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Shadow
I am looking for some players who are interested in playing a Delta Force type team for the CAS. As my other game, each character will be fulfilling a specific role in the team. So please when you submit your full and complete character, have his role spelled out long with your DSF handle.

This is a game based on my knowledge of how the real world military operates. Not any thing published(Fasa/Fanpro). The Setting is 2064 and we will be using 3rd ed rules.

House Rules

Only 1 troll or 1 Ork is allowed, not both.
Only 1 Elf or 1 Dwarf is allowed, not both.
No Variant races allowed.
Only 1, non mage, awakened character.
Use of Rayguns Weapons and Ammo is mandatory.

Character Creation
125 Points
+30 Karma
Initiation is allowed. Consider yourself part of a group when doing it.
Use money to buy your 'preferred gear' load out. Don't worry about life style or vehicles.

Advice to get in

Be Authentic. Look up some Army terminology, schools, whatever and use them.
Have nice clean sheets. Only send me finished characters on easy to read sheets.

When you are submitting your character, please specify the roll and rank he will fulfill. This is a military game, if you have problems taking orders from someone, don't submit.

Positions

1st LT - Squad Leader - General Combat Specialist
Sergeant First Class - Second in command - General Combat Specialist.
Staff Sergeant - Third in command - Sniper/Scout
Staff Sergeant - Fourth in command - Medic/Mage
Sergeant - Fifth in command - Demolitions/anti - vehicle
Sergeant - Sixth in command - Heavy weapons

You will notice there is no Decker/Rigger slot, don't submit one.

All characters must have the following skills and attributes of at least 4. How you get them is up to you. But you do not get them for free.

Body
Strength
Quickness
AR
SMG
Survival
Etiquette Military
Military knowledge
Athletics
Stealth
Parachuting


If your the mage and this means you have to take less spells so be it. Having a special skill like magic doesn’t mean you can be a weakling and make it to the CAS Delta.

Ask questions if I didn't cover something.
Mister Juan
If I wasn't already in too many games/projects, I would SO apply for this one.
Damn you Shadow!
Kiedo
Good luck with that, I wish it were SR4...
JDragon
This makes me wish I knew how do SR 3rd ed.

I just started SR with 4th ed so have no info on 3rd. Oh well - looks like a fun game.

JDragon
Shadow
QUOTE (Kiedo)
Hmm, it's SR3, but...

Ah what the heck, I'll submit a sniper/scout for you to mull over.

I have a few questions though.

What branch of the military, you said army, but some folks use that as a blanket term for military.

Can my sniper be a warrent officer (I was thinking CW2 or CW3), assigned to the unit in a joint venture project. I'm not sure what level warrant officer commands enlisted ranks, like staff sargent or the like. I'll try to research a little deeper to find out, and if it turns out that a warrent officer 1 has rank over any enlisted person I'll have to scratch that idea.

And what about surge?

Branch: Is the CAS Army, Special Forces - Delta.

Warrant officers are "technical" positions int he millitary. Helicopter pilots, technician, administrative personel, etc. It is a rank that grants you oversight of all enlisted, but no officers. Warrant Officers are generally not in the SF, so no.

The Unit is all army, all SF, all stationed together. Not JOC.

No Surge.
Raiko
JDragon: You can pretty much build a SR3 character using NSRCG, without owning the books. I'm sure other people would help you with rules questions.

Remember to submit them in a different format though (see Shadow's house rules).

Shadow: I'm going to try and build either a sniper/scout or a demolitions guy. When would you like submissions by?
FrostyNSO
If I can play around my phys therapy schedule (erratic post times) I'd like to try and put together a guy for the 1lt or 1stsgt spot.

edit: Also, can I flat-out skip purchasing gear (like guns/armor) and just requisition from what the unit has available (or whatever is available locally...i.e. requisition gear from the security team's armory on whatever base we stage from)? Realistically, I'd wait to hear the parameters of the mission before choosing a "preferred" loadout.
Chance359
How soon are you wanting submissions?
Shadow
I'm not in any hurry. I will give everyone a week to hash out ideas here, and another to make the actual character.

