I read it that AM might be giving into temptation.
Gilga, let us know!
Full Version: The Found Arcana - Tenth Interlude - Seattle [OOC]
I still struggle with the phone, the bit about temptation was of the allure of the super power focus 
She'll stay until after the show.
She'll stay until after the show.
Ahh, got it. I didn't make that connection at all.
Let me know if you'd like to post anything ICly. If not, we'll move on.
Let me know if you'd like to post anything ICly. If not, we'll move on.
Oh she is there but crowded places make her paranoid. So it is quite possible that she does not keep up with Raven. AM would be up in the morning, and jog to Redmond.
It's about 8km between the Bellevue place and Cutty's gym.
Per the rules, AM can jog about 19km. Not my favorite rule, but such are the possibilities of Agility 8. It will take AM 25 minutes to get there. I suppose even faster if Trouble uses Movement, although that's not advisable without the Guard power so that you don't trip while running 100kph.
Per p. 136, AM can run for (Body 6 + Running 1) * 10 = 70 minutes. Huh, never seen that rule before. Never needed it. Anyway, AM can make the run without any rest.
Gilga, let me know what AM is wearing/carrying with her. Jogging through Redmond is still jogging through Redmond. Iktomi might have some thoughts, especially on April Fools' Day.
Is 8:30am (the meet with the Rat & Tom) at the beginning or the end of the boxing lesson with Cutty?
Jack, is Bobby tagging along in human or animal form?
Beta, what's Tamarind up to on a Saturday morning?
Thanee, I presume Raven is finding some brunch, but I'll leave it up to you.
Per the rules, AM can jog about 19km. Not my favorite rule, but such are the possibilities of Agility 8. It will take AM 25 minutes to get there. I suppose even faster if Trouble uses Movement, although that's not advisable without the Guard power so that you don't trip while running 100kph.
Per p. 136, AM can run for (Body 6 + Running 1) * 10 = 70 minutes. Huh, never seen that rule before. Never needed it. Anyway, AM can make the run without any rest.
Gilga, let me know what AM is wearing/carrying with her. Jogging through Redmond is still jogging through Redmond. Iktomi might have some thoughts, especially on April Fools' Day.
Is 8:30am (the meet with the Rat & Tom) at the beginning or the end of the boxing lesson with Cutty?
Jack, is Bobby tagging along in human or animal form?
Beta, what's Tamarind up to on a Saturday morning?
Thanee, I presume Raven is finding some brunch, but I'll leave it up to you.
Bobby would accompany AM in dog form - that should help her out if she gains a bit too much attention.
I think she finishes at 8:30. 8km run seems like a warmup in her physical condition. She does not carry much on her body, comfortable sport clothes and an armored jacket which finally fits he, and her cyberdeck. . Leaving early to avoid scrutiny by the neighbors.
Honestly, the Zoé Second Skin is perfect for this. An armored jacket would be like running in a motorcycle jacket.
Jack, got it.
Jack, got it.
So lets do second skin.
Gilga, we posted at the same time.
Does Trouble have a specific strategy for looking for Tom & Rat? The basic description of the neighborhood was directed toward Tamarind's drones, but Trouble obviously has other tricks under his paw.
Does Trouble have a specific strategy for looking for Tom & Rat? The basic description of the neighborhood was directed toward Tamarind's drones, but Trouble obviously has other tricks under his paw.
Trouble will probably stick to astral for the mobility.
What does Bobby have for a commlink?
Bobby has modded goggles with R6 - so basically the equivalent to a Transsys Avalon
Can you put those on your sheet? I don't see them.
Is it using a trode net?
Is it using a trode net?
Trode Patch, yes
Line 159 - the critter goggles R6
Line 159 - the critter goggles R6
Jack, for my future plans, can I confirm how you did the goggles? I think it was buy a piece of gear with a high rating level (like level 6 goggles), then use the "persona firmware" modification (page 66, Data Trails) to add the ability to run a persona. May not have all the usual 'link functions (camera, alarm clock, whatever) but when you can access the matrix you can just get programs to get most of that anyway.
