zeb.hillard
Aug 9 2006, 08:22 PM
Blade Runner leaps to everyone's minds, but what else is there out there that puts your mind into "Shadowrun Mode?"
Personally, I've always seen The Running Man as something with potential, regardless of Arnie's acting capabilities. But, are there things that just scream "Shadowrun" that you all would suggest?
Me and my Blockbuster online account challenge you to test our movie watchingness.
PBTHHHHT
Aug 9 2006, 08:30 PM
zeb.hillard
Aug 9 2006, 08:31 PM
Danke.
Shame on me for not checking forum history, I suppose.
Nidhogg
Aug 9 2006, 08:31 PM
Johnny Mnemonic.
Do *you* have parents and stuff?
Mr. Unpronounceable
Aug 9 2006, 08:33 PM
Well, there's Strange Days...
which is basically about a BTL dealer who gets involved tracking down the source of snuff BTLs.
Schaeffer
Aug 9 2006, 08:33 PM
As far as my group goes...
The Usual Suspects
Ronin
Serenity
Heat
Soldier
Escape From New York/LA
Nemesis
Mission Impossible
Blade 1&2
Clear and Present Danger
Total Recall
Proof of Life
Vampires
bigdrewp
Aug 9 2006, 08:34 PM
Johnny Mnumonic, Strang Days, Dark Angel (a TV show but still) there are others but that is what I can think of off the top of my head.
Critias
Aug 9 2006, 08:34 PM
Shh. Everyone just be very quiet, and let this thread go away on it's own.
PBTHHHHT
Aug 9 2006, 09:03 PM
That's what I was hoping when I put up the links. *sigh*
hyzmarca
Aug 9 2006, 09:24 PM
I know that I shouldn't contribute to another movie thread, but I just saw this excellent movie called Romasanta but released in the United States as Werewolf Hunter.
As a word of warning, there are no werewolves in this movie. There is no magic and the technology is limited to what would be found in 1851.
It is about a guy named Romasanta, supposedly the world's first documented serial killer. He was convincted of murdering 15 people and confessed to murdering many more.
What the movie lack in magic it makes up for in decomposed boobies, 19th century autopsies, implied cannibalism, and the explicit scraping of body fat from the butts of corpses.
Romasanta was a fine piece of work. An elegant gentleman, he would seduce women and become close to them. When they let down their guard he would kill them, eat them, and use their body fat to make soap. Their remains would be dumped in the woods and many of the attacks would be blamed on wolves. He is a twisted social adept by any other name.
He had an unsophisticated accomplice whom he had convinced that they are both werewolves. The accuracy of that claim is very much in doubt; there is an explicit scene in which a wolf transforms into Romasanta, but that was purely in the flashback of a deranged man. It is possible that Romasanta could be an Shadowrun style Shapeshifter but there is reliable evidence to support this. He actually does use lycanthropy as a defense at his trial, successfully (as the real Romasanta did). But, while he claims to be a werewolf we never see a transformation outside of an insane flashback. We never see him regenerate, but the only major wound he receives is inflicted with a silver weapon. While the real-life Romasanta is clearly insane, the movie goes to great lengths to let the viewer decide if that is true or not regarding the film version.
There is also some ambiguity in the relationship between Romasanta and his final lover, around which the movie revolves. In the beginning, they are apparently devoted to each other and Romasanta's apparent devotion never wanes, even after she discovers the truth and turns against him.WHe are left to wonder if he truly loved her unconditionally or if he is just that good at playing people and simply didn't have a chance to finish his game with her.
The quality of Werewolf Hunter is quite excellent. The acting is superb. You are literally feel the emotions of the man characters. The special effects and minimal, never cheesy, and always believable.
I'd also like to recommend The Russian Specialist, The Cutter, and Manos: The Hands of Fate.
The Russian Specialist is a generic action movie starring Dolf Lundgren as some sort of specialist from Russia. The violence is nice. I couldn't bear to sit through it.
The Cutter is the worst movie that Chuck Norris has ever made. It may be the worst action movie ever made.Every bit of it is cheesy. It has evil Nazis.
Manos: The Hands of Fate is regarded as the worst movie ever made, supplanting Plan Nine From Outer Space. It is that bad. But, it does have half-naked women being fondled by a Satyr in their sleep. That has to count for something. Incidentally, Manos means hands. Therefore, the full English title of the movie is Hands: The Hands of Fate.
