Question:

A gun slide is a mount for a pistol that whips it forward into your hand on demand. There is a cyber version, which I can understand for an obvious cyberarm, but IIRC it says that you can mount it in your flesh arm.


How the hell would that work? If you took your jacket/shirt off, where there be a gun clinging to your arm, or would you have a drawer-slide looking thing on your forearm.

I imagine you'd have some kind of slit running down your arm, with a little grabber hand poking out.

It could either come out from inside the arm, or just be mounted on the outside and wired into your nervous system.

Iirc, no cyber gun slides for bone and flesh arms, only cyberlimbs.

Cyber arm slide lists no essence cost, only available in cyber arm.

There is a non implant version available as well, it straps to your forearm and can be activated ether threw your pan or buy muscle movements. If you were not wearing a long shirt (and preferably jacket) it would be very obvious. I would also want specially tailored clothing.

Edward

I love the non cyber arm slide. It reminds me Travis Bickel from Taxi Driver and Rally Vincent from Gunsmith Cats. The cyber ones are boring to me.

I saw an old western that included one as well.


At the end the guy that carried one accidentally held up the priest at his own wedding when he went to shake hands. That’s about all I remember of that movie. Its also why my characters gun arm slide is pan enabled, no accidental activation.

Edward

Well, thats why my characters use Skinlink on everything as well as get our Decker to load my Commlink up with cracked versions of IC. *winks*

I'm not too good at describing things but if you can see that movie Alien Ressurection one of the mercenaries uses a device like this with dual pistols. Gives you a good idea of how it would really work though the only reason I can see to have one is so you can surprise an opponent who is expecting you to reach into your coat or belt for your gun.

Or the thing that Travis Bickle built and used at the end of Taxi Driver.

You better have loose sleeves on your jacket, though.

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Thanee

I'm still wondering how the hell is the cyberversion even possible on synthetic arms? They have capacity 8 iirc and the attributes alone take up 9 capacity points, so no extra-features, NOTHING. Just wondering.

well reguarding gun slides in general whats the bigest gun and whats the concelabilty factor pat dows and such?

I'm thinking of basically only allowing them with hold-outs unless you've got a bigass loose jacket on. Trying to conceal something noticeably taller than your forearm while wearing form fitting body armor can be a real pain in the ass.

He's not talking about length. Your forearm, from top to bottom, is probably not as tall as a larger .38, and a Colt .45 will show as a big bulge in your sleeve.

I wouldn't allow larger than a light pistol, unless it was something custom made for the slide and the user.

Depends on how cinematic you want to be. In the movie Equilibrium, for example, the main character has full auto heavy pistols on the slides, and wears a not incredibly loose jacket over it without noticable bulges. Course, the magic of Hollywood works wonders...

Yeah, and he's also got those spare magazines on the OTHER spring-loaded armature on his forearms...

Love that movie. Anyone who throws two weighted mags into a room so that they're upright, on the floor, in the place that he knows he's going to run out of ammunition is a hardass.

Oh yes, definitely. Hmm...wonder how we could make those reloading slides...

On a sidenote, I talked to my GM about converting a Predator IV into one of those guns (Predator IV converted for full auto, gas vent 3, an underbarrel weight to counteract a -1 "not made for autofire" modifier, and double capacity clips). For the low, low price of 1,600 ¥, you too can be a Grammaton Cleric!

I even allowed machine pistols in the armslide - because it's cool. If the user wears a wide cut coat or something. Really experienced security guards, however, would know of the type of the coat, that there is probably something hidden in his sleeve ...

"Excuse me, sir, could you hold on for a minute?"
"Sure, uh... no problem. Mind if I smoke?"
"Nah, go ahead... -Uh, Bill, there's another guy down here with one of those coats on. You wanna fire up the millimeter-wave?- ... the computer's just acting funny, been having fits trying to auth people into the building. Just gotta reboot it..."

I thought they called those SMGs.

True, but then SMGs are much larger. If you haven't seen the movie, the guns are large pistols, probably somewhere between the size of a Beretta 92 and a Desert Eagle.

They're Beretta 92's with a muzzle extension built on. I believe Tauri were used at some point in the filming, too, for budget reasons (the whole thing was made for about $20 million).

9mm is spot-on for what I'd call a light pistol round. Loading APDS would make sense, given how much stuff was shot through in the movie, but you're still sitting nicely in the realm of the machine pistol.

The models they used were Beretta 92s, yes, but they had far more power than a 9mm round in the movie. They're not actually supposed to be modified Beretta's, see, that's just what they chose to make the props from. Given the stuf those rounds go through, and the size of holes they leave, they've gotta be at least .40 or .45, and I'd venture to say they'd count as hot loads in modern rounds. But then, I'm no firearms expert either.

Even though the Beretta 92 and 96 series uses a 9mm round, it still is a fat pig. Honestly, I wouldn't allow anything bigger than a light pistol for an arm slide. In both Gunsmith Cats and Taxi Driver, only very small hold out pistols were used in the first place. Anything bigger than that wouldn't fit in my forearm anyway.

Thinking about this device a while back, I held my Glock up to my forearm for a comparison. I am a moderately sized person (6 foot, 250 pnds) and it wouldn't fit at all in my opinion. Heavy pistols just wouldn't be realistic there.

Glock subcompacts are about the biggest gun I'd let someone put in an arm slide, and that would only be on a large-ish character. You get any bigger than that, and you've got to start wearing those hugeass robes around that just look silly...