It's been speculated that GD's and IE's have initiate grades in the high double-digits. That's much higher than the amount of metamagics available to PC's. I was wondering what freaky awesome metamagics they'd know that we wouldn't. Speculation?

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Well.. lets say, for the sake of argument, that GD/IE are hermetic-style.

They summon everything under the sun.. there are a few dozen different types of spirit, so 1 per metamagic sounds about right?

'cept they can't summon spirits of man. Funny, that.

I''ve always wondered if they could summon loa spirits.

Correction: According to Dragons of the Sixth World, dragons cannot summon ancestor spirits of loa spirits, as they are unique to metahumanity.

They can ritually summon metal elementals from the elemental plane of metal. I don't know if that requires a metamagic or not.

Note that some Metamagics were apparently just ways of using normal metamagics. So the Tupilak were Ally Spirits that possessed spirit powers such as Accident and Fear. That doesn't require a special mtamagic anymore, so apparently heir techniques became main streamed.

This is probably true for many magical techniques. Some of the tricks of Dragons are probably just normal magic that hasn't been reseached yet (like the invention of Watcher Spirits).

-Frank

Kind of like Banishing and Dispelling from SR1.

Um, right. Or. Cause no body wants Ghostwalker summoning Baron Samedi's molesting uncle to come possess him. That would be badwrong.

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/me fish-slaps Ancient History for bad mental imagery