PBTHHHHT
Aug 9 2006, 10:16 PM
Speaking of bad movies, I saw bits of a Lundgren movie called Bridge of Dragons. It was bad, you have a world that is western in feel with asian royalty (like the princess), soldiers similar to nazis in outfit, people bartering for slaves and horses while interspersed with helicopters and cars. Oh yeah, the princess runs off before her marriage with the evil general to join with the rebels and our hero is sent after her to recover her. They fall in love and work together against the general who had killed the king so he could marry the princess and take over and blah blah blah.
Manos: The Hands of Fate, that was a feature on Mystery Science Theater 3000 years back.
SL James
Aug 9 2006, 10:18 PM
Indeed. For a long time it had the honor of being the Worst Movie ever on the IMDb (before people saw Ed Wood and bought into the mythos of Plan 9 from Outer Space).
PBTHHHHT
Aug 9 2006, 10:24 PM
Hmmm... if wiki is right, the movie was made on a bet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Manos%22_T...e_Hands_of_FateHmmm... a film on a 19,000 dollar budget.
eightball1011
Aug 10 2006, 02:16 AM
Left out Blade, The Professional, The Saint, Boondock Saints, The Jackal, and Snatch
coolgrafix
Aug 10 2006, 06:24 PM
Blade was mentioned.
Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead, however, was not. For shame.
PBTHHHHT
Aug 10 2006, 06:39 PM
QUOTE (eightball1011) |
Left out Blade, The Professional, The Saint, Boondock Saints, The Jackal, and Snatch |
Have you even read the links? All have been discussed exhaustively, multiple times. When you said blade was left out, have you even read this thread itself? Look up, Schaeffer mentions blade even.
coolgrafix
Aug 10 2006, 06:42 PM
PBTHHHHT, for God's sake if someone wants to start a new movie thread, who cares? Just don't read it. =)
PBTHHHHT
Aug 10 2006, 07:16 PM
It just irked me when he didn't see one said in THIS thread.
Wolfshade
Aug 10 2006, 07:17 PM
Oddly the movie Freejack comes to mind.
HullBreach
Aug 10 2006, 08:16 PM
I try to get my runs to feel like Ronin, but for some reason the players always turn them into The Big Hit.
Butterblume
Aug 10 2006, 08:20 PM
QUOTE (Wolfshade) |
Oddly the movie Freejack comes to mind. |
I suggested freejack in one of those other threads

. (I probably even sparked your memory there

).
I'll just repeat myself here: I based my basic Lonestar patrol on this movie (I added drones, of course).
I just liked the way how Mick Jagger (with a big helmet) drove his APCs and support vehicles through the slums.
Warmaster Lah
Aug 10 2006, 10:27 PM
I know there have been millions of these threads but I'll add mine anyway!!
Not necessarily just Shadowrun-like movies but inspiration as well.
Ghost Dog
24
Oceans Eleven
Avalon
Ghost in the Shell (all day long)
Eightman After is good too for the cyberware thing.
Sin City (for that grimy back alley feel)
Aliens 2
Aliens Resurrection (Ok, but the crazy team aspect, old overrun facilities, experimental subjects.)
The Good Theif
I kind of wanted to try a Shadowrun in Space… Heh then Firefly came out…
Stargate SG1 (in some ways, sure they are more D foundation craziness but)
King Kong (A mission into the South American awakened rainforest.)
Lawnmower Man.
Munich!
Ravenous (Kind of awakened/twisted path adept thing.)
Brotherhood of the Wolf
Seven Samurai (Not really shadowrun related but I always wanted to do a run like that)
Virtuosity.
Wizards (The dang movie had the awakening in it. Just set after apocalypse.)
Minority Report.
Shanshu Freeman
Aug 10 2006, 10:58 PM
season 7
SL James
Aug 11 2006, 02:00 AM
QUOTE (Warmaster Lah @ Aug 10 2006, 04:27 PM) |
24 |
Gah, What the hell is wrong with you people?
QUOTE (Me from another one of these cursed threads) |
How do I say this politely? Oh, yes.
Fuck that shit.
Jack and his gay man-purse can blow me (Kiefer, too, and may). He's one-dimensional, Mary Sue-ish, and lacking in any appreciable characteristics that make him any more interesting to me than the mooks he kills or any of the legions of munchkin assholes I've seen in my years of gaming. The show sucks, and can't seem to carry a plot for 42 minutes that doesn't involve blowing shit up. It is poorly-paced, unrealistic, poorly-written, melodramatic tripe (and this is coming from someone who watches The OC religiously). I managed to watch the entire first season until the last two episodes when I nearly vomited at the poor writing and plot cop-outs, and the last episode... Jesus fucking christ. "Hey, you know the bad guys who have been doing all this shit for the last 23 hours? Jack killed them before the opening credits." That's a crack writing team they've got there. By which I mean, the writing team seems to be on crack.
