Okay, I am going to say that Winters shot does not hit close to Erebus, so Ced dont feel compelled to return fire.
SR 13 you are taking a 3 round burst, of lethal rounds. Soak or Dodge, damage is 12D (I suggest you dodge you will need 4 successes to Dodge).
Dragon, soak or dodge a 12S (3 successes needed to dodge)
Erebus, you are now in hand to hand, give me a roll, the Bartender is trying to garrote you. You need 1 success to not take damage, two to turn it around, your TN is 4.
Full Version: OOC: A Short Victorius War
Shadow- I'm assuming you want us to post our rolls and what not first before telling us what happened as a result of Dragon's shots? Or did I just miss everyone? 
Specifically, what happened as a result of the shots at Goon B?
Dodge: 13 07 04 02 = 3 successes. Man I love my dice! They honor all the rituals I have done to enchant them!
(Unless it was TN 5 from BF, in which case I'll use karma)
Reroll 1: 07 03 and then I will have 3 successes for total dodge.
EDIT: I am an idiot. In retrospect, I would've had a lower TN AND a better chance to soak AND looked a hell of a lot cooler just standing there and taking the shot. If I had yelled, "FORTITUDE!!!" while doing so, would I have got bonus cool points? And I would've saved myself a karma point. Blast! It's been way too long since I've played a character who could actually take a hit. Grr...next time, think first, THEN roll.
Specifically, what happened as a result of the shots at Goon B?
Dodge: 13 07 04 02 = 3 successes. Man I love my dice! They honor all the rituals I have done to enchant them!
(Unless it was TN 5 from BF, in which case I'll use karma)
Reroll 1: 07 03 and then I will have 3 successes for total dodge.
EDIT: I am an idiot. In retrospect, I would've had a lower TN AND a better chance to soak AND looked a hell of a lot cooler just standing there and taking the shot. If I had yelled, "FORTITUDE!!!" while doing so, would I have got bonus cool points? And I would've saved myself a karma point. Blast! It's been way too long since I've played a character who could actually take a hit.
Grr...next time, think first, THEN roll.
Alright...using 5 combat pool for a Dodge test...
8, 4, 4, 3, 2
I believe the word here is "Ouch..."
SR13
8, 4, 4, 3, 2
I believe the word here is "Ouch..."
SR13
Well Soak it I guess, do get to use those three successes toward your soak.
Wait, is the TN to dodge 4 or 5 Shadow?
Base = 4
Per 3 bullets from BF or FA = +1
Total = 5
Sorry SR13, just trying to be honest with the GM.
Base = 4
Per 3 bullets from BF or FA = +1
Total = 5
Sorry SR13, just trying to be honest with the GM.
Nice catch, yeah its 5, so you get to carry one over to your soak test.
| QUOTE (Winterrat1) |
| Shadow- I'm assuming you want us to post our rolls and what not first before telling us what happened as a result of Dragon's shots? Or did I just miss everyone? |
Sorry, I posted that you hit Goon A but I forgot about Goon B. Theres a lot going on!
| QUOTE (Rat) |
| (Unless it was TN 5 from BF, in which case I'll use karma) |
It was TN 5, my mistake. So you needed to use Karma. HAHA!
Turn order. We can resolve Erebus at anytime so no hurry there. Tenmou is up, unless you die.
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Okay, I'm going to feel like shooting at Dragon unless I actually get hit by a bullet to help avoid inter-player conflict but remember Erebus doesn't know any of you and when I see a Guardian lipping flame and bottles bursting over my head I'm not going to be terribly thrilled. However, as my character is busy right this moment I doubt he's going to be interested in returning fire.
Unarmed combat 5 + 1 enhanced articulation + 2 combat pool dice TN 4:
1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 5 HOLY CRAP!
That was terrible, spend karma, slap computer monitor, shut down Irony Dice Game Roller and re-open.
Karma reroll:
1, 1, 2, 4, 4, 5, 14, 15 Aaahhhhhh, much better. Pet monitor, Good computer, good computer.
