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emo samurai
BlackHat, you playing?
BlackHat
Oh, no, I never applied, but the title of the thread was interesting so I started reading the IC threads. If players start dropping off, I might be able to join in, but I've had my hands full for a while. Failed to get together characters on the last few recruitment threads . frown.gif
Fortune
You could always play in emo's other game ... Boy's Night Out? We could use another person or three, and you still have a bit of time for chargen.
bishop186
Speaking of rolls; rolling at home and just posting the numbers here is acceptable, correct? Or would you rather I do the diceroller programs/websites?
Glyph
QUOTE (BlackHat)
Really cool first IC post. Wasn't sure how much of that everyone else knew ahead of time, but even considering the thread title it surprised me. Very creative.

I kind of guessed the ghoul landlord part, since I've been following Emo's campaign thread, but the Knight Errant thing was a surprise. Nice, creative way to make getting the "rent" more challenging. biggrin.gif
emo samurai
Rolling at home's fine.
bishop186
Alrighty. Here's my starting money:

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Fortune
bishop186:

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bishop186
Fortune

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Jaid
Gremish, just thought i'd mention... the meeting with Tom is at 5:00.

i couldn't say offhand what time it is to start off, but i understant it to be morning. you've still got most of the day before you need to meet him nyahnyah.gif

which means you've got time to walk around (just don't look like you're loitering) and hope you come across a likely looking prospect for a pound of human flesh nyahnyah.gif

[edit] oh, and emo... since you never said not to buy a lifestyle, i had bought one... should we just ignore that crazy rule about "you can't buy a safehouse" and we'll assume that (since rent clearly takes another form for my main lifestyle, and is also clearly not even up to date let alone one month ahead) that the lifestyle i bought is a safehouse or something? [/edit]
Gremish
Good call good call i read it and then forgot it, whoops! Thats fine though cause Trent didn't wake up till 4 pm and wanted to go up top to cover the ground before Tom got there incase there were any "surprises" Plus he has no intention of acually paying Tom off the bat. So not much point in searching for the flesh now anyway. I'll wait to post again for everyone else to catch up tot he time of day, IE whent he meeting acually happens =P

biggrin.gif Safe way to cover my miss of the 5pm thing!

Fixed =P
Digital Heroin
As I figured, Mexico was a bust for Internet, save for cafes. If I wanted to fork out nearly $40 a night more, I could have had a place with high speed in my room, but hells no. So tonight, rather than vegitate and surf as planned, it will be drunken debauchary time.

Go drunkeness.
Jaid
ok, here goes with compiling a data sprite. i think i'll pull out all the stops (sorta) and go for rating 3:

My Roll (2 hits)

Sprite's Roll (3 hits)

....

i think i need to go have a chat with the folks at invisible castle and their loaded dice nyahnyah.gif that sprite just beat the crap out of me...

so, anyways, here's the first aid check from the medkit(6) + my logic(4) - a bunch of modifiers (total -6 by my count... )

First Aid (no hits)

ok then, so that was rather unexpected.

[edit]so then, here's the healing over time rolls:

3 hours (5 hits)
4th hour (5 hits)

if you need software rolls or anything for the drones searching, let me know, but he's not really doing anything serious. gotta rest, and i assume in depth coding is probably not the recommended way of resting wink.gif (if you feel just physical rest is sufficient, though, he will be doing his best to keep an eye on his drones from full VR as well as updating Janet to Melissa)
emo samurai
Physical rest is fine.
Glyph
Emo, two quick questions:

Like Jaid, I bought a lifestyle. How should I adjust this? Should I just assume it means she has been desperately looking for other lodgings, and will be ready to move once the "rent" thing has been taken care of? Or should I re-allocate the 6,000 that I spent on it (the quickest way would be to keep a build point instead of the 5,000 to get a specialization of Bike to her Pilot Ground Vehicle skill, then turn in the 1,000 for 500 extra starting nuyen)?


The other question - active skills are half price, but I suddenly realized that I spent my knowledge skill points normally. Are they half price too? If they are, I can re-do my knowledge skills a bit - here's what they would be if they are half price:

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emo samurai
Knowledge is half-price. Good thing I don't write rules professionally.

And lifestyle is implied. Sorry about the oversight. No need to buy one.
Glyph
So I should do the bike specialization/starting money thing, then?
emo samurai
Sure.
Fortune
QUOTE (emo samurai)
Knowledge is half-price.