Not to mention the fact that if he and CTU are so fucking badass, why is it that terrorists have in the last four seasons managed to penetrate every level of government to its core, release multiple WMDs, and for all intents and purposes kill umpteen thousand people without any appreciable effect? |
QUOTE |
Sin City (for that grimy back alley feel) |
Yeah, the whole movie I couldn't help but think how realistic it was...
Cleremond
Aug 11 2006, 07:21 PM
Of all the movies listed.....Ronin has the most Shadowrunny feel to it, IMHO
JonathanC
Aug 11 2006, 07:31 PM
Has anyone mentioned The Warriors yet?
HullBreach
Aug 11 2006, 08:01 PM
Oh heres a freakin goldmine of run hooks for you:
The Shield
Best damn police drama ever! Vick Mackey is kinda how I pictured Hatchetman before the...uh..."changes" he went through.
hyzmarca
Mar 25 2007, 11:28 AM
I deliberated about starting a new movie thread or bringing back this one. As much as I'd like a dedicated thread to discuss the SR implications of this particular movie, I cannot, in good conscious, create another movie thread. Moral decency compels me to set a good example by resurrecting an old movie thread which fits my topic quite well.
The movie, my friends, is
Hard Candy and it is, in my opinion, the
Single Greatest Shadowrun Movie Ever Made.What makes Hard Candy so special? Well I can't tell you because that would spoil the entire movie. It is one of those things that just grips you from beginning to end but loses some of its power once everything has been explained. Its strength is in its ambiguity and that ambiguity is played for all it is worth. It is something that should be watched fresh. But, it is the single grittiest movie I've ever seen. It is one of those films where there is no good or bad, black or white, or up or down. You've just got characters doing what they do. The movie doesn't tell you who to root for, it just tells you what happens. That is quite rare in modern storytelling.
[ Spoiler ]
Okay, spoiler tags, now. Don't say I didn't warn you. If you've seen the movie, I'd love to discuss it's pertinence to Shadowrun within spoiler tags so that those who want to enjoy it to its fullest can do so.
Hard Candy is best described as Surburban Shadowrun. It isn't big crime for big money. There are no gunfights and there is no breaking and entering, no robbery either.It is, instead, the story of a perfect wetwork operation against a normal person. It starts out like a chick movie. A 14 year old female talks to a guy online and they meet at a coffe shop. He's a 34-year-old photographer but the creepiness of the age differents quickly fades away. While there is some flirtatious talk, he acts as the perfect gentleman and is very clear about what will not be happening until she is over the age of consent. She continues to come onto him and insists that they go back to his place so that she can get a copy of a Goldfrapp concert that he recorded. When he offers her a glass of water she says that she was told never to drink something she didn't pour herself and proceeds to make herself a screwdriver, and one for him, as well. She then insists that he take some photographs of her, which he does while still remaining a perfect gentleman until he passes out due to the drug that she put in his drink.
What happens next is the single most psychologically violent movie that I've ever seen, and I'm seen some doozies. It contains a level of mental torture that no slasher flick could ever dream of approaching. As an audience member, one cannot help but feel for the victim. As the torture progresses, we learn about his lost love, his abusive aunt, and his career as a photographer. We also learn about his other photograph collection, one far less savory that the works he hangs on his walls, and we learn about his connection to a disappearance. Still, it is highly ambiguous.
He is a nice guy by all appearances, a victim, one with illegal pictures in a hidden wallsafe, but a victim nonetheless. She, on the other hand, presents herself as an avenger throughout her the torture, laying the blame for everything that happens squarely onto him and pointing out his every little flaw. Her strength, her intelligence, her cuteness, and her apparent righteousness make it difficult not to root for her, as well, up to a point. here is one moment where every man in the audience will be against her, certainly. It is impossible to watch that scene without felling the anxiety or doing to self-check just to be sure.