Unarmed combat 5 + 1 enhanced articulation + 2 combat pool dice TN 4:
1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 5
HOLY CRAP! That was terrible, spend karma, slap computer monitor, shut down Irony Dice Game Roller and re-open.
Karma reroll:
1, 1, 2, 4, 4, 5, 14, 15 Aaahhhhhh, much better. Pet monitor, Good computer, good computer.
Ced your welcome to post the turn about if you want to. Basically you were able to fend of the attack and hit him a bit. He is hurt but not seriously.
On the note of that: remember it's perfectly fine to scream and yell at Dragon later (or even during!), you can dislike him, hate him etc etc et al. It's true we have a thin (but clear line) in regards to inter-PC conflict so even though we're in a tense situation in which I agree it's perfectly logical Erebus wouldn't take too bright a view of the situation, we all need to remind ourselves to be cool.
Heh, I'll admit, I felt like shooting Tenmou when he butted into Daedalus and Dragon's conversation with Vinnie and started this whole blasted mess.
And this is a great illustration of why we have the thorough and clear guidelines, because it is quite reasonable that after we finished with the Mafia, we'd go after each other! The joys of planning for potential problems ahead of time.
Heh, I'll admit, I felt like shooting Tenmou when he butted into Daedalus and Dragon's conversation with Vinnie and started this whole blasted mess.
And this is a great illustration of why we have the thorough and clear guidelines, because it is quite reasonable that after we finished with the Mafia, we'd go after each other! The joys of planning for potential problems ahead of time.
It is?
Hi, ok so I'm back, thankfully Daedalus has a slow enough initiative that I'm in time to post for him.
Thanks again for the roll Sedna.
one thing I'd like to point out, that mob guy pulled out a...
Thanks again for the roll Sedna.
one thing I'd like to point out, that mob guy pulled out a...
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| very heavily modified Ares Predator. The weapon 'clinks' as he draws it, a spring loaded front handle drops down. The mobster pushes the gun out in front of him. The roar of a three round burst |
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Ares Predator with a front handle and burst fire!?! wow.
Ares Predator with a front handle and burst fire!?! wow.
OK maybe not reasonable, but possible.
SR13-
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| Heh, I'll admit, I felt like shooting Tenmou when he butted into Daedalus and Dragon's conversation with Vinnie and started this whole blasted mess. smile.gif |
I apologize if this in any way, shape, or form, felt like a backhanded slap or insult to you. I was attempting to establish with Cedric that I (as a player) understand how or why Erebus might feel hostility towards Dragon, but also realizing that he as a player wasn't taking anything personally.
In a similar way, Dragon the character may not feel thrilled with Tenmou, but I the player have nothing against you. I apologize if it came across as a shot at you OOC.
| QUOTE (Tiredronin) | ||
| Hi, ok so I'm back, thankfully Daedalus has a slow enough initiative that I'm in time to post for him. Thanks again for the roll Sedna. one thing I'd like to point out, that mob guy pulled out a...
. Ares Predator with a front handle and burst fire!?! wow. |
I thought it was cool, and a nice variation on the standard heavy pistols. It would have been cooler if I could have remembered what the little handle thingy is called on the front of SMG's.
Shadow- It's called a foregrip, I believe. Who are we waiting on again?
| QUOTE (WinterRat1) |
| Shadow- It's called a foregrip, I believe. Who are we waiting on again? |
Me--
I injured myself over the weekend so posts today re going to be in a "as feeling good" capacity. I just took some painkillers so give it a little time to kick in.
| QUOTE (Sedna) |
| It is? |
Sedna, I think it would be very reasonable for Erebus to start capping at Dragon. Think about the situation, Erebus see's all hell breaking loose a jumps for cover. He see's Dragon begin shooting, remember this is all happening extremely fast, and one of Dragon's first shots breaks bottles within inches of Erebus' head. Erebus has no idea who this runner is, Erebus is generally paranoid that his past is coming to get him in the first place, and the situation felt like a set up from the very beginning(which it turns out to be, thus justifying Erebus' paranoia).
