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Mister Juan
QUOTE (Bastard @ Jan 27 2013, 06:19 PM) *
If you want to include it, I am sure we will find it entertaining, as always.


You seem to rate my writing skills way too high wink.gif I don't think I have the writing chops to make a post about "googling and downloading" interesting to read wink.gif

Do we need to write up how much food/water we're taking?
Jaruen
I put my loadout, post 3339. Well, all that and my two weapons.
ntwi
Here is the loadout for Felix
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Mister Juan
We are seriously packing enough firepower to invade a small country.
All we're missing is anti-tank weaponry....
Kliko
QUOTE (Mister Juan @ Jan 28 2013, 12:41 PM) *
We are seriously packing enough firepower to invade a small country.
All we're missing is anti-tank weaponry....
That's just because LAW's aren't anti-vehicular in sr3...
Mister Juan
So I guess we really lost our new player. Damn.
Kliko
QUOTE (Mister Juan @ Jan 28 2013, 04:17 PM) *
So I guess we really lost our new player. Damn.
Last logged December 13...
SneakyJoeKDB
QUOTE (ntwi @ Jan 26 2013, 04:22 PM) *
Bubba, you're actually at (5 + 5/2 + 2 + 2) = 11 Ballistic and 6 Impact due to the way layering works. You will need a Quickness or 7 or 12 to avoid taking penalties to Quickness depending on how Bastard views my question at the bottom.



Ah, wasn't aware of the layering rules or quickness penalty. Now to determine the quickness penalty why would I add natural armor edge? Seems kind of silly. Assuming Natural armor edge stacks and is not layered and does not effect quickness... Bubba would role with the following:

Camo Jacket 5/3
Camo Hemet 1/2

6/5 total with worn armor (No Penalty).

1/2 Natural Armor Edge

7/7 with no penalty

Load Out

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Mister Juan
I updated my loadout to include food and water.
ntwi
QUOTE (SneakyJoeKDB @ Jan 28 2013, 04:18 PM) *
Ah, wasn't aware of the layering rules or quickness penalty. Now to determine the quickness penalty why would I add natural armor edge? Seems kind of silly. Assuming Natural armor edge stacks and is not layered and does not effect quickness...

Your natural armor stacks with everything getting its full bonus, and does not create a quickness penalty. I had the helmet as 2/1 in my head rather than 1/2 which led to needing a 7 rather than 6.

The nice thing about FFBA, or the advanced version Bastard gave us is that is doesn't count towards the penalties (or rather it counts as a 1 for the advanced version). It still only gives the 1/2 benefit because it's being layered over other normal armor though.

CODE
            Ballistic     Impact             Counts towards Penalties
Camo Jacket      5    /     3                         5
Adv FFBA        5/2   /    2/2                        1
Camo Helmet      1    /     2                         1

Natural Armor    1    /     2                         0
Total Armor      9    /     8


Total of 9/8 with no penalties if you have a 7 Quickness
8/6 if you take off the Helmet to avoid penalties with a 6 Quickness
SneakyJoeKDB
Bubba has a modifed 6 quickness. Looks like I will want to raise it one when he gets the Karma. He can always head down with the helmet and remove it later throwing it in his pack. I will modify my load out. Thanks for the help.
Bastard
Okay, I have a hard copy now of everyone's loadout, and I just got to compare it to your original loadouts, which I also have a hard copy. Make sure someone isnt trying to add in some goodies.

Kliko, were you going to post the next IC, an hour out, or do you want me to move you guys past that?
Kliko
Feel free to move us past that.

Can I sneak a WWI type trench knife in my load out? (Because of the rule of cool?)
Bastard
The only thing you are sneaking into your loadout is herpes.
Kliko
QUOTE (Bastard @ Jan 30 2013, 06:34 AM) *
The only thing you are sneaking into your loadout is herpes.
Bugger, forgot to include condoms...
Mister Juan
QUOTE (Bastard @ Jan 30 2013, 06:34 AM) *
The only thing you are sneaking into your loadout is herpes.


HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
That just made my whole entire day smile.gif
Mister Juan
Now that I think of it, I've got 4 things on my list that weren't explicitly stated in the original loadout:
-Sound suppressor for the AKS
-Silencer for the Savalette
-Holster for the Savalette
-Sling for the AKS

Worst comes to worst, Ludi can probably cannibalize a sling and sound suppressor from one of the guns Ms J brought, and holster her sidearm in her vest.
Kliko
QUOTE (Mister Juan @ Jan 30 2013, 01:04 PM) *
Now that I think of it, I've got 4 things on my list that weren't explicitly stated in the original loadout:
-Sound suppressor for the AKS
-Silencer for the Savalette
-Holster for the Savalette
-Sling for the AKS
Care to share some of that herpes?
Mister Juan
You think it's transferable from one metatype to the other?
Bastard
Sorry, can't bring things you didn't state before. However, Miss Johnson does have sound suppressors and slings you can take from the armory.

QUOTE (Mister Juan @ Jan 30 2013, 10:27 AM) *
You think it's transferable from one metatype to the other?

rotfl.gif
SneakyJoeKDB
Does she have cyber shotgun supressors or an HMG sound supressor? Now that would be something!

If she cant supply that then Bubba is breaking up with her!
Kliko
QUOTE (Mister Juan @ Jan 30 2013, 01:27 PM) *
You think it's transferable from one metatype to the other?
I believe they're all pink on the inside...
Bastard
QUOTE (SneakyJoeKDB @ Jan 30 2013, 08:52 PM) *
Does she have cyber shotgun supressors or an HMG sound supressor? Now that would be something!

If she cant supply that then Bubba is breaking up with her!


Looks like you are breaking up. frown.gif


QUOTE (Kliko @ Jan 30 2013, 10:59 PM) *
I believe they're all pink on the inside...


... and red and bumpy on the outside.
Bastard
I just finished cross referencing all your gear with your original packing lists, and here are the issues:

Field Rations... not everyone brought them, but everyone seems to be carrying them -
>>>When you go to load, there are 2 MREs each provided by Miss Johnson, plus what ever Kliko is willing to share...
>>>Felix also has extra MREs
>>>Thanks Sneak for finding it... It is 2 MREs everyone... I did not specify before... Miss Johnson will provide a meal before mission, then 2 MREs each, one for "lunch" and one for "dinner" waiting on pick up.
[ Spoiler ]


Energy Bars...
>>>Kliko seems to be very giving, or I posted that Miss J is providing it, but didnt keep it in my notes!
>>>Thanks Sneaks for correcting me... I actually had a printed copy sitting right in front of me and missed it!!!

Water... not everyone brought camel backs or canteens, but it seems a lot of people are taking two days worth of water
>>>Miss Johnson has provided one 2 qt canteen for each runner. Felix would also mention that he has a water purification kit, if we IC'ed this all out. It looks like Ludi and Bubba are going to be packing their bags with water bottles from the mini bar smile.gif
>>>The amount was not specified before... my bad, yo.

Towel... Kliko is the only one to know where his towel is!?
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Sound Suppressors and Silencers... Ludi didnt mention on original packing list
>>>Miss Johnson does have various sound suppressors - Roll - Success Ludi finds one that fits her 74
>>>I will allow the silencer for the SavGuard based on your character always having it mounted in all other runs

Other Weapon Attachments... Based on Ludi's SavGuard silencer, I am allowing all attachment that are always attached by players. Removable attachments that are not always used and were not mentioned are not
>>>Ludi's low-light flashlight mounted on the 74 is out

Survival, Med and First Aid Kits... If not specified what was in them before, no adding things now
>>>Knuckle Duster did not include Survival Kit on original list, his kit is out

Carrying the Load... Is that a Laser Cresent Axe in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
>>>Duster's load - how are you carrying it? No backpack in original load, though someone may have an extra one, or you can use a sling off of one of Miss Johnson's rifles to fashion a sling for your duffel.
>>>Bubba is carrying a shitload of stuff on his belt... 10 knives, 6 grenades, 60 shotgun rounds, an extendable baton ... and a LC Axe too? Some of that ammo can be stored in the ammo vest, along with the grenades. How big is that axe compared to Bubba?
>>>Kliko - one shotgun ammo pouch holds 20 mini-grenades? Aren't they 40mm like 203 rounds? Or are they 20mm... You may want to put the shotgun clips in the actual ammo pouches on the vest, then spread your grenades around... at 40 mm, I would think only 4 would fit in a shotgun pouch. You may need to store some ammo in your backpack for now... and all that ammo is going to weigh down.