But, we know nothing about her. All we know is that every word she has said is a lie, she has planned everything from the beginning and intentionally used false details to distance herself from the operation. She is, the consummate professional. She controls the situation from the very begining, manipulates everything to serve her propose. She even manipulates her victim, first to make him suffer as much as is possible, and then to convince him that the only way to end his suffering is suicide. And in the end, she leave behind no evidence that is was anything but a suicide, the perfect murder, but we still don't know if she was a hired professional, a friend or loved one of the missing girl, or simply a serial killer who is far more evil than her victim could ever be. All we do know for sure is that she hates Goldfrapp.
And if there were an Oscar for best castration scene, this film would have won it.
Kyoto Kid
Mar 25 2007, 08:10 PM
...just viddied Clockwork Orange the other night (sorry. the lingo kind of sticks). I must say, seeing it on the big screen in the Cinema again after having played SR for a number of years now made me think a bit.
Society is basically on the rocks.
Gangs like Alex and his droogs run rampant and wantonly indulge in what they term "Ultraviolence" and other unsavoury acts on a nightly basis. This violence is not just limited to other groups of "droogs" but also perpetrated against the citizenry at large.
The use of drugs (Milk Plus) to enhance and heighten the experience
The use of distinctive street slang.
The police portrayed as a a brutal military-like organistion. (not unlike the description of the UK National Police in the London Sourcebook and Shadows of Europe)
People in power using those less fortunate (in this case the criminal element) to advance their own political agenda (just insert Johnsons and Corps where needed).
True there were no guns, no magic, & no meta races but these aside I could see distinct parallels to the societal setting as portrayed in Shadowrun.
Kagetenshi
Mar 25 2007, 08:15 PM
Debbie Does Dallas.
~J
Kyoto Kid
Mar 25 2007, 09:18 PM
QUOTE (Kagetenshi) |
Debbie Does Dallas.
~J |
...only if the campaign is set in Loveton by the Puayllup Barrens...
Wounded Ronin
Mar 26 2007, 12:16 AM
The Best of The Best just inspired me this weekend. It's got Midwestern auto workers with mullets battling robotic and philosophical asians. How much more SR can you get?
Thane36425
Mar 26 2007, 12:21 AM
Since this topic comes up so often, perhaps it should be stickied up top?
Kagetenshi
Mar 26 2007, 12:29 AM
Stickying is not a replacement for the search feature.
~J
Grinder
Mar 26 2007, 12:33 AM
QUOTE (Wounded Ronin) |
The Best of The Best just inspired me this weekend. It's got Midwestern auto workers with mullets battling robotic and philosophical asians. How much more SR can you get? |
Do Ninjas appear in the movie?
Wounded Ronin
Mar 26 2007, 02:31 AM
QUOTE (Grinder) |
QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Mar 26 2007, 01:16 AM) | The Best of The Best just inspired me this weekend. It's got Midwestern auto workers with mullets battling robotic and philosophical asians. How much more SR can you get? |
Do Ninjas appear in the movie? |
No, but the American taekwondo team wears black to the final tournament.
fourstring_samurai
Mar 26 2007, 03:18 AM
Payback with mel gibson.
TOTALLY shadowrun.
one of the few i think actually gets the mood right.
EDIT: i just used the search engine(yay me!), and it seems i'm the first person to mention Payback as an SR film!
WOOOO! WOOOOHOOOO!!!
BullBear
Mar 26 2007, 02:29 PM
I'm surprised no has mentioned Streets of Fire.
Perfect inspiration for low tech runs involving music.
Also, Eddie and the Cruisers (since On the Run is basically a retelling)
Grinder
Mar 26 2007, 02:59 PM
Can you give me a short description of the movie?
BullBear
Mar 26 2007, 03:31 PM
A pop idol is kidnapped by a biker gang (the bombers), so her ex-soldier, ex-boyfriend is called to rescue her.
fairly simple story and plot, however it's the combination of costumes (30's, 50's, 80's, and dystopia), sets (fluorescent lights, sewer smog, always raining, etc), and musical background that really scream Shadowrun to me.
Here. Watch the trailer and tell me it's not Shadowrun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5ucfBvOmIUAnyway, here's more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streets_of_fire
tisoz
May 24 2007, 12:07 AM
I did a search and did not see this title come up. It is not anything really violent or cyberpunk, but it helps catch a mood of the 80's.
Mr. Mom with Michael Keaton. The movie captures US attitudes towards the Japanese business takeover, japanese corporate culture, morning calisthenics at the job, etc..
DuckEggBlue Omega
May 24 2007, 01:04 AM
Just because I happened to see it the other day,
Planet of the Cannibals.
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