Full Version: Recruting: Rising Young Gangsters.
well, Mr. GM was dropping rather large hints about him not being something for us to deal with tonight, so we've moved on to the party.
Indeed, you where highly successful in KOing him, wasn't going to wake up for quite some time.
hey I am new here looking to get in a game if you are looking/need/can use another player let me know
Hey hardblade.
There are two people waiting already, but I can put you on the list if you like. I'll shoot you a PM if someone drops and the other two decline or don't respond.
There are two people waiting already, but I can put you on the list if you like. I'll shoot you a PM if someone drops and the other two decline or don't respond.
Yeah thats cool. probably a long shot but hey looks like a cool game.
OK, kind of waiting on more imput from you guys. The stealth team needs instructions, and everyone has an hour to work with before that message comes in from Dryden (Meaning most jobs should be in process/done by the time).
So, need where people are going and what they're doing -before- the message comes in (Should have had him wait to post it, my bad).
So Alexie, you'll have broken up the groups and gone somewhere else before even getting the message about the spot.
Milafin, you'll likewise get to do other stuff before the message comes in.
And everyone else hasn't done much of anything yet, but they have an hour of time to work on objectives before even being able to head towards the meeting spot.
So, need where people are going and what they're doing -before- the message comes in (Should have had him wait to post it, my bad).
So Alexie, you'll have broken up the groups and gone somewhere else before even getting the message about the spot.
Milafin, you'll likewise get to do other stuff before the message comes in.
And everyone else hasn't done much of anything yet, but they have an hour of time to work on objectives before even being able to head towards the meeting spot.
I'll send you a forum message thingy about what Alexei is upto. Although honestly he doesn't have all that much he needs to do with the hour.
Does anyone have any objections to Alexei asking his group if they know any girls who they want to invite? How secretive are we keeping this party? (I assume this will have come up during the IC chat where someone came up with the 'lets throw a party' plan)
Does anyone have any objections to Alexei asking his group if they know any girls who they want to invite? How secretive are we keeping this party? (I assume this will have come up during the IC chat where someone came up with the 'lets throw a party' plan)
Hey guys sorry for not being here. My PC died compleatly a week ago and ive been pretty much PCless.
I have access to one now i can check a cpl times a day. Ill try to get cought up tonight and post.
Again sorry for the trouble
I have access to one now i can check a cpl times a day. Ill try to get cought up tonight and post.
Again sorry for the trouble
As they say, life happens. Was just thinking of putting up a chime in to make sure everyone was still alive and whatnot.
QUOTE (Oenone @ Nov 11 2008, 12:22 PM) 
Does anyone have any objections to Alexei asking his group if they know any girls who they want to invite? How secretive are we keeping this party? (I assume this will have come up during the IC chat where someone came up with the 'lets throw a party' plan)
Do it.
I was hoping some people who haven't posted IC in a while would over the weekend, but perhaps I wasn't clear on what I'm still waiting on. By far the biggest thing I'm waiting on is what the group that plans to steal some stuff from the electronics shop is doing. Is anyone going to lead them or are you planning on simply letting them lose on the shop and hope they don't bring LS down on their heads.
I'm also looking for what Tink and Gres are doing, because at the moment I have them both down for nothing.
Just to be sure that everyone is still here, I'd like a roll call. A simple 'here' is fine.
I'm also looking for what Tink and Gres are doing, because at the moment I have them both down for nothing.
Just to be sure that everyone is still here, I'd like a roll call. A simple 'here' is fine.
*insane cackling*
Tink will take the BnE group ill post IC
If no one has a truck or van ill see if my minion can locate something that wont be missed for a night.
If no one has a truck or van ill see if my minion can locate something that wont be missed for a night.
Given that he wasn't really 'ordered' with any group I'll have Gres work his contact instead. Basicly he will go talk to his uncle and see if there is any magical security work to be had... ie creating wards or summoning spirits/watchers. A mostly legal operation that might get the gang some more funds to work with
I'm still around, you have everything Alexei is upto via forum message I think?
Edit.
Specifics I shall throw in here because they just occured to me.
He'll mostly be picking up beer variants, with a few bottles of spirits. However he's not getting any vodka as he doubts you can get anything worthy of the name.