(and nothing to add IC just yet. Tamarind will monitor for up to half an hour before trying to contact AM and Bobby)
(and nothing to add IC just yet. Tamarind will monitor for up to half an hour before trying to contact AM and Bobby)
Correct.
I might add, that you can get electronic packs cheap by taking apart commlinks and tags
I might add, that you can get electronic packs cheap by taking apart commlinks and tags
Bows somehow make the best comlinks;)
There is a device called Faceless that can have a device rating of 10. (AVA of 20)
Longterm, that would be my favorite for a commlink as it has the added benefit of editing out your face of all surrounding video devices.
Longterm, that would be my favorite for a commlink as it has the added benefit of editing out your face of all surrounding video devices.
Hi Jack, I'm drawing a blank in trying to think what book AVA would be?
Availability
QUOTE (Jack_Spade @ Aug 26 2023, 09:52 PM) 
Availability
Doh, I was reading page 20 of book 'AVA'.
(which book is it from?)
Faceless was introduced in Kill Code.
Apologies for the delay. There's COVID in the vicinity. I'm fine but others in my orbit are not and I'm having to pick up their slack.
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As for the goggles, I think we're blending two separate concepts: Rating and Device Rating. Unfortunately they use the same word; I wish one would be called "grade" or "rank" or something related.
Things like contacts and goggles and bows have Ratings to signify where they are on the scale of such things, but this is not the same as Device Rating.
Device Ratings are described on p. 234 and then repeated again on p. 421 of SR5. Most consumer electronics are going to have a Device Rating of 2, which means Data Processing 2 and Firewall 2.
To gilga's point, bows go up to Rating 10, but we wouldn't say that they have Device Rating 10 (and thus Data Processing 10 and Firewall 10). Because it's a weapon, the bow would have a Device Rating of 2.
Now we're obviously getting to the point where we have plenty of karma and plenty of money flying around, so saving a few nuyen isn't going to break anything. What I'm more concerned about is the "Hacking Economy" of the game world, namely that if we're doing this then so will everyone else. That will make AM's job considerably tougher, perhaps to the point where we don't like the implications. Let's keep it in mind so that it doesn't backfire on us.
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As for the goggles, I think we're blending two separate concepts: Rating and Device Rating. Unfortunately they use the same word; I wish one would be called "grade" or "rank" or something related.
Things like contacts and goggles and bows have Ratings to signify where they are on the scale of such things, but this is not the same as Device Rating.
Device Ratings are described on p. 234 and then repeated again on p. 421 of SR5. Most consumer electronics are going to have a Device Rating of 2, which means Data Processing 2 and Firewall 2.
To gilga's point, bows go up to Rating 10, but we wouldn't say that they have Device Rating 10 (and thus Data Processing 10 and Firewall 10). Because it's a weapon, the bow would have a Device Rating of 2.
Now we're obviously getting to the point where we have plenty of karma and plenty of money flying around, so saving a few nuyen isn't going to break anything. What I'm more concerned about is the "Hacking Economy" of the game world, namely that if we're doing this then so will everyone else. That will make AM's job considerably tougher, perhaps to the point where we don't like the implications. Let's keep it in mind so that it doesn't backfire on us.
Given that we are in Bellevue here, Rachel probably has to have her commlink and SIN active, anyways, so no real point in using a fake name (without the appropriate SIN to cover it... maybe I should look into acquring one at some point, you never know how useful that could be).
She would not invent working for some corp (i.e. Gaeatronics), though. Rather say something like "just doing some freelance work" or "I'm into fashion design", or something like that.
Bye
Thanee
She would not invent working for some corp (i.e. Gaeatronics), though. Rather say something like "just doing some freelance work" or "I'm into fashion design", or something like that.
Bye
Thanee
QUOTE (Tecumseh @ Aug 29 2023, 08:18 AM)
Apologies for the delay. There's COVID in the vicinity. I'm fine but others in my orbit are not and I'm having to pick up their slack.
Noone needs that.
