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Platinum
http://www.cellantenna.com/CJAM/cjam_1000.htm

I was looking at trying to buy one of these 6 months ago. You need to be a government agency really, but having one of these puppies an really cause some headaches for companies/facilities.

If I bought one I would drive around with it, just to piss of the morons with cellphones that cannot pay attention when they drive.
Backgammon
That's really cool. Especially how you can jam certain areas and not jam others. It always pissed me off how SR jammers are blind AOE communications bombs.
Fix-it
hah. you can build one of those with 20$ worth of parts from an electronics surplus store. (not radio shack, they're worthless)

it might not have the power/features, but it will get the job done.

what I'm doing now is working on a Wifi jammer.
Platinum
if you get the schematics done let me know ... I will but a huge aerial so I can jam the phones/wifi on my block. I have 6 signals beaming into my house. Till I get my tinfoil siding I am just going to make their lives miserable.
El_Machinae
If my knowledge of physics is correct, jamming the signal doesn't prevent it from entering your brain. Maybe the useful "manchurian" data is lost, but then you're just getting scrambled orders from your master.

Why not just piggyback on them instead?
Platinum
it doesn't stop it from entering my brain, but it makes it completely unusable. which means after a month, people will have given up, and I can turn it off.
El_Machinae
Why do you object to them having those signals? Does it interfere with anything?
Platinum
Yes I object to having these signals pollute my household environment. I do not have wireless devices in my house. The research is still inconclusive, on whether so much bombardment is safe. I prefer to err on the side of caution. I also have young kids which it has been suggested are more vulnerable.
Lindt
Im going to wire one into my car... right next to my rader spoofer.
Austere Emancipator
Get rid of low levels of potentially harmful EM wave pollution by using a vastly more powerful transmitter of your own. That's brilliant.
Kagetenshi
QUOTE (Backgammon)
That's really cool. Especially how you can jam certain areas and not jam others. It always pissed me off how SR jammers are blind AOE communications bombs.

Have you read the MIJI rules? They're nothing of the kind, though the brute-force approach is of course available.
QUOTE
The research is still inconclusive, on whether so much bombardment is safe.

Ignoring the fact that the research is not inconclusive at all, merely incomplete, what you would be doing is making the problem worse. Your method is a guarantee that every device in the radius, including your jammer, will be operating at full power. At best, that means you've got one more device pumping EM radiation into you (and this one with a source far closer to you, unless you've got a plot of land away from your house), at worst you increase the total amount of EM activity.

~J
El_Machinae
I can see the logic.

A month of EM jamming might bring a few years of EM silence. I have a feeling the property law will quickly come into the modern age if more people do this. They can certainly show suffering damage by signals leaving your property. Your only counter will be to try to show that you suffered damage by their signals entering your property.
Lindt
Oh I dont care about EM fields, Im sure the orage juice I drink will give me cancer faster anyway. And if that dosent, Im SURE the coffee I drink will.

I just wanna turn off peoples cell phones on the highway.
John Campbell
QUOTE (Platinum)
Yes I object to having these signals pollute my household environment. I do not have wireless devices in my house. The research is still inconclusive, on whether so much bombardment is safe. I prefer to err on the side of caution. I also have young kids which it has been suggested are more vulnerable.

Tin foil is a lot cheaper and easier to set up.
hyzmarca
It is also far less likely to get you arrested (or killed by a FCC SWAT team).
Platinum
QUOTE (Austere Emancipator @ Mar 28 2006, 01:21 PM)
Get rid of low levels of potentially harmful EM wave pollution by using a vastly more powerful transmitter of your own. That's brilliant.

it would be in the back yard and I can shield the side facing my house.

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Tin foil is a lot cheaper and easier to set up.

You are telling me stripping off all the brick, putting several layers of tinfoil then replacing the brick can be cheaper this unit. ? Not to mention labour.

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  It is also far less likely to get you arrested (or killed by a FCC SWAT team).

well .I am not in the US so I think I am safe, we do things a little differently up here.

PBTHHHHT
QUOTE (Platinum)
You are telling me stripping off all the brick, putting several layers of tinfoil then replacing the brick can be cheaper this unit. ? Not to mention labour.

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   It is also far less likely to get you arrested (or killed by a FCC SWAT team).

well .I am not in the US so I think I am safe, we do things a little differently up here.

Or putting it up behind your drywall/interior which is easier.

up here? Sounds like you're a canuck possibly. If that's the case, just wait till we absorb your country. There's UCAS for a reason. wink.gif Actually do you even know what your laws are in regards to the transmissions?

As the others have said, you're really delusional to think that EM from cellphones are more harmful than the jammer running at full blast and you'll stop it by just shielding one side of your home? What about when you have to go out?

I guess you don't care about the people living near you, how thoughtful of ye. If you set it up, they might sue you for the health problems that you say is caused by the cell phones and are now causing it on them by deluging them with your jammer waves because you certainly believe there's health problems that stem from it. Depending on the range of the transmitter, if they are living nearby and are losing signals because of it, they may have a cause of action against you to stop using that jammer since your waves are intruding upon their space (depending on canadian property law and such).

Also you have to worry about the power cost, the monthly bill to have the jammer on all the time. Isn't it cheaper, one time cost to line the interior of your abode with tinfoil? Not the brick, but the interior which is much, much cheaper, unless you live in some sort of dwelling that has brick on the interior too.
Kagetenshi
QUOTE (Platinum)
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   It is also far less likely to get you arrested (or killed by a FCC SWAT team).

well .I am not in the US so I think I am safe, we do things a little differently up here.

You clearly underestimate the long arm of the FCC.

~J
Platinum
well ... it would still be alot more expensive to strip all the drywall then put tin, then rehang and pain drywall.