The potential traitor is being sent off with as many people Alexei can find who he knows have a strong dislike for the other gang in school. Anyone who got beaten up by them a lot etc.
Oh and he's most definately getting his group to call up all the girls they can.
Edit 2.
As the magic user group doesn't have anything better to do they could always try the following. All of which are fairly quick.
A. Check the party venue out for magical suitability. (Make sure it's not warded or has any tained astral stuff going on which could ruin it for future usage.)
B. Astral recon on the shop we're robbing. Again to check for warding or unexpected security measures.
C. Obtain a ritual sample of the traitor.... I'll leave it up to your imagination what potential uses we can put that to.
D. Spy on the other gang via the astral. Nothing like getting some intel in advance of when we'll need it. (Okay so that might take longer than a day... But it's still a smart thing to do at some point soon.)
Edit.
Specifics I shall throw in here because they just occured to me.
He'll mostly be picking up beer variants, with a few bottles of spirits. However he's not getting any vodka as he doubts you can get anything worthy of the name.
The potential traitor is being sent off with as many people Alexei can find who he knows have a strong dislike for the other gang in school. Anyone who got beaten up by them a lot etc.
Oh and he's most definately getting his group to call up all the girls they can.
Edit 2.
As the magic user group doesn't have anything better to do they could always try the following. All of which are fairly quick.
A. Check the party venue out for magical suitability. (Make sure it's not warded or has any tained astral stuff going on which could ruin it for future usage.)
B. Astral recon on the shop we're robbing. Again to check for warding or unexpected security measures.
C. Obtain a ritual sample of the traitor.... I'll leave it up to your imagination what potential uses we can put that to.
D. Spy on the other gang via the astral. Nothing like getting some intel in advance of when we'll need it. (Okay so that might take longer than a day... But it's still a smart thing to do at some point soon.)
QUOTE (Oenone @ Nov 18 2008, 05:25 PM)
As the magic user group doesn't have anything better to do they could always try the following. All of which are fairly quick.
A. Check the party venue out for magical suitability. (Make sure it's not warded or has any tained astral stuff going on which could ruin it for future usage.)
A. Check the party venue out for magical suitability. (Make sure it's not warded or has any tained astral stuff going on which could ruin it for future usage.)
My understanding is that he doesn't know where this place is yet... Otherwise that is what I would have him do... Got to get that message first
QUOTE (Oenone @ Nov 18 2008, 05:25 PM)
B. Astral recon on the shop we're robbing. Again to check for warding or unexpected security measures.
That is doable. However the only place he would leave his body would be in his room which is in the basement of his uncle's shop. Which means he can follow up on his contact anyways
QUOTE (Oenone @ Nov 18 2008, 05:25 PM)
C. Obtain a ritual sample of the traitor.... I'll leave it up to your imagination what potential uses we can put that to.
My imagination is limited by the fact that he doesn't have the ritual sorcery skill... So only thing left would be for intimidation... And if we are going to intimidate him it kind blows the idea letting him hang around anyway.
QUOTE (Oenone @ Nov 18 2008, 05:25 PM)
D. Spy on the other gang via the astral. Nothing like getting some intel in advance of when we'll need it. (Okay so that might take longer than a day... But it's still a smart thing to do at some point soon.)
Agreed... at some point... However I'd prefer to have our gang be closer to being ready for a show down then we are now. After all if he gets caught nosing around the other gang might decide to hit first and hit hard.
QUOTE (estradling @ Nov 19 2008, 04:28 PM)
My understanding is that he doesn't know where this place is yet... Otherwise that is what I would have him do... Got to get that message first
My imagination is limited by the fact that he doesn't have the ritual sorcery skill... So only thing left would be for intimidation... And if we are going to intimidate him it kind blows the idea letting him hang around anyway.
My imagination is limited by the fact that he doesn't have the ritual sorcery skill... So only thing left would be for intimidation... And if we are going to intimidate him it kind blows the idea letting him hang around anyway.
QUOTE (Mickle5125 @ Nov 8 2008, 04:46 AM)
About an hour after Dryden set the orders and led Tristen and their silent friend away, All of the named characters receive messages.
