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hyzmarca
I was just looking through the 1st edition Earthdawn BBB and came across this tidbit.


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In addition to the slavers, Dis also inspires bureaucrats who create paperwork merely to look busy, rather than out of a need for the records or fondness for their work. Few activities spread boredom more effectively than generating useless records and information, and Dis spends a great deal of her time encouraging people to do just that.


I don't believe that there can possibly be a better testamentto the fact that the Passions still wield great power even now.
Valentinew
Dis has been sleeping peacefully in the depths of government wrapped in red tape....
Grinder
Dis grows stronger every day... Vestrival and Raggok too, that's quite sure. The queston is: what's with the other passions?
Ophis
The passions are dead!

Long live the passions. I went for humans being insane. Dis is dead as man rise something like Dis will arise. Though vestrial was last seen giving harle a job...
nezumi
Ah, but is Dis an individual entity with a clearly delineated birth and death, or the manifestation of an abstract concept? If it's the latter, I have no question that Dis will reappear, albeit with a different face and name.
Witness
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Witness
Why is it that every time I open my mouth on this board there's a big fat silence! Maybe I should propose using a Force 16 Air Spirit to fracture every enemy's gun barrel! Maybe that'd provoke some discussion! wink.gif
Ophis
Maybe the spirits of tumbleweeds love you?
Interesting idea on the AIs though.
Kanada Ten
System Failure sort of introduces matrix "idols", who seem different from AI, but having AI match Passions is an interesting idea.
Platinum
If someone introduces horrors and passions in the matrix ... I am going to
do this, so just walk away.
Kanada Ten
QUOTE (Platinum)
If someone introduces horrors and passions in the matrix ... I am going to
do this, so just walk away.

I've already done Horrors in the Matrix. Years ago.
James McMurray
Is that a thousand babies I hear crying?
Witness
No I think it might be the sound of Rocks Burrow. wink.gif
James McMurray
Is taht the name of the song that ends the world? I've always wondered.
Platinum
QUOTE (Kanada Ten)
QUOTE (Platinum @ Apr 12 2006, 08:42 PM)
If someone introduces horrors and passions in the matrix ... I am going to
do this, so just walk away.

I've already done Horrors in the Matrix. Years ago.

I am coming to get you. <<Eyes being to glow red>>
James McMurray
If you're going to uphold your promise you'll first have to kill yourself.

Well?


We're waiting!

wink.gif
Platinum
QUOTE (James McMurray)
If you're going to uphold your promise you'll first have to kill yourself.

Well?


We're waiting!

wink.gif

Already did... be afraid ... I am coming................
BookWyrm
Wasn't there a spirit with questionable motives named "Tutor" or something in Threats or Threats 2?
Kremlin KOA
Tutor isn't a passion, just a vindictive free spirit
Dranem
Ok, I gotta ask this - not being a fan of Earthdawn... what is Dis?
K2Grey
If I've got my ED lore right, he's one of the Passions, which are the ED equivalent of totems, and which are still followed by some guys in Tir Tairngire. In ED there weren't any shamans of the Passions like it is in SR, rather, anyone could be a questor of a Passion and get certain powers for doing so. Dis was one of them.
Kremlin KOA
Passions are closer to gods than totems

Dis is a passion who sacrificed his santy to save many mortals
Dranem
Ah, ok, think I got it... thanks.
Herald of Verjigorm
QUOTE (Dranem)
what is Dis?

Bureaucracy.
hyzmarca
Soulcrushing bureaucracy that sucks our your zest for life untill you wish that you were dead but are so apathetic don't you don't have enough passion left to actually try to kill youself.
Grinder
QUOTE (Earthdawn Players Compendium @ page 463)


Dis (Mad Passion)
Known as Erendis before the Scourge, this Passion once stood
for the ideals of Order, Bureaucracy and Work. Now, even with
her warped ideals, Dis is a popular Passion among those who
make their living from the Theran slave trade. Unlike the other
Passions, Dis takes her greatest pleasure in destroying people’s
passion for life, rather than inspiring it. She bleeds away her
worshippers’ zest for living and they in turn demoralize those
they subjugate. Eventually, the slaves and bureaucrats influenced
by this Mad Passion become empty husks, devoid of dreams and
feelings. Dis wants to extend this death of the soul throughout
the world.

In addition to the slavers, Dis also inspires bureaucrats who
create paperwork merely to look busy, rather than out of a need
for the records or fondness for their work. Few activities spread
boredom more effectively than generating useless records and
information, and Dis spends a great deal of her time encouraging
people to do just that.

Ideals: Confusion, Unnecessary Work, Complex Bureaucratic
Hierarchies, Slavery and Mastery

Typical Appearance: Dis manifests as a thin, sickly male or
female of any race, who seems to have been deprived of sunlight
and exercise for far too long.

Common Elements: Papers, papers and more papers, contracts,
tomes of ritual, slaves, chains

Powers: Dis can remove fervor from those around her and cause
confusion in their minds, make people obey her will, and teleport
instantaneously to any place she has visited before.

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