Call it, June 9th.
HMHVV Hunter
Ooooo, I have a good template for that Heavy Weapons guy.

Someone else posed a question like this, though - what's the availability cap?
Shadow
A16/R10

Remember, weight is an issue.
Shadow
QUOTE (FrostyNSO)
If I can play around my phys therapy schedule (erratic post times) I'd like to try and put together a guy for the 1lt or 1stsgt spot.

edit: Also, can I flat-out skip purchasing gear (like guns/armor) and just requisition from what the unit has available (or whatever is available locally...i.e. requisition gear from the security team's armory on whatever base we stage from)? Realistically, I'd wait to hear the parameters of the mission before choosing a "preferred" loadout.

Initially I was gonna say no, but yeah, go ahead.

The mission will be deep inseretion with a long travel across enemy territory.
MK Ultra
I´d like to aply for one of the general combat spec positions. Probably a human, former spotter from a sniper/scout team. I´d be cool with the 1st Lt. as well as with the 2nd in command, so I´ll do bg to fit both positions.

The purcasing gear later thing still dos mean, we should put ressourcepoint aside, for guns/gear, kind of the gear allowance, the soldier has, based on their contacts and previous performance (similar to the ressource pool optional rule for spy games in SOTA64), right?

Another question, is the number of Adepts restricted for this game?
Shadow
Only 1 non mage, awakened character allowed.

Make a character for a specific spot, I wont accept characters labled for more than one slot.
HMHVV Hunter
Another thing: you said we have to use Raygun's weapons. Can we still use some SR weapons as well?

And another thing, while I'm at it: how "authentic" is this game going to be? Authentic as in "no room for witty banter once in a while," like you see in some movies?
MK Ultra
Ok, then I´ll do a Sergeant First Class - Second in command - General Combat Specialist.
Would the idea of a former spotter interfering with the sniper/scout, or would that be ok?
Shadow
QUOTE (Mk Ultra)

Would the idea of a former spotter interfering with the sniper/scout, or would that be ok?


As long as he is able to shoot something other than a Sniper rifle effectively, then yes this is fine.


QUOTE (HMHVV Hunter)
Another thing: you said we have to use Raygun's weapons. Can we still use some SR weapons as well?


Sure, but it will hurt your chances to get in the game. The SR guns lack a lot of flavor that the Raygun games bring in.

QUOTE (HMHVV Hunter)

And another thing, while I'm at it: how "authentic" is this game going to be? Authentic as in "no room for witty banter once in a while," like you see in some movies?


Witty banter is fine. All close knit teams have that sort of thing. Malicious behavior or insubordination is not ok. If you have never been a soldier I know it’s hard to understand that a single misspoken word can get you thrown in jail. Or that when orders are given its on pain of incarceration that they be followed. So I will cut some people some slack. But not much smile.gif
TheOneRonin
If there is still room, I'd like to toss my name into the hat for the 1st Sgt spot. I'm thinking a guy who came from an ODA...weapons sgt. Did a lot of trainging guerillas...probably in the Yucatan. An extremely rough, no-bullshit sort of guy.

Let me know if the spot is still open, and I'll throw together an actual character.

ronin3338
What no Tunnel Rat? nyahnyah.gif

(I wouldn't be able to play, but the first character I made in SR4 was a tunnel rat, albeit non-military)
Shadow
QUOTE (TheOneRonin)
If there is still room, I'd like to toss my name into the hat for the 1st Sgt spot. I'm thinking a guy who came from an ODA...weapons sgt. Did a lot of trainging guerillas...probably in the Yucatan. An extremely rough, no-bullshit sort of guy.

Let me know if the spot is still open, and I'll throw together an actual character.

Plenty of room, people are just tossing around character ideas. I suggest you all figure out who is submitting for who to maximize your chances.
Antihero
I would like to toss in on the demo expert. And since it has been a very long time (2 yrs) since I played shadowrun, I'll allow him to be the boot sgt if no one minds.

Working on the background as we speak (or read as the case may be.)
MK Ultra
QUOTE (Shadow @ May 28 2006, 11:36 AM)
I suggest you all figure out who is submitting for who to maximize your chances.