Linguisofts... there may only be one!
>>>There is only one Persian and one Turkish Linguisoft each, yet both Felix and Kliko took both of them. Who has which?

Other Gear
>>>Ludi's lighter is in... since she is a smoker, and it is always included in the IC, it is allowed

Cell phones
>>>Ludi's bringing hers. Anyone else?


Please correct me where I am wrong.
Mister Juan
Seems all good to me! Ludi will just take the Food/Water handed by Miss J. That'll teach me to not make a packing list nyahnyah.gif
I actually like the fact of being somewhat short on essentials smile.gif

Plus, I now REALLY hope the entire run comes down to Ludi's lighter.
SneakyJoeKDB
QUOTE (Bastard @ Jan 24 2013, 11:13 AM) *
Miss Johnson's Armory


Sound Suppressors

Field Rations/MREs
Energy Bars
Water



In Ms. J's load-out you list Water, Field Rations/MREs, and Energy Bars. Bubba actually brought his own rations and his own canteen from his original load-out, but with the vague listing of water from Ms. J's Armory I was assuming Bubba could take as much water as preferred. Bubba will stuff bottles of water in his backpack if they are available at the bar. I did intend for Bubba to carry the shotgun rounds and grenades in the vest so I will update that. The Laser Axe cant be that big because it is concealable at a 2. If Bubba cant fit the axe on his belt then he will strap it to the back of his pack. Remember Bubba is a big boy and has a very wide waist, is it too much of a stretch to carry all those items on there?

I didnt bother figuring all the weight of Bubba's load because his strength is so high, Bubba wont have any issues hauling his load-out. 13 x 5 = 65 KG!
Mister Juan
QUOTE (SneakyJoeKDB @ Jan 31 2013, 06:31 PM) *
The Laser Axe cant be that big because it is concealable at a 2.


I feel like an asshole saying this : that's the same conceal rating as a full fixed stock shotgun.

EDIT: I will add that SR3 conceal rating make very little sense, most of the time, since a handheld cellphone as a conceal rating of 3. I guess we're still packing cellphones from the 1980s.
SneakyJoeKDB
It's all good. Quite honestly, I am not sure how big it is... it has the same conceal rating as a pole arm, bo staff, and spear; however, it has 1 less reach. So it's wider but shorter and can still be potentially concealed. I picture it dangling at the side of his leg without herpes. eek.gif


Humor aside something like this:
Axe Holster
Bastard
QUOTE (SneakyJoeKDB @ Jan 31 2013, 03:31 PM) *
In Ms. J's load-out you list Water, Field Rations/MREs, and Energy Bars. Bubba actually brought his own rations and his own canteen from his original load-out, But with the vague listing of water from Ms. J's Armory I was assuming Bubba could take as much water as preferred. Bubba would stuff bottles of water in his backpack if they are available at the bar. I did intend for Bubba to carry the shotgun rounds and grenades in the vest so I will update that. The Laser Axe cant be that big because it is concealable at a 2. If Bubba cant fit the axe on his belt then he will strap it to the back of his pack. Remember Bubba is a big boy and has a very wide waist, is it too much of a stretch to carry all those items on there?

I didnt bother figuring all the weight of Bubba's load because his strength is so high, Bubba wont have any issues hauling his load-out. 13 x 5 = 65 KG!


Yup... I couldnt find it in my notes, though. It is a 2qt water, field rations are MREs... 2 each. I will edit my Energy Bars... enough for 5 each.


QUOTE (SneakyJoeKDB @ Jan 31 2013, 03:48 PM) *
It's all good. Quite honestly, I am not sure how big it is... it has the same conceal rating as a pole arm, bo staff, and spear; however, it has 1 less reach. So its wider but shorter and can still be potentially concealed. I picture it dangling at the side of his leg without herpes. eek.gif


Humor aside something like this:
Axe Holster

I think its a full size axe, not a small hatchet.


QUOTE (Mister Juan @ Jan 31 2013, 03:39 PM) *
I feel like an asshole saying this : that's the same conceal rating as a full fixed stock shotgun.