Bye
Thanee
@Tecumseh
It's more of a disconnect between mechanics and world description (similar how the movement notation system in Core makes no sense at all in the context of the world)
Because usually, Capacity is disconnected from (Device) Rating. In Core the regular goggles' price is defined as Capacity x 50¥
The critter goggles on the other hand, have explicitly 50¥ x Rating (1–6) and this sentence in their description: "These goggles have a capacity equal to their rating."
Bows have a description on what their rating means (a strength rating)
So I admit, it probably was not intended as an option, but neither were the stealth tag hacking devices.
As for why not everyone (ab)uses them: The same reason most people don't jailbreak their phones, even though it's really simple and a great way to get corporate bloat- and spyware off your device: It can ruin your device, make it less secure if you don't get your updates anymore and require more maintenance in general.
SR4 had a very nice ruleset for that (software degradation) to deal with hacked lifestyle/equipment.
As a compromise, we could borrow that for our game as well. Bobby would have to put in the time and rolls to maintain his hacked/cludged together equipment.
It's more of a disconnect between mechanics and world description (similar how the movement notation system in Core makes no sense at all in the context of the world)
Because usually, Capacity is disconnected from (Device) Rating. In Core the regular goggles' price is defined as Capacity x 50¥
The critter goggles on the other hand, have explicitly 50¥ x Rating (1–6) and this sentence in their description: "These goggles have a capacity equal to their rating."
Bows have a description on what their rating means (a strength rating)
So I admit, it probably was not intended as an option, but neither were the stealth tag hacking devices.
As for why not everyone (ab)uses them: The same reason most people don't jailbreak their phones, even though it's really simple and a great way to get corporate bloat- and spyware off your device: It can ruin your device, make it less secure if you don't get your updates anymore and require more maintenance in general.
SR4 had a very nice ruleset for that (software degradation) to deal with hacked lifestyle/equipment.
As a compromise, we could borrow that for our game as well. Bobby would have to put in the time and rolls to maintain his hacked/cludged together equipment.
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Pirated Software
Pirated software—i.e. programs whose copy-protection and activation/validation anti-piracy mechanisms have been bypassed through cracking—are usually distributed by warez sites (see Piracy, p. 94). While pirated programs have the advantage of not being linked to a registered SIN, they are not automatically updated and patched in the same manner as legal software. Without registration and the confirmation that the copy is legitimate and licensed, the software is not authorized to connect to the manufacturer’s update sites. In game terms, illegal and pirated software—and also programs that a character has coded himself (p. 118)—degrade over time, reflecting that the program is slowly becoming outdated.
Hacking and malware programs degrade at the rate of 1 rating point per month; all other programs degrade 1 rating point per 2 months.
To circumvent or prevent degradation of their utilities, hackers have three options. First, skilled hackers with programming resources can patch programs (see Patching, p. 118) on their own.
Second, those that have connections to warez sites can go looking for an updated pirated copy. Third, daredevil hackers of course always have the option of hacking the corporate patching nodes directly to steal the patch for themselves and their contacts.
Pirated software—i.e. programs whose copy-protection and activation/validation anti-piracy mechanisms have been bypassed through cracking—are usually distributed by warez sites (see Piracy, p. 94). While pirated programs have the advantage of not being linked to a registered SIN, they are not automatically updated and patched in the same manner as legal software. Without registration and the confirmation that the copy is legitimate and licensed, the software is not authorized to connect to the manufacturer’s update sites. In game terms, illegal and pirated software—and also programs that a character has coded himself (p. 118)—degrade over time, reflecting that the program is slowly becoming outdated.
Hacking and malware programs degrade at the rate of 1 rating point per month; all other programs degrade 1 rating point per 2 months.
To circumvent or prevent degradation of their utilities, hackers have three options. First, skilled hackers with programming resources can patch programs (see Patching, p. 118) on their own.
Second, those that have connections to warez sites can go looking for an updated pirated copy. Third, daredevil hackers of course always have the option of hacking the corporate patching nodes directly to steal the patch for themselves and their contacts.