<<To: Core Gang>>
<<From: Supreme Leader>>
<<We've found a lot that's almost perfect. It's located at [insert address here]. Only problem is, we have a distinct lack of power here. Milafin, if you can, you might want to see if you can arrange for the power grid to provide a night worth of power for us. Alexie, in case that proves beyond our abilities for now, See if your crew can scrounge up a generator or two. And do any of your underlings have lock-picking skills? I'd like to avoid having to smash these windows if I can avoid it.>>
<<To: Core Gang>>
<<From: Supreme Leader>>
<<We've found a lot that's almost perfect. It's located at [insert address here]. Only problem is, we have a distinct lack of power here. Milafin, if you can, you might want to see if you can arrange for the power grid to provide a night worth of power for us. Alexie, in case that proves beyond our abilities for now, See if your crew can scrounge up a generator or two. And do any of your underlings have lock-picking skills? I'd like to avoid having to smash these windows if I can avoid it.>>
There's the post in which everyone was told the location we're holding the party at. The location isn't strictly written down in OOC terms, but it's implied ICly there is a real address listed.
As for the lack of Ritual Sorcery skill.... Well I was hoping one of the other magic users might have it at the least? Maybe you could order a few members to provide ritual samples for training and accidentally on purpose pick him?
Edit - As for the other gang hitting us.... I actually think /now/ is the most likely time they'll attack. We have a bunch of untested and unreliable members who are going to be majorly drunk. We're in a location we're unfamiliar with and not everyone is even going to be armed. The longer they leave it the more loyal our members will be and the better trained and equipped.
QUOTE (Oenone @ Nov 19 2008, 02:12 PM)
There's the post in which everyone was told the location we're holding the party at. The location isn't strictly written down in OOC terms, but it's implied ICly there is a real address listed.
That is true... when we receive it an hour later... But I was answering the question of what he be doing before that.
QUOTE (Oenone @ Nov 19 2008, 02:12 PM)
As for the lack of Ritual Sorcery skill.... Well I was hoping one of the other magic users might have it at the least? Maybe you could order a few members to provide ritual samples for training and accidentally on purpose pick him?
We have Gres and Lou and one unnamed awakened new recruit so far. Not many options there
QUOTE (Oenone @ Nov 19 2008, 02:12 PM)
Edit - As for the other gang hitting us.... I actually think /now/ is the most likely time they'll attack. We have a bunch of untested and unreliable members who are going to be majorly drunk. We're in a location we're unfamiliar with and not everyone is even going to be armed. The longer they leave it the more loyal our members will be and the better trained and equipped.
Always a possibility... However if they attack knowing what defenses they have at their base means nothing. Other info on numbers, magic/cyber users is always good, but how useful is it really without much time to prepare? Unless we stop the party (and take that PR hit) we are pretty much locked into winging any fights tonight
what would the roll be to act sufficiently drunk to keep the recruits at ease?
QUOTE (Mickle5125 @ Nov 19 2008, 05:23 PM)
what would the roll be to act sufficiently drunk to keep the recruits at ease?
Con.
So Dryden's staying sober... just in case. and he has knives and likely a large pile of cans and/or bottles to throw. For serious pain aimed at those who want to crash the party with intent to harm.
Not going to be an issue.
Alexei is planning on packing his AK and pulling door duty. Anyone turns up without an invite and they're going to regret it.
Edit - And for the record spying on the other gang was never about learning what defences they have. It was simply to find out if they're gathering and heading our way. At which point it /does/ give us advance warning in which we can get our drunken mob ready for a brawl.
Alexei is planning on packing his AK and pulling door duty. Anyone turns up without an invite and they're going to regret it.
Edit - And for the record spying on the other gang was never about learning what defences they have. It was simply to find out if they're gathering and heading our way. At which point it /does/ give us advance warning in which we can get our drunken mob ready for a brawl.
hmm... what're we waiting for?
QUOTE (Mickle5125 @ Nov 29 2008, 11:07 PM)
hmm... what're we waiting for?
Appologies, I was busier then I expected over Thanksgiving break. Also Anders seems to be MIA at the moment. Monday afternoon will see a post to update everyone's current actions, but we need to figure out what to do about our missing person. I know there are at least two or three people who had wanted to join but we were full.
