
The local Jewish cemetary rakes in a healthy amount each year renting burial space to the other religions, just so they can avoid having to be buried in a vault.
I stand (well sit) corrected.
Not that this covers most people.
Edward
Not that this covers most people.
Edward
NP Most people wouldn't know about it anyway. I started to study comparative religions in prep for applying to UC Berkley, for their thaumatugical studies program. Even as an EOC, I didn't know about our burial laws until I took those courses. 
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| What annoys me further is that hear in Australia I can not ensure that my organs will be used (even if they can be). There is an option to become an organ donor on the drivers licence (now changed to an option not to be an organ donor) but if your next of kin doses not allow it the organs can not be used. If the next of kin can not be located then the organs may not be harvested until they are. It pains me to consider the number of lives lost simply because a willing donor’s family could not be contacted in time. |
They are introducing legislation that reverses the current process with implied consent, and the family will have to explicitly request that their organs are not used upon death.
Right now if you want to donate organs you have to jump through hoops to donate, and even then the family can deny the use if they choose. I carry a card for my wife that offers organ donation, and I am working to get into the tissue registry. An overhaul of this system is in order. This would fix organlegging. It would be nice if the system paid for a basic funeral service if the tissues were used.
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They are introducing legislation that reverses the current process with implied consent, and the family will have to explicitly request that their organs are not used upon death. Right now if you want to donate organs you have to jump through hoops to donate, and even then the family can deny the use if they choose. I carry a card for my wife that offers organ donation, and I am working to get into the tissue registry. An overhaul of this system is in order. This would fix organlegging. It would be nice if the system paid for a basic funeral service if the tissues were used. |
Where is this being done?
Province of Ontario, Canada
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