Erebus is likely to react by shooting at everyone and everything that threatens him and running for the door at the first chance he gets. With all the bullets flying around and everyone shooting there isn't going to be time for a detailed analysis of the shots, merely the sight of the guns pointed in your direction.
Now in the present circumstances, Erebus is busy enough trying to deal with a relatively angry bartender who seems to be somewhat territorial about who's behind his bar, so he's probably going to forget one random shot in his direction so long as the bullets don't keep coming, but if the bartender had dived for cover instead of attacking then the only person making hostile moves toward Erebus would have been Dragon, and he'd react accordingly.
I think WinterRat's statement that it would be "reasonable" for us to go after each other was very accurate. Not going to happen, but still reasonable.
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| Now in the present circumstances, Erebus is busy enough trying to deal with a relatively angry bartender who seems to be somewhat territorial about who's behind his bar |
I just couldn't help cracking up at this.
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| if the bartender had dived for cover instead of attacking then the only person making hostile moves toward Erebus would have been Dragon, and he'd react accordingly. |
It's ironic, but that's exactly what I wanted him to do instead of attacking anyone, particularly Erebus! (I was thinking he'd pull a shotgun from underneath and fire at you at point-blank range, but the garrote was a very nice touch Shadow! I was having Godfather flashes in my head) If Dragon had succeeded, he would've marked himself for Erebus's hostility, despite his best intentions. Lucky me!
If I see one more "error post deleted" in the IC thread.... No karma for you!
Tenmou is up next and I think we are waiting for him. I believe everything that was pending resolution is done. Of course I am out of my mind with pain so I may be wrong.
=turn thingy that says turn order
Tenmou is up next and I think we are waiting for him. I believe everything that was pending resolution is done. Of course I am out of my mind with pain so I may be wrong.
=turn thingy that says turn order
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Shadow, sorry about the Error in post, I ended up with two thirds of it posted there and then a double post. How would you like me to fix that?
Cedric
P.S. I hope you're feeling better, trust me I understand being sore, I spent the weekend doing SCA fighting and have bruises enough to spare.
"The existence of Advil is proof that a benevolent Deity exists"
Cedric Rolfsson
Cedric
P.S. I hope you're feeling better, trust me I understand being sore, I spent the weekend doing SCA fighting and have bruises enough to spare.
"The existence of Advil is proof that a benevolent Deity exists"
Cedric Rolfsson
Cedric- What does the SCA in SCA Fighting stand for? I'm not familiar with the SCA acronym.
Society for Creative Anachronisms (or something)
They dress up in olden clothes and walk around speaking in old english. I can't remember if they are the branch that demands fanatical devotion to time period correctness.
"You can't use that rapier, it's 15th century, and your boots are 14th! Heretic!"
Or if there the guys who just have fun and just use whatever.
They dress up in olden clothes and walk around speaking in old english. I can't remember if they are the branch that demands fanatical devotion to time period correctness.
"You can't use that rapier, it's 15th century, and your boots are 14th! Heretic!"
Or if there the guys who just have fun and just use whatever.
Arrrgh... I'm having internet issues. I'm at a friend's machine with none of my character notes at the ready.
The second I have access and my SR stuff, I'll make my body test and action (provided I live...)
It's looking like Tenmou is going to have a short career...
WinterRat, no worries. No insult taken. If it wasn't for Tenmou's commitment to being on time, he would have held back... but the Johnson told him 21:00 sharp...
And now I need a trip to the hospital...
The second I have access and my SR stuff, I'll make my body test and action (provided I live...)
It's looking like Tenmou is going to have a short career...
WinterRat, no worries. No insult taken. If it wasn't for Tenmou's commitment to being on time, he would have held back... but the Johnson told him 21:00 sharp...