QUOTE (FrostyNSO)
If I can play around my phys therapy schedule (erratic post times) I'd like to try and put together a guy for the 1lt or 1stsgt spot.


So, which one would you prefer? I´d apply for the other one.

Besides, I´m not intending to take a Metahuman, so everyone else aiming for one, no competition from this side. Though I´ll probably submit an Adept (unless all you people post that you are submitting adepts nyahnyah.gif).
Chance359
Due to some prior commitments, I'm going to have to withdraw application, good luck too all who join.
Whizbang
*puts down a note of interest in the sniper/scout position* Will get down to background and char gen once I get off work today.
FrostyNSO
I'm putting in for the 1st Sgt spot. Human with a little ware, general combat guy.
MK Ultra
QUOTE (FrostyNSO)
I'm putting in for the 1st Sgt spot. Human with a little ware, general combat guy.

Hum, ok, since nobody seems to like the spot too much (I´d rather be second, either) I´ll submit for the Lt.
Human mundane (trying to get a tactical computer, but can´t prommis), otherwise put some points into leadership and tactics.
TheOneRonin
Dang...too slow. MK...are you dead set on the Lt spot? I was trying to feel out if Frosty wanted the Lt or Top spot, but if he is going for Top, I was gonna gun for the CO spot.

Let me know if you are willing to compromise on this or not.
PBTHHHHT
If I'm not taking the bar this summer then I'd love to join in on this game. I'd volunteer for the 4th in command/Sgt position as a medic.

edit: I'd also make a human character so I won't take up the slot of metas. Just a standard general issue human for the medic slot. He'll fire his gun but also patch up his squadmates when it's needed. Plus, I was thinking depending on his region of specialty from his background to learn the rudimentary of at least two other languages in case he'd have to with the natives and gain brownie points if they have to deal with the locals by providing some basic healthcare.
HMHVV Hunter
Forgot to mention rank:

My Heavy Weapons guy would be fine at sixth in command.
FrostyNSO
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Whizbang
Hmm....anyone else looking at adept? *is still debating whether to design as an adept or mundane*
FrostyNSO
...and here is my sheet.

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Antihero
I've got him almost done. Since I haven't seen anybody go for the metas, Sgt Sean Fernandez will be an ork most likely. He has mostly a Combat Engineer background with training as a Sapper and Ranger.

I'll do the same as frosty tomorrow or wednesday. I didn't get as much chance to work on him as I thought I would this weekend.
MK Ultra
QUOTE (Raiko)
JDragon: You can pretty much build a SR3 character using NSRCG, without owning the books. I'm sure other people would help you with rules questions.

Remember to submit them in a different format though (see Shadow's house rules).

Shadow: I'm going to try and build either a sniper/scout or a demolitions guy. When would you like submissions by?

Raiko, what are you submitting now? I´d be heavyly interested in the sniper/scout, if you take the EOD guy smile.gif

QUOTE (TheOneRonin)
Dang...too slow. MK...are you dead set on the Lt spot? I was trying to feel out if Frosty wanted the Lt or Top spot, but if he is going for Top, I was gonna gun for the CO spot.

Let me know if you are willing to compromise on this or not.


I sattled for the Lt. because I wanted either a general combat spec or a sniper/scout and the Lt. was the only one, noone posted to submit for, yet.

If Raiko goes for the Demolitions spec, I´d be happily submitting for the Scout/Sniper!
In fact, as I´m more eager to play that one, I´ll drop taking the Team Leader, no metter, what Raiko replys.

So since no untended position is there anymore, I´ll submit for

Human, Staff Sergeant - Third in command - Sniper/Scout

QUOTE (Whizbang)
*is still debating whether to design as an adept or mundane*


Me, too (*has to juggle some points first), so let me know what you´r doing smile.gif
Whizbang
QUOTE (MK Ultra)
QUOTE (Whizbang)
*is still debating whether to design as an adept or mundane*


Me, too (*has to juggle some points first), so let me know what you´r doing smile.gif

Well, if we're aiming for the same spot (scout/sniper) don't see how there would be much conflict in either of us picking the adept spot.
MK Ultra
Oh, ok, didn´t know, that you where going for the Sniper, too frown.gif
TheOneRonin
Okay, here's my submission for the Team Leader position.

