Don't let the talk slow you down... I for one am fine whatever way it is (just asking, if I find something a little weird or so ), as long as it is remotely fair.

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Thanee

Hate to break up the party that way, but the only options I see are to remain blind during the meet, keep the door open and piss off Mr. Johnson, or step outside. Merrick would trust you all to negotiate a good deal for yourselves, which would include him, and to find out what we'd need to start the run. Anything else he needs to know he can find out later - and if all ya'll were going to freeze him out on the Nuyen, he'd be screwed anyway.

Once outside and sitting down, he concentrates on the drones for the most part. However, he also does scan the signals environment to see what's happening in general, followed by a search for hidden nodes.

General scan: EW 4 plus Scan 5 = 9 dice, 4 hits.

Hidden mode scan, 9 dice, extended test for 15 hits, 4 rolls max if limited by skill: 3 hits, 5 hits, 4 hits, 2 hits. 14 hits total, not enough if skill limited. If not, a 5th roll adds 4 more hits, for a total of 18. Attempts are 1 Combat Turn each, so all scans will be complete in about 20 seconds or less.

I think even wifi inhibiting wallpaper has a rating (and reduces signal strength by that rating) but I'm not sure, and don't have my book on me. IF that's the case, as long as two of us had decent ECCM programs (not I) the group could still communicate. (or if you and all of your drones had one you could probably communicate with them from inside if they are within youradjsuted range).

Unless I am wrong and wifi blocking paint is just auto-blocked - then you're screwed unless you throw some paint-thinner on the walls.

Not going to be anyway to gets signals into or out of that room, I'm afraid. Which is why Merrick is taking the option he is. The Johnson is using a far far more effective a solution than WiFi wallpaper for ensuring signals security.

It isn't wifi blocking wallpaper, for those who scan - they'll figure out it is a very expensive faraday cage, blocking all the way down to UV wavelengths. The doorway is covered by a magnetic field producer (a series of electromagnets) that are creating the magnetic field equivalent of noise.

These things don't have a rating since they either work or they don't, right now they are working.

"Dur... Wha's a far day cage? Can I 'it it?"

Which is sad because hitting it would work.

I'm kind of assuming here everyone in the group has a basic grasp of physics, bad habit from being a physicist

Ah the faraday cage how to screw hackers greatly. Most of my players know of then and hate them...

Just a note Ophis is me. My character is Calico I hate being eyed up by fictional characters...

[EDIT] Oh and Calico's next action is a part excuse to teamwork on any role Noia makes for Ivan Negotiating.

Sorry got it the wrong way around

Hehe, if you have a useful social skill for this try it (you have influence group so anything from there). Then a perception test.

Visual perception or just a straight per+int roll?

[EDIT] to add rolls

Negotiation in support of Ivan
Cha 7 + Inf SG 3= 10
1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 5, 5 = 4 hits

Perception
Int 4 + Per 2 = 6
1, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6 = 2 hits

+visual enhance if relevant 3 dice
4, 5, 5 = 2 extra hits

By the way, england in 2070 still uses the pound But take it as equivalent to a nuyen (or so I am told by noia, anyhow).

Poke the players - sorry i drifted off for a day or two with real life

Sorry for the extended absence, had a billing problem with my ISP after changing cards and had no Internet for a couple of days

Off to IC to see what's what.

Is that last bit still him thinking to himself, about the deadline?

Oh boy. Interesting... too bad I don't know what's going on yet

Link to money laundering typologies, which may be useful: Link

I've got some ideas due to OOC experience, but I need to give some thought about whether or not they'd occur to Merrick. I'll give that some thought and have something prepared once Merrick actually finds out about what the job entails.

One question Gretik: how detailed are you going to get with the methods they're using to launder the money? The reason I ask is that like I said, each RL method has certain characteristics that can be detected through various means. If you're not wanting to get into much detail with the method used and how ops within this money laundering shop are done, that's fine, but knowing that will change how I approach this.

Can we even see the map through all the steam?

j/k

Bye
Thanee

How detailed i'll get depends on how much legwork you guys do

If you guys do bugger all legwork i won't have to do much detail.

Oh the steam and the map Actually it makes it easier, though the definition is slightly worse, its like laser beams and clouds of dust - it makes it seem brighter if a bit fuzzier.

Grrr Ophis is me, Calico is the character!!!!

Just reminding you...

okies perception to spot whats on the pad

intuition 4+ Perception 2+vision enhance 3=9

2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 4, 6, 6= 2 hits

well i doubt thats enough...

Go for it wolfen, if your character is at the table anyhow.

The 2 hits for ophis are enough to give you the impression that its a series of numbers preceded by a £... You aren't sure how many figures.

I'll have Crow not roll perception since he's not going to be overly snoopy in front of the Johnson. Since we've worked together before, and decided to let Ivan handle negotations this time - Doc Crow trusts his judgement and assumes Ivan will debreif us later.

5 hits on Scarlet's Perception Test.

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Thanee

Arse! I fell off the grid for a few days there, sorry guys.