And now I need a trip to the hospital...
| QUOTE (Shadow) |
| Society for Creative Anachronisms (or something) They dress up in olden clothes and walk around speaking in old english. I can't remember if they are the branch that demands fanatical devotion to time period correctness. "You can't use that rapier, it's 15th century, and your boots are 14th! Heretic!" Or if there the guys who just have fun and just use whatever. |
Shadow is correct we're the Society for Creative Anachronisms, we are research based middle/dark age reconstructionists. The crew I hang with are not period fanatics, I wear combat boots most of the time. No one actually talks in Olde English that I'm aware of mostly we get together and camp in period and party and fight.
What I primarily do is the combat. Its full contact, with rattan weapons instead of live steel, and real armor. It results in a lot of bruises and sore muscles, and I tend to exist on Advil after an event.
I had a weekend event and I'm eating Advil like they were M&Ms.
Tenmou wears Full Body FFBA... hopefully, it'll help...
Body test = 15, 5, 5, 5, 5, 1
Uh oh...
SR13
Body test = 15, 5, 5, 5, 5, 1
Uh oh...
SR13
You did score a success, you may use karma
Plus, you're only at S as is, so don't worry about dying, at least not yet. I'd try to get at least 2 more successes if I were you, M is much easier to stomach.
Alright, I'll use some karma to re-roll my failures...
Reroll Body = 11, 11, 5, 4, 3
Wow! Probably the best roll I'll get in a while...
SR13
Reroll Body = 11, 11, 5, 4, 3
Wow! Probably the best roll I'll get in a while...
SR13
SR13 are you posting? Who are we waiting for?
It's obvious we're not going to finish this combat prior to my going on vacation this coming week. My wife has specifically forbidden me from bringing my notebook so I'm not going to have email access for awhile and I don't want this to wait on my return. Shadow or Bandit, the spoiler is for whichever one of you wants to run Erebus in my absence.
Above all Erebus is going to try not to die. I removed my armored vest so all the armor I'm wearing now is the Armored Jacket 5/3 over normal clothing. Erebus is not injured to this point.
This should give you enough data to be able to effectively run Erebus until I get back. I'll be available to post until Friday evening Pacific Time, then I'm outta here.
It's obvious we're not going to finish this combat prior to my going on vacation this coming week. My wife has specifically forbidden me from bringing my notebook so I'm not going to have email access for awhile and I don't want this to wait on my return. Shadow or Bandit, the spoiler is for whichever one of you wants to run Erebus in my absence.
[ Spoiler ]
Above all Erebus is going to try not to die. I removed my armored vest so all the armor I'm wearing now is the Armored Jacket 5/3 over normal clothing. Erebus is not injured to this point.
This should give you enough data to be able to effectively run Erebus until I get back. I'll be available to post until Friday evening Pacific Time, then I'm outta here.
Shadow: I am not going to look at that spoiler. For all intents and purposes Erebus is your PC while he plays in ASVW, much as Virgil is your PC for the moment. If you'd like me to post for him I can always help take up the slack, but this is your call.
Erebus: Thanks for providing that information in the name of smooth game-play. I hope that your vacation is amazing. I wish you and your family safe travels.
Erebus: Thanks for providing that information in the name of smooth game-play. I hope that your vacation is amazing. I wish you and your family safe travels.
Temporary Absence Announcement
Hey all,
This weekend starting at 4pm central time I will be headed to Indianapolis, IN to attend the wedding of a friend. I will be back early Sunday evening. If something vital happens in ASVW I believe that I will have internet access so I should not miss anything. Thanks everyone.
Enjoy your weekends!
Hey all,
This weekend starting at 4pm central time I will be headed to Indianapolis, IN to attend the wedding of a friend. I will be back early Sunday evening. If something vital happens in ASVW I believe that I will have internet access so I should not miss anything. Thanks everyone.
Enjoy your weekends!
SR13- Unless I'm mistaken (hope I'm not butting in Shadow) we're still waiting on you. Unless you roll again with karma, you've got an M wound and it's your action next. Am I correct on this Shadow?
Alright, burn Karma one more time...
Reroll again = 22, 5, 3 (holy jeebus...)