EDIT: I will add that SR3 conceal rating make very little sense, most of the time, since a handheld cellphone as a conceal rating of 3. I guess we're still packing cellphones from the 1980s.


Haha... no. That reminds me... I will edit my previous post to include cellphones... Should be conceal 10... unless youre a teen or douche... then its conceal -4.
SneakyJoeKDB
It is a full size axe but the idea is to carry it at the hip the same way as the picture. Here is a full axe carry picture courtesy of the fire department:

Fireman Axe Carry
ntwi
QUOTE (Bastard @ Jan 31 2013, 02:30 PM) *
Linguisofts... there may only be one!
>>>There is only one Persian and one Turkish Linguisoft each, yet both Felix and Kliko took both of them. Who has which?

Cell phones
>>>Ludi's bringing hers. Anyone else?


Regarding Linguasofts: I though Kliko had loaded the chip into his headware memory and then passed the chip along. If that doesn't work it's not a problem, he can have those two linguasofts.

Cellphones: I know my pocketsecretary is on the list, and I think Kliko has a sat phone as well.
Mister Juan
QUOTE (ntwi @ Jan 31 2013, 09:17 PM) *
Cellphones: I know my pocketsecretary is on the list, and I think Kliko has a sat phone as well.


We have two satphones. Kliko has one and Ludmila the other. She also has her usual personal cellphone, which is turned off (so it won't chirp while she's hidden under a table from the horde of jihadist ghouls).
Bastard
QUOTE (SneakyJoeKDB @ Jan 31 2013, 04:50 PM) *
It is a full size axe but the idea is to carry it at the hip the same way as the picture. Here is a full axe carry picture courtesy of the fire department:

Fireman Axe Carry


It was the axe in addition to everything else... and you dont have one of those, but you should purchase one. biggrin.gif

QUOTE (ntwi @ Jan 31 2013, 06:17 PM) *
Regarding Linguasofts: I though Kliko had loaded the chip into his headware memory and then passed the chip along. If that doesn't work it's not a problem, he can have those two linguasofts.

Cellphones: I know my pocketsecretary is on the list, and I think Kliko has a sat phone as well.


Linguasofts: Okay... I see now.

Cellphones: Just making sure no one is leaving theirs behind.


QUOTE (Mister Juan @ Jan 31 2013, 06:48 PM) *
We have two satphones. Kliko has one and Ludmila the other. She also has her usual personal cellphone, which is turned off (so it won't chirp while she's hidden under a table from the horde of jihadist ghouls).


Got that. One for Kliko and one for Ludi.

Kliko
QUOTE (ntwi @ Jan 31 2013, 10:17 PM) *
Regarding Linguasofts: I though Kliko had loaded the chip into his headware memory and then passed the chip along. If that doesn't work it's not a problem, he can have those two linguasofts.
This.
Bastard
K-

Were you going to post 1 hour out... or do you want me to bump... and did I already ask you this?
Kliko
QUOTE (Bastard @ Feb 1 2013, 02:43 AM) *
K-

Were you going to post 1 hour out... or do you want me to bump... and did I already ask you this?
You already asked for it.... twice.

Glad at least someone got the towel reference biggrin.gif

The mini-grenades are shotgun shell size according to sr3 main book. This is of course a bit stupid, so we can just as easily rule that one shotgun ammo pouch can hold 10 mini-grenades. All Kliko has to do is move his pistol ammo holder to a different slot. I used the standard weights from the book.

Just like Felix, Kliko brought along a compact water filtration unit and he got enough MRE's and energy bars to cover for the rest (he wasn't sure J would provide this)

Kliko is lugging around a standard 3kg basic medkit from the corebook.
Jaruen
Okay, guess you didn't pack Duster's paranoia kit...guess that's what I get for being too busy to actually pack for myself. I guess Bastard really wanted me to redshirt myself, if he didn't even pack a backpack or survival kit for me...I'm kinda scared to actually look at what "I" brought.

The towel reference was very well done, Kliko. I also really enjoyed HGttG.

I guess I am packing everything I can in the LBE. Large ammo pockets can hold other things, as well...let me know how much I can fit in.
SneakyJoeKDB
QUOTE (Jaruen @ Feb 1 2013, 09:53 AM) *
Okay, guess you didn't pack Duster's paranoia kit...guess that's what I get for being too busy to actually pack for myself. I guess Bastard really wanted me to redshirt myself, if he didn't even pack a backpack or survival kit for me...I'm kinda scared to actually look at what "I" brought.