If we don't hear from Anders before I post tomorrow I'll send out PMs to get our replacement, just have to figure out a good way to work them in. I'm thinking most likely is another friend that was out of school for the day, or perhaps the experienced recruit. Other possibilty includes taking over one of the five henchmen with a few more BP and such.
DId you PM Anders to warn them?
Tazer guy would probably work better (read be easier for the GM) than upgrading a henchman. Because then you're only vetting one character and not having to make a whole new NPC up. Plus it would only impose two things on the replacement, IE they're male (or maybe a very masculine guy I suppose...) and own some kind of tazer.
Alright, post is finally up, sorry for all the delay, but look, a moving ball!
Oenone, you managed to pick up your equipment from home discreetly enough. The place looks like a decent enough spot, but defending it if your attacked is going to be hard because looking over the fence is just as difficult from inside as out.
Estralding, there is no background count or other obvious magical threat, or indeed any threat you can pick up from the astral at all in the immediate area.
It looks like the final count for the part is almost double the numbers from earlier, but thankfully there is plenty of drink to go around, as most who showed up brought at least enough for themselves.
Oenone, you managed to pick up your equipment from home discreetly enough. The place looks like a decent enough spot, but defending it if your attacked is going to be hard because looking over the fence is just as difficult from inside as out.
Estralding, there is no background count or other obvious magical threat, or indeed any threat you can pick up from the astral at all in the immediate area.
It looks like the final count for the part is almost double the numbers from earlier, but thankfully there is plenty of drink to go around, as most who showed up brought at least enough for themselves.
I am a bit puzzled by one thing (and I do apologize if this is nitpicking) but how can a chain-link fence be providing complete cover? You can see right through one after all.... Is it overgrown with plants maybe?
reinforced. strips of a GM selected material are threaded through the links, turning a chainlink fence into a solid wall.
QUOTE (Mickle5125 @ Dec 3 2008, 05:31 PM)
reinforced. strips of a GM selected material are threaded through the links, turning a chainlink fence into a solid wall.
Exactly. I do believe that aluminum is the most common material for this in real life, and so would be used in this case too. It isn't bullet proof or anything, but no one will be able to see whats on the other side.
Ah. I always assumed a re-inforced chain link fence was just one with a heavy concrete base.
Mostly as in my head the point at which the links are all filled in with metal strips it ceases to be a chain link fence? I mean wall does seem to fit the description a whole lot better.
Mostly as in my head the point at which the links are all filled in with metal strips it ceases to be a chain link fence? I mean wall does seem to fit the description a whole lot better.
QUOTE (Oenone @ Dec 4 2008, 01:32 PM)
Ah. I always assumed a re-inforced chain link fence was just one with a heavy concrete base.
Mostly as in my head the point at which the links are all filled in with metal strips it ceases to be a chain link fence? I mean wall does seem to fit the description a whole lot better.
Mostly as in my head the point at which the links are all filled in with metal strips it ceases to be a chain link fence? I mean wall does seem to fit the description a whole lot better.
Maybe you've never seen what this is like. It is chain links, but then other metal is added. Usually it is a finer mesh thing of some kind to improve privacy and make the fence both stronger and harder to climb. It is still far from a wall, just as a wooden fence is far from a wall. I'll see if I can't find an image of some kind to show you what I'm thinking.
Edit:
Some examples
http://www.ctvalleyfence.com/images/chainlink/D3.jpg
http://alpinefencing.net/yahoo_site_admin/...9171753_std.JPG
http://www.alpinefenceco.com/images/chain_privacyslats.jpg
A google image search of privacy chain link fence will show other examples as well, but this should give the basic idea.
Ah. Yeah they're so uncommon in England I've never seen one. Still, calling them chain link fences still doesn't really make sense, because the links are all filled in. But anyway, enough about fences (and I do apologize for needing such vast discussion of the topic). I know what you mean now and it makes a whole lot more sense. 
Quick question: Is this the OOC thread for this game? I can't find another one.
There is one for OOC too. Mostly direct rules stuff, could be quite a way back though.
Edit - Okay I was sure there used to be one. I think maybe it dropped off the idle threads list or something.
Edit - Okay I was sure there used to be one. I think maybe it dropped off the idle threads list or something.