@Jack - I like degradation - I just don't like bookkeeping.
- there is also a unique form factor or something to pay a little extra and have things look differently. So R6 Goggles comlink is doable (albeit more expensive, but not huge amounts of nuyen).
The Erika with overlocker and a program can reach 6 in any matrix attribute - I think it is still better than most tricked comlinks and dongles and their ilk. I don't mind others dabbling in decking.
- there is also a unique form factor or something to pay a little extra and have things look differently. So R6 Goggles comlink is doable (albeit more expensive, but not huge amounts of nuyen).
The Erika with overlocker and a program can reach 6 in any matrix attribute - I think it is still better than most tricked comlinks and dongles and their ilk. I don't mind others dabbling in decking.
In SR4A, I just used a monthly "fee" (for software, the added-up cost of the monthly patches plus half of the bi-monthly patches) to keep things from degrading, which was simply added to lifestyle costs. That minimizes the bookkeeping. 
Bye
Thanee
Bye
Thanee
QUOTE (Thanee @ Aug 29 2023, 01:21 AM)
She would not invent working for some corp (i.e. Gaeatronics), though. Rather say something like "just doing some freelance work" or "I'm into fashion design", or something like that.
Noted. That said, I tried to keep it ambiguous. In my head they were playing a guessing game about where Raven works. He guessed Gaeatronics (because of her heritage, Gaeatronics is a Salish corp) and she didn't bother to correct him.
But if she would have actively discouraged the misunderstanding, I can remove it.
As for the electronics, Degradation sounds good to me.
Buy three hits on perception.
NB she is now running at eight points of noise reduction (5 from rating 5 RCC, 1 from using a datajack, 2 for the Signal Scrub program, 2 for the Silence is Golden's quality she bought after the last chapter). She needs three to overcome the noise of the range, but hopefully five will tame the Touristville noise.
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On the critter goggles link, a small note because trodes overcomes most of it, but this trick doesn't make it a link, it lets it form a person's. The persona is all you need for matrix stuff, but it would not inherit the base commlink functionality ( but who cares, you can duplicate pretty much all of that via the matrix. But it may just behave a bit differently)
NB she is now running at eight points of noise reduction (5 from rating 5 RCC, 1 from using a datajack, 2 for the Signal Scrub program, 2 for the Silence is Golden's quality she bought after the last chapter). She needs three to overcome the noise of the range, but hopefully five will tame the Touristville noise.
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On the critter goggles link, a small note because trodes overcomes most of it, but this trick doesn't make it a link, it lets it form a person's. The persona is all you need for matrix stuff, but it would not inherit the base commlink functionality ( but who cares, you can duplicate pretty much all of that via the matrix. But it may just behave a bit differently)
QUOTE (Tecumseh @ Aug 29 2023, 11:40 PM)
Noted. That said, I tried to keep it ambiguous. In my head they were playing a guessing game about where Raven works. He guessed Gaeatronics (because of her heritage, Gaeatronics is a Salish corp) and she didn't bother to correct him.
But if she would have actively discouraged the misunderstanding, I can remove it.
But if she would have actively discouraged the misunderstanding, I can remove it.
No, that is fine. She simply wouldn't have lied in such a way (unless there was a reason to), but that is not the same thing.
Bye
Thanee
We're getting close to the end of the Interlude.
Let me know if there's anything you want to do before we wrap it up!
Let me know if there's anything you want to do before we wrap it up!
Rachel left something on the table...
Bye
Thanee
Bye
Thanee
Thanks for the reminder; I missed that.
Gilga, AM has a card to open when she gets home.
Gilga, AM has a card to open when she gets home.
I'll get her home, sure. Bobby can do the escort;)
I'll need to think of a few Jests for the neighbors. I thought about issuing a memo that the neighborhood watch should wear green bandanas. (like a gang) or something along these lines, and then have these delivered to its members. I'll see if I come up with anything more fun for the next post. I'l
I'll need to think of a few Jests for the neighbors. I thought about issuing a memo that the neighborhood watch should wear green bandanas. (like a gang) or something along these lines, and then have these delivered to its members.