So, after this how much damage is Tenmou taking and what happens (is he knocked down, how close is the fragger who shot me, etc)
Reroll again = 22, 5, 3 (holy jeebus...)
So, after this how much damage is Tenmou taking and what happens (is he knocked down, how close is the fragger who shot me, etc)
By way of trying to help keep things moving:
Base Gun Damage from Goon: 9M
+3 Power from Burst
+1 Damage Level from Burst
Modified Gun Damage from Goon: 12S
Goon Total Successes: 4 (because 4 successes would have been needed to dodge, hence 4 successes on ranged attack test)
SR13's Dodge Test: 1 success
SR13's Soak Test at TN 8 (12 - 4 [FFBA3: Ballistic 4] ): 4 successes
Total SR13 successes: 5
Net: SR13 +1 (4-5 = -1 in favor of SR13)
Not enough to stage down, result is base damage, for S wound. SR13 must also make a Knockdown test. Unfortunately, I don't have the knockdown test rules memorized, a little help someone?
After the knockdown test it will be SR13's turn to go, and he has just been whacked with an S wound, unless the resulting injury modifiers drop his turn order below someone else's. He also has a +3 modifier to all TNs, barring any injury compensation edges/cyber/bio.
Base Gun Damage from Goon: 9M
+3 Power from Burst
+1 Damage Level from Burst
Modified Gun Damage from Goon: 12S
Goon Total Successes: 4 (because 4 successes would have been needed to dodge, hence 4 successes on ranged attack test)
SR13's Dodge Test: 1 success
SR13's Soak Test at TN 8 (12 - 4 [FFBA3: Ballistic 4] ): 4 successes
Total SR13 successes: 5
Net: SR13 +1 (4-5 = -1 in favor of SR13)
Not enough to stage down, result is base damage, for S wound. SR13 must also make a Knockdown test. Unfortunately, I don't have the knockdown test rules memorized, a little help someone?
After the knockdown test it will be SR13's turn to go, and he has just been whacked with an S wound, unless the resulting injury modifiers drop his turn order below someone else's. He also has a +3 modifier to all TNs, barring any injury compensation edges/cyber/bio.
If I recall correctly, Knockdown Tests are taken with Body versus half the power (full power in melee). A minimum number of successes are needed to remain standing. For S damage, I think 3 successes are required...
Body Test = 5, 5, 4, 2, 2, 2
My only unknown is whether or not the power the victim resists is the weapon's base power, or the power after modifiers.
If prone, is it a simple action for a character to pick themselves back up?
Body Test = 5, 5, 4, 2, 2, 2
My only unknown is whether or not the power the victim resists is the weapon's base power, or the power after modifiers.
If prone, is it a simple action for a character to pick themselves back up?
SR13- Simple action to stand up. I'm not sure about the power question, I looked it up but saw nothing conclusive, and asked Grendel to look into it.
Factor in power increases due to burst, full-auto, and specialty ammo before halving for knockdown. Knockdown will be against a 6 with 4 successes necessary to remain standing. Wound modifiers do not apply to this test.
All right, no successes then. SR13 it looks like Tenmou's down on the ground, you need a simple action with a Willpower (2) test modified by injury modifiers to stand.
Thanks Grendel.
Your action SR13.
Shadow- Hope I'm not stepping on your toes helping with the rules in your absence.
Thanks Grendel.
Your action SR13.
Shadow- Hope I'm not stepping on your toes helping with the rules in your absence.
Down on the ground could be a good thing just now ... could mean the rest of the bullets go flying over your head
Hey, Shadow, feel better? and get back soon? A goon and a goy are getting real impatient to be taking their turns! It's been a miserable week all around, but it's just not the same without you
(Hmm ... that didn't come out quite the way it sounded in my head
)
Hey, Shadow, feel better? and get back soon? A goon and a goy are getting real impatient to be taking their turns! It's been a miserable week all around, but it's just not the same without you
(Hmm ... that didn't come out quite the way it sounded in my head
)
Alright...