How embarrassing! I haven't read this thread in months. Today I received a PM from Karaden about an opening in this game, so I decided a quick scan of the thread was in order.
Turns out that the character I created is eerily similar to another character already in the game (Hint: Adept). I've never played an Adept before, so I really want to try this one. It occurred to me that, by modifying the background and other fluff, I could make a copy-cat character fit it. If the other adept, or anyone else, objects, then I will create something else.
Karaden requested that I submit a male human (or human-looking something else). I decided that making my character human would just make him even more like Dryden; instead, I gave my Ork the human-looking quality.
I promised Karaden that I would submit a character today, so here it is. I haven't quite finished making the mods, so I may edit this post a few times. I am copying the format of post #2.
Turns out that the character I created is eerily similar to another character already in the game (Hint: Adept). I've never played an Adept before, so I really want to try this one. It occurred to me that, by modifying the background and other fluff, I could make a copy-cat character fit it. If the other adept, or anyone else, objects, then I will create something else.
Karaden requested that I submit a male human (or human-looking something else). I decided that making my character human would just make him even more like Dryden; instead, I gave my Ork the human-looking quality.
I promised Karaden that I would submit a character today, so here it is. I haven't quite finished making the mods, so I may edit this post a few times. I am copying the format of post #2.
[ Spoiler ]
erm... I'm a little leery of having two adepts with such similar power layouts. I'll be ok with it if the GM says ok, though.
QUOTE (Mickle5125 @ Dec 13 2008, 05:23 PM)
erm... I'm a little leery of having two adepts with such similar power layouts. I'll be ok with it if the GM says ok, though.
That's okay.
I've been re-thinking high school gansters, and what they might be into. Since Karaden isn't chomping at the bit, I'll probably re-do my character.
Gotta run now, post more later.
Yes, very little chomping, very much preparing for my physics 2 final on monday.
I hope to get the ball truly rolling again by Wednesday, so feel free to revamp your character up till then. And as I said, I have several ways to work in a different character if you'd prefer a female or some obviously non-human. I will however make a specific request on no trolls, seeing as Carson has been singled out as the only troll at the school.
I would also prefer we not have two people with near identical skill and ability sets, so feel free to use the next few days to come up with something a bit different.
Oh, and I'd prefer not an adept as well, as I don't like a group being over half magic. Always bugged me when fluff says less then 1% are magic, but SR groups tend to be closer to 60% magic.
I hope to get the ball truly rolling again by Wednesday, so feel free to revamp your character up till then. And as I said, I have several ways to work in a different character if you'd prefer a female or some obviously non-human. I will however make a specific request on no trolls, seeing as Carson has been singled out as the only troll at the school.
I would also prefer we not have two people with near identical skill and ability sets, so feel free to use the next few days to come up with something a bit different.
Oh, and I'd prefer not an adept as well, as I don't like a group being over half magic. Always bugged me when fluff says less then 1% are magic, but SR groups tend to be closer to 60% magic.
Hmm... no magic; probably no resonance; also no cyber; no money; 300 BP; male human preferred. That leaves it wide open!
Cyber's possible. In Debt costs you in game, but it pays out buildpoints and "free" money.
Resonance-wise, it appears our TM has disappeared, so that's a possibility, pending GM approval.
Additionally, with the disappearance of our TM, our hacking pool is severely lacking.
On another note, I'm not certain on this, but our infiltration division is entirely NPCs, isn't it?
Resonance-wise, it appears our TM has disappeared, so that's a possibility, pending GM approval.
Additionally, with the disappearance of our TM, our hacking pool is severely lacking.
On another note, I'm not certain on this, but our infiltration division is entirely NPCs, isn't it?
I'm fine with TM is DBA would like, though regular hacker works just as well in the hacking field. Yes cyber is totally possible, as is Debt.
Keep in mind though that in this game in particular, debt is both a double blessing and double curse. It is a double curse because it is likely to get big name gangs interested in your little startup gang much sooner then you might otherwise like. It is a double blessing for two reasons though. First, you can attempt to borrow from the gang for a better rate then otherwise. Second, it will be much more possible to renege on a loan when you have the backing of a full gang behind you. Still gonna be hell to pay, but it is an idea.