I'll see if I come up with anything more fun for the next post. I'l
I think the green bandanas would be hilarious. You'll need to get some delivered though because rich folks don't have bandanas sitting around.
She'll buy a bunch on the way home.
by the way, here is what I have for a notification about the green bandanas.
can you help me with the neighborhood names and the name for someone responsible for that (do I make someone up or do we already fleshed these people).
Dear Residents of Highlander's,
We hope this message finds you well. The Homeowner Association (HOA) would like to remind everyone of a recent resolution passed during our last meeting concerning the uniform attire for neighborhood guard volunteers.
Resolution Details:
At our last HOA meeting, it was decided that neighborhood guard volunteers are required to wear green bandanas while on duty. This decision was made for two primary reasons:
Easy Identification: The green bandanas will serve as a quick and easy means of identifying our dedicated neighborhood guard volunteers. This will help ensure the safety and security of our community members, allowing residents to easily recognize those who are there to assist and protect.
Promoting a Safe Environment: While we understand the importance of vigilance and safety, the intent behind this uniform change is not to "instill fear" in anyone. Rather, it is to create a more secure and welcoming environment for all residents. The presence of our neighborhood guard volunteers, easily identifiable by their green bandanas, will deter any undesirable activities and promote a sense of security within our community.
We want to emphasize that our neighborhood guard volunteers are here to help maintain a safe and friendly atmosphere within our neighborhood. They are trained to address concerns and assist with any issues that may arise.
We kindly ask for your cooperation and support in this matter. If you have any questions or concerns about this resolution or any other HOA-related issues, please do not hesitate to reach out to the HOA board or attend our upcoming meetings. Your feedback is valuable to us, and we are committed to making our neighborhood an even better place to live.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.
Sincerely,
Arjan Jimenez, CPM
Property Manager
Emerald City Property Management
can you help me with the neighborhood names and the name for someone responsible for that (do I make someone up or do we already fleshed these people).
Dear Residents of Highlander's,
We hope this message finds you well. The Homeowner Association (HOA) would like to remind everyone of a recent resolution passed during our last meeting concerning the uniform attire for neighborhood guard volunteers.
Resolution Details:
At our last HOA meeting, it was decided that neighborhood guard volunteers are required to wear green bandanas while on duty. This decision was made for two primary reasons:
Easy Identification: The green bandanas will serve as a quick and easy means of identifying our dedicated neighborhood guard volunteers. This will help ensure the safety and security of our community members, allowing residents to easily recognize those who are there to assist and protect.
Promoting a Safe Environment: While we understand the importance of vigilance and safety, the intent behind this uniform change is not to "instill fear" in anyone. Rather, it is to create a more secure and welcoming environment for all residents. The presence of our neighborhood guard volunteers, easily identifiable by their green bandanas, will deter any undesirable activities and promote a sense of security within our community.
We want to emphasize that our neighborhood guard volunteers are here to help maintain a safe and friendly atmosphere within our neighborhood. They are trained to address concerns and assist with any issues that may arise.
We kindly ask for your cooperation and support in this matter. If you have any questions or concerns about this resolution or any other HOA-related issues, please do not hesitate to reach out to the HOA board or attend our upcoming meetings. Your feedback is valuable to us, and we are committed to making our neighborhood an even better place to live.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.
Sincerely,
Arjan Jimenez, CPM
Property Manager
Emerald City Property Management
1) That's hilarious
2) This will cause so much trouble - great RP potential
2) This will cause so much trouble - great RP potential
This is indeed quite funny.
I have been calling the neighborhood "Highlands" and so I think of it as the "Highlands Homeowners Association".
Edie (pronounced E-D) is the President. She doesn't have a last name so I'll call her "Edie Thom".
There are a few ways to go about it:
1) Send it from Edie and hopes that no one questions her about it. A well-timed Influence spell might help Edie think that this is her idea.