For those who got 3 or more, it's 100,000 pounds - roughly equivalent to 100,000 nuyen because i am lazy and don't want to faff around with converting prices

You could use spoiler tags (for those with 3+ hits on Perception: {spoiler}).

£ = ¥ makes sense, for simplicities sake.


@Noia: Why cash? Cash is pretty much not used anymore... certified credsticks are practically the same as cash. It's money on a stick with no connection to an owner or bank account (the owner is simply the one who has the stick).

Also, anything below 50% up front is completely unacceptable (75%-100% would be better, since we do not have to fetch/deliver anything, actually).

Bye
Thanee

Stupid question (updated )... everyone other than Scarlet and Calico (who are both elven) is human, right?

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Thanee

Calico is an Elf.

I actually thought so initially (well, it makes sense for a conjurer ), but couldn't find that mentioned anywhere... heh.

I have seen it in the middle of her description now. Must have missed that earlier, when skimming the various descriptions for metatypes.

But everyone else is human, yes?

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Thanee

He's offering nothing up front, simply because he absolutely zero trust with you guys. If your group doesn't like it then he'll find another, course as he said you can request some funds for preperation, but you'll have to have a reason.

It's assumed you guys have enough put over for yourselves to live (if not particularly well) for the next few months.

Yes, Dr. Crow is human.

Had ot make a few edits after my post, but its all set now.
Probably walking on very thin ice with the Johnson... but to me, it sounds like a job interview, where the company wants you to pay to fly out there and interview. If you don't get the job, the company isn't out anything (since they didn't invest anything in you) and you're out quite a bit of money for taking a chance at a job.

That's just not how things are done in my world. Dr. Crow's world either.

I know he said we could come beg for money when/if we need it - but that sounds like it would just take time and be a hassle. If he wants to throw money at us (money he intends to give us anyways, I hope) then we'll be more efficient, and if we dfinish quickly, without using all the money (or spend it on other things that his little helper monkey might not approve of if we requested it) ... there is no loss to him, since he was going to give us the money anyways.

Dr. Crow is ready to walk - but I can't make the decision for the team... all I can do is try to get hte Johnson riled up... and start thinking about how to use my Shadow-contacts to make sure nobody else is willing ot take this guy's job either.

Playing a little hardball, I suppose, but be-damned if I am going to write a personal check for some bullshit bribe or tip or something we end up having to pay for.

Quick question:

He doesn't have anything like all of it with him, that's the amount he is willing to give you during the legwork... Thats a really bad save, i made a small mistake there - still, he isn't going to give you guys most of the money up front.

Hehe, this guy is going to be a hardass about it and you guys are perfectly entitled to just walk out on the offer and seek alternative work.

No problem, just want to be sure what is being said.

And the £100,000 is what amount then? The total pay ( ) or the 'small percentage' he is willing to give us now to start ( )?

Also, what should we (in your eyes) consider a reasonable payment for a job like this (fairly difficult, dangerous opposition)?

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Thanee

It's the ~10-20% starting bit.

Go figure at how hard this will end up being and why he isn't going to just hand you guys half up front. As far as you know, this is alot more than most jobs would pay - but you've been told to remove a money laundering operation by any means.

This is almost the equivalent of signing a contract where the fine print is in invisible ink, primarily because noone (most likely including the johnsen) knows how deep and powerful this organization is going to run.

If this were as simple as knocking off one chinese takeaway he wouldn't be talking to you guys.

It isn't quite as bad as that, but the money you'll get to start is sizeable and will cover a fair bit of your legwork expenses most likely including stocking up on various things and the odd bribe.



By the way - 3 hits is enough to notice that his hands look like they have been very carefully, very expensively augmented. It's hard to notice but they're right there and most of you have experience such things. (Doc would easily spot it if it weren't for the fact he's all the way over there.)

Very large, enough for a person to retire comfortably, or to wire half the team up the wazoo.

money laundering.....MONEY....laundering....need I say more?

Just to note, the tablet gives the earmarked number of 100k, which people who rolled well have seen - the rest of the tablet gives more information that at the moment only ivan will have seen since it requires scrolling.

For him, the total fee is roughly equivalent to 750,000 nuyen (pounds aren't quite equal to nuyen).

Perception rolls

Int 4 + Perception 2

2,4,4,4,4,5 (for the tablet)
3,4,5,5,6,6 (for the Johnson)

Way to waste a great roll Jason...

(edited to make it more clear)

WHoa, holy shit. I guess I read it wrong the first time then. I thought 100,000 was the total pay, and that we were attempting to negotiate for *something* up front.

If the total pay is higher than that, and he's willing to give us 100,000 up front, I say we accept now before he takes back his offer because I was mouthing off!!!!!

Yeah, Calico mouthed off because things weren't being clear.
Now I'm worried thats a lot of money...

I suppose I would rather worry about being paid a lot of money to do something that is going to be dangerous than worrying about being paid tight-fistedly to do something that is going to be dangerous.