Keep in mind though that in this game in particular, debt is both a double blessing and double curse. It is a double curse because it is likely to get big name gangs interested in your little startup gang much sooner then you might otherwise like. It is a double blessing for two reasons though. First, you can attempt to borrow from the gang for a better rate then otherwise. Second, it will be much more possible to renege on a loan when you have the backing of a full gang behind you. Still gonna be hell to pay, but it is an idea.
QUOTE (Karaden @ Dec 14 2008, 06:22 PM)
I'm fine with TM is DBA would like, though regular hacker works just as well in the hacking field. Yes cyber is totally possible, as is Debt.
In that case, I will either be a hacker or a TM. I like TMs. Don't know about a 300 BP TM!
Regular hackers are far better in almost every way to a TM. Especially when you're building on a budget. A TM struggles to be anything but an average matrix bunny even at 400BP.
The trouble with In Debt in this sort of game, is that personal profits aren't going to be much past living expenses for a while.
So you're basically stuck with two choices, try work your debt off with whoever you owe the nuyen too (which depends largely on if Karaden lets you decide who ultimately owns the debt) or you'll drag the whole gang into the problem.
Which probably doesn't make you very popular with everyone. (So some kind of people skills might be a sensible investment just on the off chance you need to sweet talk people)
The trouble with In Debt in this sort of game, is that personal profits aren't going to be much past living expenses for a while.
So you're basically stuck with two choices, try work your debt off with whoever you owe the nuyen too (which depends largely on if Karaden lets you decide who ultimately owns the debt) or you'll drag the whole gang into the problem.
Which probably doesn't make you very popular with everyone. (So some kind of people skills might be a sensible investment just on the off chance you need to sweet talk people)
QUOTE (Oenone @ Dec 15 2008, 01:46 PM)
Regular hackers are far better in almost every way to a TM. Especially when you're building on a budget. A TM struggles to be anything but an average matrix bunny even at 400BP.
A hacker may be better; TMs are cooler. Anyone with a commlink can hack.
for this game, I think flavor's a bigger factor than power. TM away, comrade. Just be sure that you can handle some important factors... like spoofing lifestyles. We sorta need access to illegitimately gained electricity... ^_^
Do we need to continue with events at the party?
As in will anything happen or are we largely just RP'ing it for the sake of it?
Flavour is important, but there's nothing worse than having a cool concept character who is no fun to play because they can't really do much.
For a cheap TM build I recommend trying the Sprite approach. You can squeeze a lot of extra power by having a fairly high tempory sprite creation skill and just spending the CF BP's on essentials you'll always be running.
Lets you use a lot of the more interesting sprite abilities too. Especially if you have some of the ones in Unwired like the Sleuth sprite.
As in will anything happen or are we largely just RP'ing it for the sake of it?
Flavour is important, but there's nothing worse than having a cool concept character who is no fun to play because they can't really do much.
For a cheap TM build I recommend trying the Sprite approach. You can squeeze a lot of extra power by having a fairly high tempory sprite creation skill and just spending the CF BP's on essentials you'll always be running.
Lets you use a lot of the more interesting sprite abilities too. Especially if you have some of the ones in Unwired like the Sleuth sprite.
I can't think of much. Dryden's going to spend the evening making the recruits have fun and stay loyal. He's also going to be playing match maker some, making sure that the single gals meet up with the single guys... maybe even keep a gal or two for himself. ^_~
All hail the end of finals. Ok, IC post on its way up. Main reason nothing has happened in the party is we haven't heard from our rigger in a while, and I'm starting to think I'll need to send a PM out to the next in line of the waiting list. I'll move things along somewhat, but those who haven't posted recently (Including DBA) have till Saturday before I send PMs to those who are on the waiting list.
I thought we were inside the building for the party? At least that's what was implied from the talk about having found a suitable site to use. After all if we're partying outside we may as well have picked anywhere out of the way, because it doesn't matter if no-one can see us they're going to hear an open air party from a long way off.
As for the door being locked, Alexei does actually have an autopicker. So if it's just a mechanical lock stopping him then he can literally just take some time and it'll open eventually.
As for the door being locked, Alexei does actually have an autopicker. So if it's just a mechanical lock stopping him then he can literally just take some time and it'll open eventually.
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