Willpower test (TN = 5) - 10, 4, 3, 3, 2
Tenmou will pick himself up and, if able, will try to disarm the guy who shot him (Tenmou has no weapons, since he really didn't want to provoke anyone...).
If I can't engage the shooter, he will find cover and check the level of injury he has taken.
Willpower test (TN = 5) - 10, 4, 3, 3, 2
Tenmou will pick himself up and, if able, will try to disarm the guy who shot him (Tenmou has no weapons, since he really didn't want to provoke anyone...).
If I can't engage the shooter, he will find cover and check the level of injury he has taken.
Sorry for my absence guys, thanks to all the GMs who stepped in and made rulings and kept things going, well done.
SR13, you can easily run over and engage the guy, no problem. Give me some hand to hand rolls.
I am catching up now so forgive me if I missed something.
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SR13, you can easily run over and engage the guy, no problem. Give me some hand to hand rolls.
I am catching up now so forgive me if I missed something.
Karate Roll (no combat pool) = 17, 9, 3, 3, 2
If I can disarm him, good. If I can come up with his weapon, even better.
If I can disarm him, good. If I can come up with his weapon, even better.
hehehehe . . . and then you would have the wacked-out burst fire Predator. Seeing unique weapons like that put into play reminds me of how fun it can be to play a street-sam.
"Say hello to my little friend . . ."
OK, I am done hijacking now . . . I just needed a mental break from work and happened to check LiTS.
"Say hello to my little friend . . ."
OK, I am done hijacking now . . . I just needed a mental break from work and happened to check LiTS.
[ Spoiler ]
[ Spoiler ]
Ok Goon B has a Ares Predator firing BAL ammo.
First shot 9S (3 successes)
Second Shot 9S (2 successes)
Vinnie
Vinie is using Defiance shotgun it is loaded with Flechette
First (and only) shot 12S (2 successes) against double impact.
Couple questions
1. Am I dealing with Vinnie's shot as well or just Goon B?
2. And if I am dealing with Vinnie, what happens if my double impact is greater than his power? Will his shots just bounce off?
3. What is BAL ammo and where is the reference? I can't find it in Cannon Companion or SR3.
1. Am I dealing with Vinnie's shot as well or just Goon B?
2. And if I am dealing with Vinnie, what happens if my double impact is greater than his power? Will his shots just bounce off?
3. What is BAL ammo and where is the reference? I can't find it in Cannon Companion or SR3.
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| 1. Am I dealing with Vinnie's shot as well or just Goon B? |
Sorry, I thought I made that clear in the IC. You are only being hit by a Pred.
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| 2. And if I am dealing with Vinnie, what happens if my double impact is greater than his power? Will his shots just bounce off? |
You can't reduce a TN below 2, so if you were (which your not) then your tn would be 2S.
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| 3. What is BAL ammo and where is the reference? I can't find it in Cannon Companion or SR3. |
Sorry again
BAL ammo is short for Ballistic (its a Army thing I keep forgetting to not use) its the same as regular ammo.
One more question Shadow-
1. Is Goon B firing his Ares Predator on BF, or just SA?
From the description 9S with 3 successes, I'm reading it as being a basic Ares Predator (9M), that was staged up to 9S because of the successes, NOT from BF or any other intrinsic quality that raised the damage level to S, correct? That's a two success difference I would need to stage to nothing, so it matters a lot as far as combat pool allocation.
In other words, it's basically 9M with 3 successes to stage up, NOT 9S with 3 successes to stage up, correct?
1. Is Goon B firing his Ares Predator on BF, or just SA?
From the description 9S with 3 successes, I'm reading it as being a basic Ares Predator (9M), that was staged up to 9S because of the successes, NOT from BF or any other intrinsic quality that raised the damage level to S, correct? That's a two success difference I would need to stage to nothing, so it matters a lot as far as combat pool allocation.
In other words, it's basically 9M with 3 successes to stage up, NOT 9S with 3 successes to stage up, correct?
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