2) Send it from the property manager, which is the company that collects HOA dues, pays Sakura, etc. In that case you could use:
Arjan Jimenez, CPM
Property Manager
Emerald City Property Management
3) Send it from Sakura from someone high up enough that nobody will question it.
Taguchi Gorou
Assistant District Manager
Sakura Security
I have been calling the neighborhood "Highlands" and so I think of it as the "Highlands Homeowners Association".
Edie (pronounced E-D) is the President. She doesn't have a last name so I'll call her "Edie Thom".
There are a few ways to go about it:
1) Send it from Edie and hopes that no one questions her about it. A well-timed Influence spell might help Edie think that this is her idea.
2) Send it from the property manager, which is the company that collects HOA dues, pays Sakura, etc. In that case you could use:
Arjan Jimenez, CPM
Property Manager
Emerald City Property Management
3) Send it from Sakura from someone high up enough that nobody will question it.
Taguchi Gorou
Assistant District Manager
Sakura Security
I haven't updated the sheet yet but AM has a brand new link. (bought it when I bought Raven's link).
Much like Tamarind, I'd spent a bit of time watching what was going on around Cutty's gym without feeling a need to get more involved. I'd come up with something I was going to post Friday evening, then on the way home from a quick trip to Ikea, while my son was driving, a cyclist ran a red light and we hit him. Thankfully the young man managed to not apparently get too badly hurt (regained consciousness quickly, nothing broken, seemed reasonably lucid given what had happened, paramedics let him get onto the stretcher himself), and we were less than a kilometre from a major hospital, but obviously the evening and weekend rather went sideways. I'm only just settling back into routine. I'll adapt what I'd been thinking about, given what has progressed since earlier Friday.
And this is obvious, but be careful out there.
And this is obvious, but be careful out there.
Oh, wow! That's an unhappy shock. Although I honestly wonder why it doesn't happen more often. I'm all for driving less, but where I am all the cyclists are lawless anarchists when it comes to the rules of the road.
What's a "quick trip to Ikea"? j/k
What's a "quick trip to Ikea"? j/k
Oh wow, this is awful Beta.
It's a sign of a good person, if you feel bad for what happened, despite knowing full well, it was the other person's fault.
Glad to hear, that nothing worse happened there.
Around here, cyclist are also kind of reckless sometimes. And there are those bicycle couriers and food delivery folk that are always in such a hurry.
Bye
Thanee
Glad to hear, that nothing worse happened there.
Around here, cyclist are also kind of reckless sometimes. And there are those bicycle couriers and food delivery folk that are always in such a hurry.
Bye
Thanee
In BS they mainly use the sidewalk because most streets would have no pedestrian traffic as it is too hot. I go everywhere by bicycle. Too hot to get into a car for most distances.
Oh, yeah, when it is hot and the car is parked outside, it is no fun getting inside... cooking!
@Wards: I know you can let people in with wards you created, but a magical lodge? Not sure, if that is possible.
After looking into it a bit more, since I was wondering how it works with your own lodge, even, it turns out, that you do create it (you only buy the materials). So, yeah, Rachel should be able to let you pass through without any hassle.
Bye
Thanee
@Wards: I know you can let people in with wards you created, but a magical lodge? Not sure, if that is possible.
After looking into it a bit more, since I was wondering how it works with your own lodge, even, it turns out, that you do create it (you only buy the materials). So, yeah, Rachel should be able to let you pass through without any hassle.
Bye
Thanee
We all identified with him, as we are all cyclists. Heck, I rode through that intersection on the way home from work earlier on Friday. No idea why he blasted through the intersection like that, and when you get knocked out you lose some seconds of memory so he likely doesn't either.
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I'm way out of the timeline, so I'm having Jawsey arrange to come back later in the day. Really it is just to check in on the team, wish AM happy birthday, and show that so far he's still alive and not gone toxic.
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I'm way out of the timeline, so I'm having Jawsey arrange to come back later in the day. Really it is just to check in on the team, wish AM happy birthday, and show that so far he's still alive and not gone toxic.
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