I would not do a whole face of the house ... I would just put shielding on the side of the box at most it would take 1/2 a square meter.

As for the invasion, it is going to happen, and we are stockpiling. I am wondering how many attrocities the US can wrack up in the name of freedom. I can hear your president now, "Well they were a democratic country and an alliy, but I heard there was a terrorist with a weapon of mass destruction in there so, it justifies invading them"
Platinum
QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Mar 28 2006, 03:55 PM)
QUOTE (Platinum @ Mar 28 2006, 02:15 PM)
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  It is also far less likely to get you arrested (or killed by a FCC SWAT team).

well .I am not in the US so I think I am safe, we do things a little differently up here.

You clearly underestimate the long arm of the FCC.

~J

Well 1, I would expect the rcmp woud intervene, but that would only happen if planes start experiencing problems, so I would need to shield the top as well. No one in the neighbourhood I live in would be able to figure it out. The power draw would not be too bad, it is not broadcasting in the megawatt range. I think you underestimate our laws. Remember file sharing is not still not illegal up here. Our RCC takes its time.
Kagetenshi
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Platinum
<bahh edited out since K pulled his>
John Campbell
QUOTE (Platinum)
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Tin foil is a lot cheaper and easier to set up.

You are telling me stripping off all the brick, putting several layers of tinfoil then replacing the brick can be cheaper this unit. ? Not to mention labour.

I was thinking more the ever-popular and stylish hat.
PBTHHHHT
Once can never beat the stylish hat. But if one is really into protecting their family jewels from harmful waves, a new line is coming out with tinfoil boxers and jockstraps... wink.gif

edit: sorry, had to edit the 'hate' to 'hat'. Hehe. ooops. that wouldn't have made sense.
ShadowDragon8685
Hatred is always stylish.
PBTHHHHT
QUOTE (Platinum)
As for the invasion, it is going to happen, and we are stockpiling. I am wondering how many attrocities the US can wrack up in the name of freedom. I can hear your president now, "Well they were a democratic country and an alliy, but I heard there was a terrorist with a weapon of mass destruction in there so, it justifies invading them"

Nah, why bother invading. With the proximity to Canada and your unprotected borders we can have a strike team at your abode during the night, kick down your door, throw a flashbang to confuse you, shoot you with <lethal or nonlethal weaponry>. And then be back over the border in time for breakfast. If we chose to take ye, we'll just put ye up in a nice Carribean bungelow where our intelligence officers can work ye over...

See, no invasion needed.
El_Machinae
I think that we should just be gentlemanly about the whole thing (to avoid civilian casualties and affecting the stock market).

How about we just race to see who can torch the Whitehouse (or PM's mansion) first, again?

That seems to work other times we're at war, and look at our lovely relations now.
John Campbell
QUOTE (El_Machinae)
How about we just race to see who can torch the Whitehouse (or PM's mansion) first, again?

It's right down there... 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Big white building, you can't miss it. Need torches? Gasoline? Fuel-air explosives?
PBTHHHHT
QUOTE (El_Machinae)
How about we just race to see who can torch the Whitehouse (or PM's mansion) first, again?

That seems to work other times we're at war, and look at our lovely relations now.

No fair, they have a head start. Where the heck is the PM's mansion for Canada? Heck, what is there capital? Does anybody care? wink.gif
Platinum
QUOTE (John Campbell)
QUOTE (El_Machinae @ Mar 28 2006, 04:40 PM)
How about we just race to see who can torch the Whitehouse (or PM's mansion) first, again?

It's right down there... 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Big white building, you can't miss it. Need torches? Gasoline? Fuel-air explosives?

I have a better idea actually .... and I would really like to see this ... a flash mob of about 500 people throw plain white packages over the fence... then bolt.
Platinum
QUOTE (PBTHHHHT)
QUOTE (El_Machinae @ Mar 28 2006, 04:40 PM)
How about we just race to see who can torch the Whitehouse (or PM's mansion) first, again?

That seems to work other times we're at war, and look at our lovely relations now.

No fair, they have a head start. Where the heck is the PM's mansion for Canada? Heck, what is there capital? Does anybody care? wink.gif

You get 2 Karma for knowing we had a Prime minister.
ShadowDragon8685
Puh-leeze, every American who watches Fox knows that Canada and England have Prime Ministers, aka "Bush's Bitches".
PBTHHHHT
QUOTE (Platinum)
You get 2 Karma for knowing we had a Prime minister.

Huzzah, I'll spend that into knowledge skill: Canadian Politics. Gawd knows, I need to know all those different parties since you operate under parliament system with your forming different governments through wooing multiple smaller parties and such, as opposed to a two-party system...

I think I'll just stick with what I learned as a history minor on French and British colonization of Canada instead. So much simpler. wink.gif
hyzmarca
QUOTE (PBTHHHHT)
QUOTE (El_Machinae @ Mar 28 2006, 04:40 PM)
How about we just race to see who can torch the Whitehouse (or PM's mansion) first, again?

That seems to work other times we're at war, and look at our lovely relations now.

No fair, they have a head start. Where the heck is the PM's mansion for Canada? Heck, what is there capital? Does anybody care? wink.gif

It's somewhere in Canada.
hyzmarca
QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685)
Puh-leeze, every American who watches Fox knows that Canada and England have Prime Ministers, aka "Bush's Bitches".

At least untill Alachia, in the guise of Queen Elizibeth III, all Commonwealth constitutions and declares her rule to be absolute sometime in in the early 2100s.
Shrike30
QUOTE (Platinum)
I have a better idea actually .... and I would really like to see this ... a flash mob of about 500 people throw plain white packages over the fence... then bolt.

Wow, I can only imagine how many people *that* stunt might get killed...
Fresno Bob
Anyone who participates in a flash mob should be killed anyway.
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