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Stats are forthcoming.

[edit]Added more background/personal info[/edit]
TheOneRonin
Hey Frosty, if you and I both get our slots in this game, do you want to have Glavez and Knight know each other from the Aztlan operations? Perhaps even served on the same team?
TheOneRonin
Okay, here are the stats for "Church" (nod to Frosty's format)

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Edit: Forgot to spend extra Karma
Edit: Added typcial field gear (not mission specific)
Shadow
The Questions:

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And the answers:
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HMHVV Hunter
"Church?" Damn! I was gonna use that!

Guess I'll have to go with Grif, Caboose or Tucker nyahnyah.gif
FrostyNSO
QUOTE (TheOneRonin @ May 30 2006, 01:49 PM)
Hey Frosty, if you and I both get our slots in this game, do you want to have Glavez and Knight know each other from the Aztlan operations?  Perhaps even served on the same team?

Canary did a lot of TDY, so he wasn't in Aztlan for nearly as long as Church so being on the same team would take a bit of creativity. But I could definately see the two's teams working together at some point in that timeline and the two having met and worked together.
PBTHHHHT
Hmmm... gonna be interesting, I'm gonna make a character who primarily operated in the Northwest region, mainly Tsimshian and Salish region.
Wounded Ronin
Well, you know, this sounds like a really interesting game that I'd like to play. However, since I don't know very much about how t3h real military works, I don't think I'd be a very good candidate, since there seems to be a high level of background knowledge expectation here.

I've played a lot of America's Army and read some Vietnam War memoirs but I think that the only thing I learned about t3h real military is that no-one listens to the second lieutenant.

And that during the Vietnam War a lot of commanding officers were poor leaders, apparently, based on the memoirs I've read.
HMHVV Hunter
QUOTE (Wounded Ronin)
Well, you know, this sounds like a really interesting game that I'd like to play. However, since I don't know very much about how t3h real military works, I don't think I'd be a very good candidate, since there seems to be a high level of background knowledge expectation here.

Yeah, that's something else I'm wondering about - do we really need all that background knowledge from having been in the military? I really don't have the time to do homework in preparation for a game.
Wounded Ronin
QUOTE (HMHVV Hunter)
QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ May 31 2006, 12:59 AM)
Well, you know, this sounds like a really interesting game that I'd like to play.  However, since I don't know very much about how t3h real military works, I don't think I'd be a very good candidate, since there seems to be a high level of background knowledge expectation here.

Yeah, that's something else I'm wondering about - do we really need all that background knowledge from having been in the military? I really don't have the time to do homework in preparation for a game.

Well the GM sure made it sound like that in the first post. He asked everyone to do research and said that he could cut "some" slack but not a lot.

I have a feeling from that first post that after watching this game unfold I should be able to know all about t3h r34l small infantry units down to group dynamics and typical casual conversation topics.

I'm already imagining the following conversation:

Me: I know all about t3h r34l military because I followed this really detailed game on the internet.

Military veteran: *pulls out old service M9 and puts a single Geneva-convention-approved 9mm FMJ round in my brain pan*
Shadow
Ok ok so I came on a little strong about the needing to know the real millitary. I don't think you need to have been in the millitary to play this game, but some knowledge of it would work, like if you have seen Band of Brothers, and maybe Platoon.

I just wanted to make sure everyone knew this wasn't the typical "millitary game" where people were Shadowrunners in Uniform. The real military is a lot different then that.

Fell free to apply Ronin and anyone else.
HMHVV Hunter
Hmmm...is "Full Metal Jacket" good enough?
Shadow
I guess it would do, Kubrick didn't know squat about the Marines.

Just take your cues from the other characters and you should be fine.
HMHVV Hunter
Any update on the demolitions guy? I might decide to play him instead of the heavy weapons guy if anyone wants to switch (or if no one's submitted anything yet)
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