The towel reference was very well done, Kliko. I also really enjoyed HGttG.

I guess I am packing everything I can in the LBE. Large ammo pockets can hold other things, as well...let me know how much I can fit in.



Well from Bubba's original load out he did bring "Bastards Mom", you are welcome to have that for your mission load-out since Bubba is leaving it on the plane. See post, #3244 list item #9.

grinbig.gif

We'll see if Bastard invites me back to his house after that elementary school joke. But hey, if I wasn't harrasing the GM it just wouldnt be the same.
SneakyJoeKDB
QUOTE (Bastard @ Jan 31 2013, 11:39 PM) *
It was the axe in addition to everything else... and you dont have one of those, but you should purchase one. biggrin.gif


Well he wouldnt bring an axe without a way to haul it properly, but ok... I suppose he will strap it to the back of his pack.
Mister Juan
So, are we stealing this shiny thing or what?
Mister Juan
QUOTE (Kliko @ Jan 27 2013, 06:35 AM) *
Kliko also brought five field rations and ten ration bars for each, which obviously need to be distributed amongst the team.
You don't run far on an empty stomach.


And there was this. So let me add those extra MREs to my loadout! nyahnyah.gif

@The whole team
Ludmila has 6 Strength and 7 Quickness, and she isn't carrying THAT much gear. She probably has a lighter load than most regular infantrymen carry out on patrol, and she's probably in as good, if not better, shape. So yea, if anyone seems a bit overburden with gear and what not, Ludi could probably carry some of it. I'm mainly thinking about the 300rds of ammo Bubba has for the Stoner. If need be, Ludi could carry a 100rds box in her pack. Same goes for Kliko's arsenal of mini grenades.

EDIT: And I just realized that Ludi forgot to bring her micro-transceiver unit with her.... so no radio for her smile.gif Everybody up to speed on their sign languages?
SneakyJoeKDB
Ludi has some muscles!! Appreciate the offer but Bubba's load wont even phase him. Better to keep the ammo with the HMG. I really dont expect to be needing 300 rounds but you never know.
Mister Juan
QUOTE (SneakyJoeKDB @ Feb 1 2013, 05:20 PM) *
Ludi has some muscles!! Appreciate the offer but Bubba's load wont even phase him. Better to keep the ammo with the HMG. I really dont expect to be needing 300 rounds but you never know.


Hey, she's gotta go toe to toe with orks and trolls, so... yea wink.gif
Mister Juan
I was browsing through the old Shadowbeat sourcebook and I realized something : IF we survive this, we should pool our cool million nuyen and buy a club. Or a restaurant. Or a bar. You know, invest in something stable for when our characters get too old to run nyahnyah.gif
SneakyJoeKDB
Donut shops are pretty cool!
Mister Juan
I wonder if there's a Donut Shop Themed Nightclub in the Bay area....
Bastard
QUOTE (Mister Juan @ Feb 1 2013, 07:45 PM) *
I wonder if there's a Donut Shop Themed Nightclub in the Bay area....

There could be...
Kliko
Kliko brought 5 Tactical comm units. He'll want Ludmilla, Felix, KD and Bubba to carry one. He'd disitribute extra comm-units over the group if anyone if these brought a decently encrypted unit with them.

Kliko's funds will go straight into his childrens collegefund...

-EDIT- Ludmilla can carry some of Kliko's explosives... or the medkit. All-in-all Kliko is in pretty good shape when he quick-releases the backpack.
Mister Juan
QUOTE (Kliko @ Feb 2 2013, 07:03 AM) *
-EDIT- Ludmilla can carry some of Kliko's explosives... or the medkit. All-in-all Kliko is in pretty good shape when he quick-releases the backpack.


She can take part of the explosives if he wants. For the medkit, she's already packing one as well.
Kliko
QUOTE (Mister Juan @ Feb 2 2013, 01:05 PM) *
She can take part of the explosives if he wants. For the medkit, she's already packing one as well.
Good, that saves another 1.25 kg.
[ Spoiler ]
Out of curiosity, how many teammembers are pack medkits?
I count Ludi, KD and Kliko.
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