Knowledge Skills are half price after the free points from Intuition/Logic are spent ... ie. extra Knowledge Skills cost 1 BP instead of 2 ... correct?
Jaid
hmmm... so now i need to think up a use for 2,000 nuyen.gif

hey emo, would it be possible to consider that the cost of non-rent related lifestyle costs (ie food, transportation, etc) plus having a guarded parking area/small workshop for my drones (ie, room enough to park the drones, plus probably room for each of the relevant toolkits)

alternately, i suppose i could invest in some more toolkits... don't have all of my B/R skills covered yet nyahnyah.gif

[edit] also, i'm not entirely sure about the drones... just how visible are their weapons? if they're pretty obvious, i'd like to remove all references to my armed drones being put to use while KE is around nyahnyah.gif

alternately, i could also invest my newfound not-totally-broke status in picking up licenses for the drone weaponry so that it's not suspicious (or, come to think of it, would a personal weapon license cover armed drones as well?)

anyways, since you never indicated one way or another whether the drones found a likely target, and it seems like the current thrust of the shadowrun is going towards "everyone is going to show up emptyhanded at the meeting unless they come up with a supergenious plot-derailer™ technique", i'll just assume he finds nothing (unsurprising, considering the place is crawling with KE) and move my post forward to the meeting. if any of this is wrong, please feel free to let me know. [/edit]
bishop186
So we don't need a living expense? Could we say for about the cost of a low lifestyle we could get all the other expenses minus rent for a medium lifestyle (that is, 2k NuYen == medium lifestyle - rent) and that would give me another 3k NuYen to play around with? That is, pretty much what Jaid is saying, only taking it a different direction. ^^;;

I think I could buy a little more ammo and another gun for the 3k while still keeping my medium lifestyle's expenses minus rent. biggrin.gif
Glyph
QUOTE (Fortune)
QUOTE (emo samurai @ Nov 27 2006, 08:20 AM)
Knowledge is half-price.

Knowledge Skills are half price after the free points from Intuition/Logic are spent ... ie. extra Knowledge Skills cost 1 BP instead of 2 ... correct?

Well, if that's the way it is, then I guess I'll revert them back. But does anyone actually do that? Buy knowledge skills after the "free" points, I mean? Even the archetypes don't waste any of their precious BP's on knowledge skills!
Fortune
I'm trying to figure out how the normal 'free' Knowledge BP costs could be halved. I mean, each point of Skill already only costs 1 (virtual) Point, as do Specializations. Is it your thinking that Knowledge Skills should actually be 2-for-1 ... as in I spend 1 (virtual) Point and get the Exotic Cooking Skill at 2? How would you halve the 1 (virtual) Point Specializations? Also 2-for-1?

Very messy!
Jaid
QUOTE (Fortune)
I'm trying to figure out how the normal 'free' Knowledge BP costs could be halved. I mean, each point of Skill already only costs 1 (virtual) Point, as do Specializations. Is it your thinking that Knowledge Skills should actually be 2-for-1 ... as in I spend 1 (virtual) Point and get the Exotic Cooking Skill at 2? How would you halve the 1 (virtual) Point Specializations? Also 2-for-1?

Very messy!

you never know...

some people might be thinking you get free BP for knowledge skills rather than free skill points.
Fortune
QUOTE (Jaid)
some people might be thinking you get free BP for knowledge skills rather than free skill points.

In that case, halving the costs would result in something approximating canon, except that even with real BP, Specializations in Knowledge Skills only cost 1 BP, so you would still run into some messy problems. biggrin.gif
Jaid
QUOTE (Fortune)
QUOTE (Jaid @ Nov 27 2006, 02:48 PM)
some people might be thinking you get free BP for knowledge skills rather than free skill points.

In that case, halving the costs would result in something approximating canon, except that even with real BP, Specializations in Knowledge Skills only cost 1 BP, so you would still run into some messy problems. biggrin.gif

can't say i've ever specialised a knowledge skill, personally, so i hadn't really noticed that nyahnyah.gif

hmmm... well, i guess you'd just keep the cost to specialise the same. it's already got a bonus vs. drawback built in, i could see it being the same cost as the basic skill points. i certainly don't see too much potential for horrible abuse.
Fortune
QUOTE (Jaid)
can't say i've ever specialised a knowledge skill, personally, so i hadn't really noticed that

Funny, I do it all the time. wink.gif nyahnyah.gif
Glyph
Yeah, I guess my knowledge skills will stay as they are, then, since I only spent the bonus points on them. Ah well, she still has what she needs there, and they'll be easier to increase now.
Digital Heroin
As I have nothing productive to say, I shall simply ask:

¿Dónde puedo comprar a un enano?
Fortune
Waar anders? Bij de dwergmarkt.
emo samurai
All I can say about your work on All I want so far is, to quote Borat, "NIIIIIIICE." And Jaid, sorry about forgetting about you. :.(...
bishop186
Emo: I'm still wondering about that lifestyle thing. Are ALL lifestyle expenses paid aside from rent, e.g. living expenses and starting caish monies, or would it be cool to, say, pay for the lifestyle grade below the one you want and say that your expenses minus rent are paid?

