http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/10/29/l...n.ap/index.html

Of course, it was developed by the Israelies.

Scroll down to the bottom of the page for the weapon in question.

-Siege

The sad thing about it is that it really is a PISTOL, connected to a videocamera and a stock on a hinge. Not exactly hi-tech. Calling it a "rifle" is exaggeration since the damn thing really has an actual pistol mounted on it, albeit with an elongated barrel.

Maybe the point is that in case the video camera is busted, you can easily pop the pistol out of the chassis and fire it alone.

Next thing you know, terrorists will infiltrate the media. Scary.

"Let me try to get a better angle for this shot."

Say cheese.

The gun-in-a-camera trick has been around for a long time.

~J

I was thinking of a fun thing to do as a character who's mainly combat-oriented.

Put a camera on his gun with some good ultrasound/infrared/etc., smartlink it, then connect the camera to his eyes. Give him some good eyes to be able to place the camera image over his own. There goes your +TN for firing blindly! ;p

I wonder how iffy the recoil would be on a gun that fired at 90 degrees to the angle you're holding it at?

Just aiming that thing is going to take a hell of a lot of practice.

As Req pointed out, the recoil issues are interesting since it's technically a pistol -- never trust the media to get it right when discussing weapons. I'm also curious as to the caliber.

-Siege

I'm sure some gun-freak (I mean more gun-freak than me) can tell us exactly what pistol that is. I think it's a safe bet it's either 9mmP, .40S&W or .45ACP. I bet the recoil will be weird, and play merry hell with your aim, but it shouldn't be too hard on you physically since it's basically a heavy, stocked pistol.

Basically the entire firing mechanism would have to be forward of the "elbow-joint" because once the bullet has been fired, getting it to hang a 90 degree isn't likely.

Which means the barring some form of recoil compensation (which is going to add extra weight) to the front end of the barrel, the entire recoil will running parallel to your body, not directly against it.

Oy.

-Siege

Not sure about the gun in the link but there are a few other pics floating around the web with Glock 19s and 21s

My other thought was that if it's a pistol, then you're not quite as far away as I'd prefer to be when having to lay down, stabilize, and line up some weird shot-by-video.

What would be cooler would be to mount the gun/camera around the corner, and have it display a little screen on your side with what the camera sees. Then use a false gun on your side with inertial sensors to shoot at the images on the screen like a video game -- the real gun tracks the movements of your fake gun 1:1. Now you're in a position to aim intuitively and respond rapidly to a moving target.

Now hook the whole thing up to a wireless network so you can deploy your little corner shooter and then go back to the armored van and work it from there.

--K

And then you run out of ammo. No drop-shooting to reload for you this time!

Or just customize it with a huge clip and give it a selectable clip option... I mean, I managed to make a Sniper Rifle which had two clips of 50. One for APDS, one for Explosive!

Troll with the armor rating of an APC? Mmk... *switch to APDS*
Vampire? No problem! *switch to Explosive*

Of course, getting your hands on the APDS is a different story entirely...

Acid. Much nastier and easier to come up with.

-Siege

A curved barrel like that isn't anything new, the Germans were using one during the war. It is discribed as a US-Israeli company, "Corner Shot Holdings", anyone want to join me in incoperating "Bank Shot Holdings"? We can use the laser in the opening part of the article to melt bank vaults.

I thought the laser was far more interesting. It's good to see they are finally getting that bad-boy back in service. It shot down a drone at 20,000 feet waaay back in '96!

Er, the article says the gun consists of two parts, and they say there that its a pistol. They did get their facts right.

In a WW1 museum, I saw a periscope/angled rifle that was designed to be fired from the safety of a trench. It had two 90 degree angles, designed to angle over the edge of a trench.

Interesting but strangely practical, given the fondness of rushing machinegun nests hoping they ran out of ammo...

-Siege

I thought it looked like a glock. Useless, useless guns.

Glocks are beautiful!

I love 'em! All plastic! Can't pick 'em up on metal detectors!






















... Hehehe, okay, okay, just yanking your chains.

I'd like to add something on this seeing as how i'm a G17 owner.

I HATE my G17. I'm a lefty and glock is a right hander's gun, and I don't like double action triggers.

However, on the plus side i have no fear that when and if i ever need it, it will ALWAYS work. PERIOD.

I originally wanted a USP, a 1911 or a P99 with a single action trigger setup. Unfortunately money kept me from getting one.


i'll get down off my soap box now

BTW has anyone seen the new G37? It was on gunbroker.com. Apparently its in 45 GAP. Not 45 ACP. Any idea what a 45 GAP round looks like?

/edit

http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem....p?Item=13204530

Google all the way.

Thanks AE!

Now if i can just find a store the will accept a used G17 as a trade in.

Seems like there is a glut of G17's.


Of course 45 gap's will be more expensive than the surplus ammo i run through my current G17.