In my example, I took Medium lifestyle. Now, since we don't have rent, can I take 3k NuYen and use it back in the buy/build process, or at least roll a couple extra dice for in-game NuYen?
emo samurai
Just take all that money and keep it post-chargen, or use it at chargen.
bishop186
Alrighty.
Jaid
hmmm... well i'm gonna have to retroactively re-spend it then... probably on toolkits and fake armed drone licenses...

'cause otherwise i woulda definitely just payed some fat guy to get a liposuction and kept a pound of his fat nyahnyah.gif
emo samurai
Yeah, that's why the campaign idea was a secret.
Jaid
QUOTE (emo samurai)
Yeah, that's why the campaign idea was a secret.

yeah, i figured... if i'd known the pound of human flesh was literal, not figurative, i would definitely have included a street doctor contact. or, well... been seriously tempted to, anyways.

even with the limited funds i did have, i was considering going that route, but kinda figured in the name of not derailing the plot, i would just not try it nyahnyah.gif

on a side note... i r confuzzled now...

given we don't have lifestyles, just how much money do we roll for starting cash, anyways?
emo samurai
Low lifestyle, all around. Sorry I didn't consider this before.
bishop186
Emo:

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Fortune
You have it right about the starting nuyen ... I was the one who was misreading it before. embarrassed.gif smile.gif
Jaid
ok, emo, i figure you're gonna want some data search rolls.

Just for your reference, she'll be running my browse and edit programs (for finding and compiling the list)

so then, here's the rolls

(for your summarised viewing, that would be 6 intervals of probably one minute each, since it's bigger than single network but smaller than the whole matrix, and the hits per interval are as follows: 2, 1 (with a normal glitch), 3, 3, 2, 4 = total 14, -1 for the glitch iirc is 13, which should get anything except the highest difficulty rating. as i said, i don't anticipate it being much higher than average, other than picking up the shadow board information. the second set of rolls is for finding street maps. the hits are as follows: 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3 = 15 hits.
Jaid
where'd everyone go?

anyways, i didn't add it in earlier, 'cause i didn't know, and for that matter still don't know what region the place is in within seattle, but i now know it's in an A zone. which complicates things a little, i guess. (actually, i'm surprised an A zone would stand for that kind of thing happening)

now then is there any reason i shouldn't just post my character trying to find out more on this place? is it possible to even get an agreement of any sort? an acknowledgement? anything whatsoever?
Jaid
K, here's my rolls...

compiling

sprite resistance

Fading resist

(actually, i think i rolled too many dice on the sprite resist test now i think of it... ah well... anyways, more on this later... i'm in a hurry nyahnyah.gif )

[edit] ok, i promised more... basically, my intention was to feed the sprite (oh, data sprite again, btw) a few basic qualifiers for people we might want to target, and have him keep an eye out for those specific qualifiers. for example, someone who is basically a loner would be one qualifier (doesn't spend a lot of time with a given group of people). someone who does not look heavily armed. someone who lives in a low security area. lives close to the barrens, but not in the barrens. someone who does not appear to have a commlink.

blech, i think i had other qualifiers i wanted too, but i was in a hurry to get out the door and go to work, and i've since forgotten nyahnyah.gif [/edit]
Digital Heroin
Defaulting: Perception - 1 Success
bishop186
So, it's been 5 days. What's up with the game? Heh.

In other news, I'll be out Monday and possibly Tuesday. Driving to California for holiday -- I'll still get on during the holiday, just possibly not these days since I'll be driving through.

It's a long drive, from the midwest to California.
emo samurai
Sorry for the delay between games. Major funk that I've since gotten myself out of.
bishop186
Well hot damn, I thought this game was dead for sure!
emo samurai
Nope; so long as Dream is in his castle, the Dreaming will never fall. He just retreats to his bedroom every so often.
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